Remove EGO powers from PVP

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Originally Posted by Warkaiser

I agree. They should also remove any and all skills / spells from other MMOs and have everyone fight purely with auto attacks. Trion should also remove all weapons in the game and just give everyone the same standardized paintball gun. I dont like dying, nobody should have to die ever ad its unfair that different weapons are useful for different situations, therefore they are all OP and should be removed. I mean come on. There is absolutely no way whatsoever to counter anything.

While they're at it. I would also like Trion to remove the need to aim. Simply clicking should automatically hit everyone on my screen and within a 100m radius around me. Its not fair that some people are better at aiming than me. Having good aim and the ability to hit moving targets better than me is OP. They should remove it.

I also dont like having to move, or the fact that terrain / cover exists. Some people are better at moving behind cover and avoid being spotted / shot and taking out others from behind cover. Maps should be made up of everyone being inside a small room and we should all be legless. That way nobody can move / dodge or use anything for cover and people who are better at those things will have no advantage over those who arent.

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Seems alright to me...How about everybody gets a flint-lock rifle with ungodly bloom/acc, they all stand in a single rank line and FIRE!

+1 supporting now power in pvp. Keep the perks for some "build" variation but none of the big 4 powers.

With some mini nuke auto lock insta kill master blaster :D but with out powers

So using stealth and sawn-offs is bad form, I take it?

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Originally Posted by Warlander

I tried to defend it, but pvp just doesnt work (although shadow war isnt as bad as 6v6)

But thats the only way to really fix pvp.

The whole cloak / shotgun thing is ridiculous and nerfing sawed off shotguns didnt do anything but piss off pve'rs that already knew it sucked.
The only way i can see to fix it is just remove the powers, keep the perks obviously, but that would fix it.

lore wise call it ego interference or something i dont care, but seems like the only people enjoying pvp are the cloakers.

Well let the flames come.

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Thats identically what I suggested in a thread I started over a week ago called "CLOAK AND SHOTGUNS" and I got my head chewed off. I had 3main bullet points and that was the second one I beleive. Remove the powers and all direct effect perks. And leave the other perks. They didnt agree with me all so much. Good luck with that though.

I am all for balance but of course people are not going to agree to remove a key component of their character from the game. I will admit I have not done much pvp yet but from my understanding it is 1) the envirnment (close quarters = shotty good!) and 2) the simple fact that some things are just better than others (can't see me...you dead!). Really any game that is skill based (you have to aim) and includes firearms is going to have a fast paced, easy death pvp. It is part of its overall design.

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Originally Posted by Warkaiser

I agree. They should also remove any and all skills / spells from other MMOs and have everyone fight purely with auto attacks. Trion should also remove all weapons in the game and just give everyone the same standardized paintball gun. I dont like dying, nobody should have to die ever ad its unfair that different weapons are useful for different situations, therefore they are all OP and should be removed. I mean come on. There is absolutely no way whatsoever to counter anything.

While they're at it. I would also like Trion to remove the need to aim. Simply clicking should automatically hit everyone on my screen and within a 100m radius around me. Its not fair that some people are better at aiming than me. Having good aim and the ability to hit moving targets better than me is OP. They should remove it.

I also dont like having to move, or the fact that terrain / cover exists. Some people are better at moving behind cover and avoid being spotted / shot and taking out others from behind cover. Maps should be made up of everyone being inside a small room and we should all be legless. That way nobody can move / dodge or use anything for cover and people who are better at those things will have no advantage over those who arent.

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no need to be a knobgobbler about it =/

The most prudent choice would be to have a powerless pvp variant that just used your perks. I don't mind pvp with powers, but cloak and blur pretty much trump everything else

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Originally Posted by Lockheart

The most prudent choice would be to have a powerless pvp variant that just used your perks. I don't mind pvp with powers, but cloak and blur pretty much trump everything else

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Thats a good idea, sorta like Legends mode in DC.

What really bugs me about all the post like this is that there are perks that detect cloaked players but no-one can ever be bothered to use them because they want to play with overpower... well at the end of the day it's your choice how you play just as it is others on how they play.

Don't whinge and moan and cry up a storm in a tea cup just because this isn't like all the other games out there, just because things are different, because you don't like it , and you aren't willing to use skills that are implemented in the game but you just cba to try them because. Yep decoy means you can teleport from one location to another and track cloaked enemies.. shtako like that is so useless...