This game would have been a success if they left out pvp

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Originally Posted by StanleyPain

I haven't even touched PvP, how is it ruining the game? It's not even part of the core game. If anything, putting PvP in an entirely separate mode away from the main game was a great idea as it leaves the competitive aspect in its own arena rather than messing up the dynamic of the main game, which primarily focuses on teamwork. If people want to focus on PvP, let them...that's what it's there for. Again, I'm not sure how that is ruining the rest of the game for everyone else.

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They seem to be balancing PvE weapons around PvP.

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Originally Posted by DC Zero

Trion nerfed a few weapons and all of of the pve'ers start saying that pvp is ruining pve. Trion obviously has the ability to make changes pve or pvp only if you look at the pistol changes. So they obviously felt the other weapons needed overall nerfs. I mean i have placed in the top 3 of an arkfall while using a canker and going afk for a bit. And what about the LMG nerfs? They definitely weren't nerfed for pvp reasons. Not many people even use them in pvp.

So everyone just needs to relax and just let Trion do what they feel is necessary. If your favorite weapon gets nerfed, instead of pointing fingers, just adapt and move on.

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You want to know how nerfing shotguns affected PvE. The end boss, I kited him around with a Clustershot Shotgun, was too easy, lol. All the people who complained about how hard he is. I saw posts with people doing it with the grenade launchers, the sticky ones and such. It's pretty cake walk doing it with those weapons. Try doing it with ARs, SMGs, Pistols, and LMGs. A ton harder. Snipers would be near impossible IMO.

False, they just need to stop treating them as the same thing when balancing.

1 set of stats for totally different game modes simply doesn't cut it. You end up having to balance based on one of them.

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Originally Posted by Facade

They seem to be balancing PvE weapons around PvP.

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No, read my post below yours. Those weapons made the final fight a joke. Also, dual barrel shotguns were OP in PvP with Cloak sure.

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Originally Posted by Technodude

Defiance's current issues got nothing to with PVP. Have you even played the game OP?

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yes i have played the game. and my favorite part of the game (pve-the open world) is being hindered because of the balance issues in pvp. read my post all the way through before you post stupid uneducated comments like this. just makes you look silly.

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Originally Posted by Jestunhi

False, they just need to stop treating them as the same thing when balancing.

1 set of stats for totally different game modes simply doesn't cut it. You end up having to balance based on one of them.

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so why did you say false and than basically quote exactly what i said in my original post?

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Originally Posted by Babbz

yes i have played the game. and my favorite part of the game (pve-the open world) is being hindered because of the balance issues in pvp. read my post all the way through before you post stupid uneducated comments like this. just makes you look silly.

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I read all of it or say i endured it. However i don't see how it has anything to do with me being un educated? i still disagree that balancing of PVE around PVP is what is causing this game to be a less of success.

Your OP is just pure hyperbole.

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Originally Posted by Babbz

yes i have played the game. and my favorite part of the game (pve-the open world) is being hindered because of the balance issues in pvp. read my post all the way through before you post stupid uneducated comments like this. just makes you look silly.

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You are still wrong.