How Can Anyone Hate On IGN's Review? It Cant Be Anymore Truthful...

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I duno what all the hate is on this review...I just watched it and the guy couldn't have said it any better.

Just because some of us disagree on the game doesnt make us Trolls, we just dont like the game. And everyone I talk to and know who have played this game ALL of them have said "what a waste of money." I swear I am not lying when I say this either guys/gals...

"Most boil down to the most derivative sort of fetching – find and activate three generators, locate three clues, kill 10 enemies... the stuff MMOs are frequently made fun of for."

"I didn’t hate the dozens of hours I spent shooting generic aliens and mutants in Defiance, but I know I’m not going back to it, either. Rather than the addictive, "Where did the day go?" sort of experience I had when I started out my adventures in World of Warcraft and Star Wars: The Old Republic, Defiance doesn’t do anything special enough to hook me, even for the short term."

" It doesn’t provide a good backstory about the world – that's seemingly left to the companion SyFy TV show"

"Defiance's substitute for the traditional leveling system, and though its numbers go into the thousands instead of capping at the usual 50 or 60, it bothered me that I never felt substantially more powerful as I progressed."

"Though don’t expect to easily do quests together, since there’s no good way to share them, and if you do a story mission while grouped it just cuts everyone else out and treats you like you’re playing solo."

The list can go on but every quote i have quoted above couldn't have been said any better...ITS TRUE! and you know it! This game really did have something going for it...But once you beat Nim, and all the side quests, have done 10+ Arkfalls/Shadow Wars/TDM/Domination/Co-Ops (if u manage to keep the motivation as you had in the beginning to continue) there really isnt ANYTHING FRESH to keep you going...

I will keep this game just because I have a feeling something good will happen in the next couple months. I will wait till the 1st DLC is released (wont be surprised if they push it back numerous times due to the game still being in BETA) and then see what that brings. (im sure it will bring more bugs and glitches). I am keeping hope alive for this game because I LOVED IT at first and never played a game as much in my life since WoW 1st came out 10 years ago.

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Thank you for your valuable contribution.

Though it's been contributed many times before. In a thread. About this review.

There is a few flaws within that review. The first being when he says " It doesn’t provide a good backstory about the world – that's seemingly left to the companion SyFy TV show" someone didn't listen to the audio logs you pick up around the world and secondly when he says "Though don’t expect to easily do quests together, since there’s no good way to share them, and if you do a story mission while grouped it just cuts everyone else out and treats you like you’re playing solo." you don't even need the side quest or main quest, if your in a party you will just phase with your group members and you can help them do the quest and you still get XP for completing it. You just won't get the quest XP and quest reward. The only time you can't get into a story mission is when your group member is in a Solo only mission. Every time I'm partied up with my friend and she does a main story mission, i can go and help her even though I've already completed main story and side quests.

IGN you suck at reviewing games properly. My god.

Do what I do these days & that is rent a game out from your local store.
If you like it then buy it............simple

The complaints about the back story are hilarious. Guess people don't know how to read the mission/side mission quest boxes or listen to the data recorders all over the place. There's plenty of back story. It's funny I saw on another forum someone whining about how the tv show has no back story.... and now there's complaints about the game? ha. With all the videos they released on this, if you don't get the back story at that point, you need to just quit the internet.

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Originally Posted by Joel

Do what I do these days & that is rent a game out from your local store.
If you like it then buy it............simple

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I wish I could have man, but Redbox is the only thing around here...blockbuster closed down and they dont have Defiance available in Redbox...its not Redbox worthy lmao

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

The complaints about the back story are hilarious. Guess people don't know how to read the mission/side mission quest boxes or listen to the data recorders all over the place. There's plenty of back story. It's funny I saw on another forum someone whining about how the tv show has no back story.... and now there's complaints about the game? ha. With all the videos they released on this, if you don't get the back story at that point, you need to just quit the internet.

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I know all about the back story...I read all the blogs and stuff on one of the websites from when they invaded in 2014 or whatever all the way through the 33 years...but it doesnt tell u that in the game. ur just thrown into a f'd up world...but like you and many others here are in denial about the games failure and its ok. Iam in denial just as bad as everyone else. #patsonback

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Originally Posted by CharmCitysKing

your just in denial my friend. its ok. #patsonback

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Yup I'm in denial for having issues they complain about which i didn't come across with the PS3 version. Ummm Is IGN coping and pasting again like they did with the Skyrim review. I wouldn't be surprised.

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Cant they just start to move these IGN threads to offtopic? Like whats the freaking point, opinions are like *******s, everony has one. Game survives without you or with you.

Don't you know IGN sells high review scores, Trion must not have payed them off.

Here you go http://www.lensoftruth.com/confirmed...egative-score/

next time you want to use IGN as a legit source for reviews just remember they can be bought. Do you really want to buy a game based on a review the company bought?

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Originally Posted by CharmCitysKing

One more thing. Dont troll my thread if you dont read my post. Dont post in my thread if you didnt read my post

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Actually completely agree with the review/post
When I first saw the game I was thinking it was gonna be an online Borderlands, even after about 10hrs of play I was hooked. But then something happened, I realized after 60~70hrs that nothing changed, sure little things like mobs were different but I was doing the same thing and getting board fast. Bug's don't bother me but stale gameplay does and thats one thing I don't see changing unless they implement some of the suggestions I've seen on the forums. I've got my money worth and heck I've played games far worse then this but if they expect me here playing this game in a few months they're gonna have to step their game up so to say.

One thing that really strike me in IGN review, he say the quest in defiance are more or less always go there, clic here, and kill stuff, but he say he loved SW:TOR and WoW, when all the quests in those game are basically the same. Or even worst, as in Defiance there is only 1 quest asking you to kill X creatures, in wow and Swtor, we are talking about hundreds, if not thousand, quest asking you to do just that.
When reading his review, I felt like he was expecting a lot from Defiance, but it didn't lived up to its expectation, and he didn't felt in love with it.

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Originally Posted by Erei

One thing that really strike me in IGN review, he say the quest in defiance are more or less always go there, clic here, and kill stuff, but he say he loved SW:TOR and WoW, when all the quests in those game are basically the same. Or even worst, as in Defiance there is only 1 quest asking you to kill X creatures, in wow and Swtor, we are talking about hundreds, if not thousand, quest asking you to do just that.
When reading his review, I felt like he was expecting a lot from Defiance, but it didn't lived up to its expectation, and he didn't felt in love with it.

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All quest in every MMO ever made are the same types of quest, go here, collect that, kill these... It's the bread and butter of the MMO genre.

I don't bother with ign reviews as they give COD which hasn't changed a bit since MW1 reviews of how dynamic and new it is and give crap reviews to original games

OP, if you don't like a game then kindly leave. You don't need to make multiple posts trying to 'prove' the game is bad; you're just highlighting your own inability to be secure in your opinion.

One of the reason that people hates IGN so much, is that they several times have taken money form developers to give a good review.

Yeah but they should review it a month or so after game release. Everybody know that mmo launches its not perfect. There are bugs that need fix and issues that need to be looked at.

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Originally Posted by MrViewtiful

Yeah but they should review it a month or so after game release. Everybody know that mmo launches its not perfect. There are bugs that need fix and issues that need to be looked at.

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Every other MMO gets reviewed early on, why should Defiance get special treatment?

The review is very accurate and them saying playing DC Online over this made me laugh as DC Online is actually far more interesting and has better content, character customization and has PvP that works, co-ops(instances) that are more interesting and they have end game as well and is FREE 2 PLAY!!!

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Originally Posted by Doowi

The review is very accurate and them saying playing DC Online over this made me laugh as DC Online is actually far more interesting and has better content, character customization and has PvP that works, co-ops(instances) that are more interesting and they have end game as well and is FREE 2 PLAY!!!

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IIRC DCUO went from full servers to ZERO in the first month and after at least 6 months of patches and bug fixing went back to some sort of activity.

What I am saying is, DCUO at launch was way worse than this and it survived and improved.

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Originally Posted by CharmCitysKing

there really isnt ANYTHING FRESH to keep you going...

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You must be new to MMOs ...

LOL same Ign that did
Bayonetta 8.2
DMC 8.9
MGR 8.5

That are telling people to play dcuo when the game has been watered down by the devs

IGN is the same site that rated D3 9.5/10 right? Hmmm...

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Originally Posted by CharmCitysKing

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(...) wont be surprised if they push [DLC] back numerous times due to the game still being in BETA

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I don't understand. If you want to be taken seriously, why would you say something like that? Obviously the game is not in beta.

I don't disagree with the review, but at the same time i feel it could of been a bit more in depth.

I Agree the game feels like a solo game - there is any lack of Social network needed.
Example: Why do i need other players in this game? Everything is RNG (randomly number Generated) i'm lucky if i get a new decent weapon - if I'm unlucky its unlikely i'm going to get it from anyone, as there isn't a Market, Social Area, but at the same time, the in game currency is useless anyway, and i don't feel like i "NEED" anything in game as my power doesn't come from my items.

Now while this is all bad things, there is also the good thing of "i don't need to grind for hours to get something good"
but then what else is there left?

Ark falls - they are just a grind you don't really get anything from them either.
Road Side missions -they are just a grind you don't really get anything from them either.
Lock Box - they are just a grind you don't really get anything from them either.
Rep Rewards - they are just a grind you don't really get anything from them either.

Overall the game has alot of grind in it, but very little actual rewards.

The UI is terrible at best. it reminds me if Skyrim which i ended up modding with SKY UI just to get something PC related.


That being said, Diablo 3 was in the same boat just in an different way.

Diablo 3 - Items meant everything, grind for hours to get something good, without the something good you felt underwhelming.
defiance - Items mean nothing, grind for hours to get something good, but there never really isn't anything good to get anyway. so your always left feeling underwhelmed.

Diablo 3 is currently reworking its entire system and has made items better, more unique and has more value to getting them.

Maybe somewhere down the line Defiance might see the same rework?

The reason i compare Diablo 3 to Defiance is because they we're both effectively released in the same fashion. with the same problems, the only REAL difference is one has a Market for items. which would help the social aspect of Defiance but.... with no crafting, no need for items, i don't see what would go in the market. you need NOTHING in the game.

Still, i stopped playing Defiance for a bit, until i watched the show, the Show inspired me to play the game again, it made me want to "play a part" (use them imaginations :P) i think without the show though, the game doesn't offer anything, other then the "Grind to get Ego. because everything else changes nothing in your game"

I think there's a fundamental problem with the expectations readers have from gaming journalism and the industry/relationship that has developed between publishers/developers and reviewers. The primary issue is that reviewers feel compelled to provide a numerical score on a scale that is assumed to be universal for all games across all genres. However, we all know that there are different expectations for different games and that different factors are given more or less weight depending on those expectations. As a genre, MMOs are expected to have some level of repetitive gameplay which is made meaningful in the context of a persistent community. Getting to a high level, accomplishing major tasks, obtaining your epic weapon are forms of prestige which are recognized as a worthy investment because of the presence of a community.

Does Defiance live up to other MMOs in terms of these features? Probably not. But did it deserve a score like 5.9? Probably not. Everyone has their own standards in terms of what the numerical score means, but given that the vast majority of games that are given somewhere between a 70-80, some with perhaps even more issues than Defiance, a score in the 50s is somewhat of an insult. Unfortunately, there's subtext in every score, which is why people get upset when they see a game they enjoy being rated so poorly.

Trion made a deliberate decision to focus on accessible gameplay - something you can "jump right into". They've succeeded at that, but they (unnecessarily) sacrificed depth. Notice the features people are asking for in the Q&As - they want features that addresses the shallow mechanics of the game. Many people agree that the game is simply fun, which is fantastic because that is the foundation of the game. However (and this holds particularly true in an MMO setting), people want to feel like they are investing their efforts into something worthwhile - hence, the importance of progression. There is an important distinction between "game" and "mini-game", whereupon we recognize that "mini-games" are mindless, shallow activities we do purely to enjoy the activity of the game itself. The actual "game", however, should offer some sense of satisfaction and accomplishment beyond the mechanics itself (many developers offer this through story progression, character progression, community recognition [ranking]). Defiance, as of this moment, feels a lot like a huge mini-game. The gameplay is fun, but feels meaningless. This problem can be remedied by the addition of more features, which is why much of the community feels optimistic towards the future of the game. In contrast, bad core gameplay mechanics cannot be fixed by adding more stuff.

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Originally Posted by Haigs

IGN is the same site that rated D3 9.5/10 right? Hmmm...

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aOc 90
war 85

Just saying

Your =/= You're.

I've always trusted IGN for my game reviews before I buy, as this was the first game I bought for full price since CoD 1...

I was majorly disappointed.
I would NOT recommend this game in its current state.

IGNorant

'nuff said.

IGN reviews are pointless dribble they seen to flip a coin when rating games only good going there to have a laugh about what they say about games and then read there re-reviews a year+ later and if they didnt like it before and the game was popular they have a complete change of heart

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Originally Posted by CharmCitysKing

I know all about the back story...I read all the blogs and stuff on one of the websites from when they invaded in 2014 or whatever all the way through the 33 years...

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I did not know this..... srsly i didn't lol if it isn't in the game i would have never found this out i shouldn't have to read a dam blog to get some back story..

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Originally Posted by Haigs

IGN is the same site that rated D3 9.5/10 right? Hmmm...

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This ^^^ should be the biggest clue. It was the same guy that reviewed that as well. Funny that he still has a job. Only thing that matters is I like the game and will continue to play. I'm so sick of playing carbon copies of other games every time I play a new game.
Oh, and OP is lonely and needs attention. I'm worried about him. I think maybe it's a call for help.

To put it simply he made 2 big mistakes:

1) Reviewed it as an RPG, expecting RPG features (like lots of character progression and getting way stronger), when its not an RPG. He claims in his review to know it is a shooter... yet complains it doesnt have vertical progression, which NO shooter does. Does he also review CoD, Halo, BF, etc and then complain he cant progress like he does in WoW?

2) Appears to have not even played all 3 versions, yet copied... sorry "wrote" the review for all 3 versions, then discredited 2 of the versions for having bugs which he admittedly has no idea if they even exist or not, as he never encountered them himself and just "what the hell. 1 version has this bug. Im just going to pretend all 3 do even though I have absolutely no evidence of it and did not even mention said bug anywhere in the review of the version i had the bug in""

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Originally Posted by RoG Goat

I've always trusted IGN for my game reviews before I buy, as this was the first game I bought for full price since CoD 1...

I was majorly disappointed.
I would NOT recommend this game in its current state.

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I'm sorry but if you've always trusted IGN for your reviews....ugh I had other things I could say but I'm speechless.

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Originally Posted by Barrik

This ^^^ should be the biggest clue. It was the same guy that reviewed that as well. Funny that he still has a job. Only thing that matters is I like the game and will continue to play. I'm so sick of playing carbon copies of other games every time I play a new game.
Oh, and OP is lonely and needs attention. I'm worried about him. I think maybe it's a call for help.

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IGN liked Rift and it's expansion. The Defiance review is well thought out and the reviewer streamed a lot of his playtime.

There are no excuses for this one sorry. Review is spot on.