Is this really the content we were promised?

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Originally Posted by jnt

I feel like they took their business model from 38 studios.

I wonder how much of the 80 million went to salary. Considering how much they cribbed from borderlands and the absolute lack of content and replayability, I have a seriously hard time believing they spent the money on actual game development.

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Well at the source for the budget is there. It's not our right to know how much of it actual went to game development or salary. However, its safe to say that 80 mill is far more than other games have to work with, and the product we are seeing currently is rather a disappointing result from such a high figure.

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Originally Posted by exxcess

Well at the source for the budget is there. It's not our right to know how much of it actual went to game development or salary. However, its safe to say that 80 mill is far more than other games have to work with, and the product we are seeing currently is rather a disappointing result from such a high figure.

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IGN might have accidentally given an appropriate review if only graded on gratuitously wasted potential.

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Originally Posted by Vinotaur0

Co-op.....No challenge here, all pursuits done in the first run without even knowing what the pursuits actually were

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Really? You just accidentally ran into all those data recorders on the first try, huh? Just got lucky and killed the boss in a couple of minutes right?

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Originally Posted by Vinotaur0

Side missions...some of the worst missions ever to grace video games with weak rewards

Pursuits... OMG ACHIEVEMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really poor excuse for content

Co-op.....No challenge here, all pursuits done in the first run without even knowing what the pursuits actually were

PvP....Sure, let me equip TWO shotguns and cloak and show you how PvP is done!!!!

Oh wait...WEEKLY EPISODE MISSIONS! This is a great idea....except this week doesn't have missions and the newest thing we got was NEW DATA RECORDERS OMG CONTENT LOL and a couple of pursuits.

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The side missions truly are mind numbingly horrible.

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Originally Posted by RegularX

Really? You just accidentally ran into all those data recorders on the first try, huh? Just got lucky and killed the boss in a couple of minutes right?

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I got 1-2 data recorders the first time I did each co op mission. If you pay attention in say, Scrapworks, you see a cave, go in and find a recorder. It's not a leap of imagination.

Timed bosses? Are you kidding me? If the whole group shoots at the weak spot, the boss dies in plenty of time.
That is the sum total of required skill in Defiance.

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Originally Posted by Booshy

The side missions truly are mind numbingly horrible.

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An awful lot of them can be done by kiting mobs away with vehicle, driving back, interacting with objective, and then driving away before mobs get back.

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Originally Posted by chaosorb

Here you go:

The Forbes one is an interesting read:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffberc...nd-videogames/

And another one for more reading pleasure:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/224600...5673073402239/

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Well frack me, WoW had only a $60m budget and the game was a far greater success in every way. Even if Trion spent $20m on cross platform compatability that still doesnt explain the pitiful excuse for content they have in Defiance right now.

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Originally Posted by RegularX

Really? You just accidentally ran into all those data recorders on the first try, huh? Just got lucky and killed the boss in a couple of minutes right?

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Yep. When your entire group is running around in a pack in an unconventional spot on the map...they're leading to somewhere. The boss kills were easy too by the way.

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Originally Posted by Anim

Well frack me, WoW had only a $60m budget and the game was a far greater success in every way. Even if Trion spent $20m on cross platform compatability that still doesnt explain the pitiful excuse for content they have in Defiance right now.

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Dollars to donuts the DLC is all stuff developed as the rest of the game and then cut up to make DLC.

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Originally Posted by jnt

I got 1-2 data recorders the first time I did each co op mission. If you pay attention in say, Scrapworks, you see a cave, go in and find a recorder. It's not a leap of imagination.

Timed bosses? Are you kidding me? If the whole group shoots at the weak spot, the boss dies in plenty of time.
That is the sum total of required skill in Defiance.

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It's not a leap, no - but he's claiming he got all three without even knowing they existed. In Soleptor, for instance, it's easy to run past at least two of them. And boss killing is a group effort, exactly, which is why you may or may not hit it the "first time".

Claiming to get all the pursuits in every coop on the first try without even trying is a ridiculous statement.

And if you're only playing PVP/Coop for the pursuits - you're doing it wrong.