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  • 04-19-2013, 05:00 AM
    M00N
    So anyone else ENJOYING the game?
    Im loving each minute of it!

    Why?

    Becouse this MMO is like ALL other MMO releases out there! We/you/anyone cant compare a newly released game to a game that has been running 2+ years really.

    And compared to other older MMOs and their release days (weeks) Its kinda smooth, sure a few pursuits are bugging out! But really that isnt gamebreaking at all. Sure its not one of the smoothest launches but its FAR from the worst.

    All the quest buggs some people are having an issue with i have had no problem at all. Did all the sidequests all the zone pursuits exept marin becouse of Dam Defence and The Crater recording (all fixed now and completed).

    The only thing I have been having trouble/problems with is the Killcount in some pursuits (pvp and arkfall) But as theres an "workaround" for that im soon done with those to.

    Anyway loving the game loving the THEME and setting of the game! Love shooting things up!

    Also everyone complaining that theres not enough content! ITS THE SAME IN ALL MMOs! Once you have maxed lvl in other mmos same complaints comes..... Theres no story... theres no endgame.... The pvp is unbalanced.... its the same in all mmo's ONCE you have learned that! then its when you can start enjoying the THEME and SETTING YOU LIKE!

    Its truly as simple as that, everyone CANT like the same theme, the same atmosphere or the same setting!


    Ps. PvP will not ever ever ever be balanced! just watch the FOTM in WOW? changes each day/week/month lol
  • 04-19-2013, 05:02 AM
    Fatalmephisto
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M00N View Post
    Im loving each minute of it!

    Why?

    Becouse this MMO is like ALL other MMO releases out there! We/you/anyone cant compare a newly released game to a game that has been running 2+ years really.

    And compared to other older MMOs and their release days (weeks) Its kinda smooth, sure a few pursuits are bugging out! But really that isnt gamebreaking at all. Sure its not one of the smoothest launches but its FAR from the worst.

    All the quest buggs some people are having an issue with i have had no problem at all. Did all the sidequests all the zone pursuits exept marin becouse of Dam Defence and The Crater recording (all fixed now and completed).

    The only thing I have been having trouble/problems with is the Killcount in some pursuits (pvp and arkfall) But as theres an "workaround" for that im soon done with those to.

    Anyway loving the game loving the THEME and setting of the game! Love shooting things up!

    Also everyone complaining that theres not enough content! ITS THE SAME IN ALL MMOs! Once you have maxed lvl in other mmos same complaints comes..... Theres no story... theres no endgame.... The pvp is unbalanced.... its the same in all mmo's ONCE you have learned that! then its when you can start enjoying the THEME and SETTING YOU LIKE!

    Its truly as simple as that, everyone CANT like the same theme, the same atmosphere or the same setting!


    Ps. PvP will not ever ever ever be balanced! just watch the FOTM in WOW? changes each day/week/month lol

    Actually PvP can be balanced since its just guns we use to kill each other. An MMO like wow is harder due to so many damn skills that have to be nerfed or tweaked.

    Oh to answer your question. I'm obsessed with this game.
  • 04-19-2013, 05:03 AM
    M00N
    ooh want to add the only MMO i ever heard of was "balanced" never played it myself tho, was Shadowbane!

    But lets face it AoC, WAR, MXO, CO, WoW, Aion, TERA list goes on was never ever balanced in the PVP aspect!
  • 04-19-2013, 05:04 AM
    Brillcs
    Myself and two friends are playing and thoroughly enjoying it. Yes it has it's problems but all MMO's do upon release. Been a good time so far even with said problems.
  • 04-19-2013, 05:04 AM
    duction
    I'm also addicted!
  • 04-19-2013, 05:05 AM
    SieraV
    I'm enjoying every minute of it.

    But I'm a casual gamer so I haven't finished the story and from what I'm hearing.
    I'm gonna take my sweet time.
  • 04-19-2013, 05:10 AM
    Anim
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M00N View Post
    Also everyone complaining that theres not enough content! ITS THE SAME IN ALL MMOs! Once you have maxed lvl in other mmos same complaints comes..... Theres no story... theres no endgame....

    A lot of mmo's out there prove this to be entirely wrong. Defiance was fun though, I just find myself logged in standing around talking to people now.
  • 04-19-2013, 05:12 AM
    Mivo
    I enjoy the game, though there are aspects that increasingly annoy me, but I really disagree with using other games' shortcomings or issues to justify the release of an unpolished game with numerous bugs that had been reported during beta already. Companies need to start being held to higher standards, and not always get absolved only because game X or Y also had problems.

    Yes, WoW was not fantastic when it came out, but that was in 2004, and it did have banks, auction house and an actual loot system instead of a lottery. Blizzard got away with the lack of polish at the time, but we now have 2013 and players have, or should have, higher expectations than getting a beta version at the full price. This does not fly in any other industry, not even in the non-gaming software field, but when it comes to video games, people happily accept that they get a green banana.

    Like I said, I mostly have fun with Defiance, but by more objective standards it is currently an unpolished and mediocre game that gets exactly the reviews that it presently deserves. Perhaps someone will learn from that.
  • 04-19-2013, 05:16 AM
    Alechiel
    Taking my time, doing the story quests.
    I'm trying to progress on the zone poursuits and the dungeon ones as well.
    Doing all the secondary quests as well takes agggggeeees.
    It doesn't feel like a grind, yet, but I love grinds anyway.
  • 04-19-2013, 05:20 AM
    Erei
    I enjoy it.
    A sci fi mmo and shooter mmo, that's new, and cool. I waited for it for a long time. FE is cool, but it have so many damn skill I don't really feel like playing a shooter sometimes, and the craft system is too much mandatory to play.
  • 04-19-2013, 05:29 AM
    Aikuchi
    Me! here! Am having fun!

    Love the setting, love the shootermechanic, love the absence of "You got not the right items equiped! off you go!*kick*". No real need to level, just shooting things up and if I m set for it, in a group on a co-op.
    Graphik is doing fine, considering the nature of an MMO.
    Might have real potential to be differnt from skill/item grind...in time when the quircks got ironed out.
  • 04-19-2013, 05:29 AM
    M00N
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Anim View Post
    A lot of mmo's out there prove this to be entirely wrong. Defiance was fun though, I just find myself logged in standing around talking to people now.

    Say one? have never meet a MMO that havent had launch issues, buggs or when you reach max lvl theres nothing to do exept grinding or repeating the same things. I have played most MMOs since after Acheron's Call 2 (my first)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mivo View Post
    I enjoy the game, though there are aspects that increasingly annoy me, but I really disagree with using other games' shortcomings or issues to justify the release of an unpolished game with numerous bugs that had been reported during beta already. Companies need to start being held to higher standards, and not always get absolved only because game X or Y also had problems.

    I agree with you, but since WOWs success and all the other companies tagging along for the ride, that hasent happened and probably wont as they see fast money if they can pull it off. But as i said i agree they should have higher standards, should make a better game than the other companies that have tried! But since 2004 and WOW none have done it, but i also said some have done it with greater success while others have just put out a really really bad product!

    But i dont think Defiance is on the low scale of things, their somewere in the middle (bugg wise and technical issues). Other than that its a great game, and got the same issue as everyone else, once you have "completed" witch is a relative term, you do the same in all MMO's. Grind rep, grind for items, do group content, do pvp and RINCE REPEAT. :)
  • 04-19-2013, 05:30 AM
    Jomina
    Well I am sitting with 118 hours played and still thoroughly enjoying the crap out of it. haven't even finished the main mission line yet.

    And people complain about lack of content lol
  • 04-19-2013, 05:41 AM
    M00N
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jomina View Post
    Well I am sitting with 118 hours played and still thoroughly enjoying the crap out of it. haven't even finished the main mission line yet.

    And people complain about lack of content lol

    Nice! I myself is at 7 days played sitting at 2260 EGO, just now im starting to get close to completing all the Pursuits (exept the pvp ones, i do pvp but one map is out and kill count keeps resetting). I have done all missions, doing the contracts, helping others, running around trying to find the white challenger and the white and black bungy!

    Cant wait and see were the game takes me, how they will do the weekly content, last once was nice with extra lore. Would like to see the next more like the first with some ingame scenes and story.

    Also how they handle the free content and how much of that we gona get, also what the 5 DLCs will be and how they handle that! "Heard"/read rummors on the forums but its just that so far.. rumors :(

    If theres something I AM annoyed with, its the prices on the costumes in BITS Shop.... 300ish for helmet and 500ish for costume would be more realistic :)
  • 04-19-2013, 05:47 AM
    Anim
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M00N View Post
    Say one? have never meet a MMO that havent had launch issues, buggs or when you reach max lvl theres nothing to do exept grinding or repeating the same things. I have played most MMOs since after Acheron's Call 2 (my first)

    I never said theres an mmo without bugs and other issues at launch, I said other games had plenty to do at 'end game'. I'll fall back to the old classic of WoW, when you go to max level there was still a whole load of things to do, new instances opened up to you, new challenges and a host of quests and zones to do. It took people months to complete because it was difficult, it required teamwork and they carried on with it because it was fun. Theres nothing in Defiance that gives you the same sense of accomplishment, to keep trying and failing at something until you finally get it just right and beat it.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M00N View Post
    Other than that its a great game, and got the same issue as everyone else, once you have "completed" witch is a relative term, you do the same in all MMO's. Grind rep, grind for items, do group content, do pvp and RINCE REPEAT. :)

    The difference is, those games gave you a reason to do them. You can only do something 'just for fun' so many times before you'll get bored of it unless its really a perfected game.
  • 04-19-2013, 05:48 AM
    SHaDoWeD_SiN
    I was when it first came out, and now that I'm done with missions and sidequests and my clan isn't online, yeah, that's pretty much killed it for me. I honestly can't be bothered to such miniscule things such as: Collecting all audio logs, doing pursuits or contracts and doing Arkfalls (I did a lot of them all ready, so meh). I'm sorry, but for me it wasn't enough to keep me going. I want to hang on to the game, but with the uncertainty of DLC release dates, I might off it to the business before depreciation hits this game hard.

    I will admit though: Trion's communication with the community and their non-stop hardwork has really made me appreciate them as a developer, but the game... yeah. >_<
  • 04-19-2013, 05:50 AM
    Justin CarMichael
    Quote:

    Becouse this MMO is like ALL other MMO releases out there! We/you/anyone cant compare a newly released game to a game that has been running 2+ years really.
    Actually it's fair to compare any new MMO to what's already out there. See the thing is, right now at this moment an MMO that has been out for two years isn't competing with Defiance as it was 2 years ago for my money.

    I have the option to...

    Play Defiance AS IT IS NOW.....

    or

    Play X Other MMO AS IT IS NOW....

    This is true with all new MMOs/games/whatever...
  • 04-19-2013, 05:52 AM
    Alechiel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SHaDoWeD_SiN View Post
    I was when it first came out, and now that I'm done with missions and sidequests and my clan isn't online, yeah, that's pretty much killed it for me. I honestly can't be bothered to such miniscule things such as: Collecting all audio logs, doing pursuits or contracts and doing Arkfalls (I did a lot of them all ready, so meh). I'm sorry, but for me it wasn't enough to keep me going. I want to hang on to the game, but with the uncertainty of DLC release dates, I might off it to the business before depreciation hits this game hard.

    I will admit though: Trion's communication with the community and their non-stop hardwork has really made me appreciate them as a developer, but the game... yeah. >_<

    Doing poursuits grants you the Ego rating you can't get otherwise, you should work on it. That's if you ever want to reach 5K Ego rating and use the full skills slots.
  • 04-19-2013, 06:10 AM
    M00N
    Sure good points, the range is wider now adays with MMO genres. But at some point you do get to the same point/conclusion in a MMO, that is that things start repeating themselves. New content it was should give the players a mean to keep going, feel like they have more to do and the game isnt "over" yet.

    But no game gives free content or DLCs or expansion so fast that it keeps rolling out with new stuff each week, sure there are companies Trion included that gives monthly stuff. And as Trion owns this IP we should be seeing that stuff here to, specially when they have said over a 3-9 month period we are going to have FIVE (5) DLCs made available to us. But after 3 weeks of gaming people are complaining on the lack of content that no other mmo actually have in system doing that is what i feel hurts the game more than it helps the game.

    Over those 5 free content we are also going to have free content and upgrades as MMOs are given as they are work in progress, i for one would like for Defiance to make it, as it is damn cool to have a MMO world running besides a TV Show in a SCI-FI setting.

    But anyways i wanted a positive thread instead of a rage post, whine post and i gona quit post! Becouse the people at trion is all humans and needs to feel appriciated like the rest of us! And while theres a few players that truly seem to dispise the game or even loath it after 2-3 weeks theres MANY that love it, like it and wants it to succed. And those people usualy arent the one hanging on the forum looking for posts all over to say they love it :) but this is one of those post! :)
  • 04-19-2013, 06:14 AM
    Anim
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M00N View Post
    But at some point you do get to the same point/conclusion in a MMO, that is that things start repeating themselves. New content it was should give the players a mean to keep going, feel like they have more to do and the game isnt "over" yet.

    Other games made the repetition fun though, gave people a good reason to do it, a reward for the grind that is more than just looking slightly different.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M00N View Post
    . And as Trion owns this IP we should be seeing that stuff here to, specially when they have said over a 3-9 month period we are going to have FIVE (5) DLCs made available to us.

    Unfortunately in their latest Q&A they're already pushed the time scale back to 'before season 2' and there is no set start date for season 2 yet, we could be looking up to 18 months.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M00N View Post
    But anyways i wanted a positive thread instead of a rage post, whine post and i gona quit post!

    There are a lot of whine threads and suprisingly few 'i quit' threads but this thread was just a bit too basic imo, people could just answer yes or no and be done with it. Need more threads with some real content in them, just like the game needs ;)
  • 04-19-2013, 06:18 AM
    Justin CarMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M00N View Post

    But no game gives free content or DLCs or expansion so fast that it keeps rolling out with new stuff each week, sure there are companies Trion included that gives monthly stuff. And as Trion owns this IP we should be seeing that stuff here to, specially when they have said over a 3-9 month period we are going to have FIVE (5) DLCs made available to us. But after 3 weeks of gaming people are complaining on the lack of content that no other mmo actually have in system doing that is what i feel hurts the game more than it helps the game.

    It's hard to give Trion credit now for them considering they are charging us for those DLC's.
  • 04-19-2013, 06:37 AM
    M00N
    Well they have said that theres gona be free content also ontop of the DLCs :D
  • 04-19-2013, 06:39 AM
    Wolfrik
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M00N View Post
    Im loving each minute of it!

    Why?

    Becouse this MMO is like ALL other MMO releases out there! We/you/anyone cant compare a newly released game to a game that has been running 2+ years really.

    And compared to other older MMOs and their release days (weeks) Its kinda smooth, sure a few pursuits are bugging out! But really that isnt gamebreaking at all. Sure its not one of the smoothest launches but its FAR from the worst.

    All the quest buggs some people are having an issue with i have had no problem at all. Did all the sidequests all the zone pursuits exept marin becouse of Dam Defence and The Crater recording (all fixed now and completed).

    The only thing I have been having trouble/problems with is the Killcount in some pursuits (pvp and arkfall) But as theres an "workaround" for that im soon done with those to.

    Anyway loving the game loving the THEME and setting of the game! Love shooting things up!

    Also everyone complaining that theres not enough content! ITS THE SAME IN ALL MMOs! Once you have maxed lvl in other mmos same complaints comes..... Theres no story... theres no endgame.... The pvp is unbalanced.... its the same in all mmo's ONCE you have learned that! then its when you can start enjoying the THEME and SETTING YOU LIKE!

    Its truly as simple as that, everyone CANT like the same theme, the same atmosphere or the same setting!


    Ps. PvP will not ever ever ever be balanced! just watch the FOTM in WOW? changes each day/week/month lol

    I'm enjoying the game but your post is flawed in soooooo many ways.

    1. That you're not having a problem with some bugs, doesn't change the fact that they exist and frustrate people and absolutely doesn't mean that they don't exist. So you've been fortunate and missed them. So what? Even the devs have stated the existence of bugs.

    2. Not enough content, same in all mmos. This couldn't be more wrong. The amount of hours it takes to complete the main story and the amount of activities available after you do so, vary immensley from game to game. I haven't finished defiance, yet but it's easy to see why people are complaining. You've used WoW as en example.
    a) If we go by land mass and environment alone, WoW is far greater.
    Spanning several continents, two of which are individually larger than the space Defiance takes up, there is a hige amount of physical content. Then there's the quests and NPC which fill these environments
    b) The quests and NPCs count towards literally hundreds, if not thousands of quests. It can takes weeks, if not months, to go though every quest in the the game, excluding the dungeons and raids.
    c) yes Defiance has dynamic content, however, WoW has raids, WvW, Faction v Faction, Guild v Guild, PvP. Numerous dedicated battlefields and PvP servers and Arenas
    d) Content through character creation Every race and even some classes in WoW have their very own starting areas and very own opening quests. Even the class content tends to vary, or it used to until Blizzard went crazy. Now it's getting more and more uniform, sadly. Defiance has one starting area for all characters, both races and the quests are the same for everyone.
    e) There's tons of endgame content in WoW. Dungeons, raids, PvP, unique gear collection, rep grinding, battlegrounds and roleplaying on the MANY vibrant cities and bars that populate the world.

    In conclusion of this point alone, Defiance clearly has less content, where you claim it to be the same, and that's just one game comparison.

    3. The implication that "uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?"

    Prenteding Defiance doesn't have issues won't help anyone. Only through fixing the problems can the game be saved. Ignoring the things that turn people away, will only continue to turn people away. Guess what happens to games when too few people play them? They get shut down.

    If you want the game to survive and do well, then let people complain, but encourage them to do it in a way which is helpful. Positive critical feedback is useful, positive reinforcement is not.

    Defiance is good but it has problems. The devs admit it has problems and want to fix it. They are listening to the useful feedback from the players who are pointing out the issues, and are trying to make changes where they can. This is what will save the game and ultimately determine whether or not it's a good one.
  • 04-19-2013, 06:40 AM
    Big_John_72
    I've been playing games, not just MMOs, but games period since before most of you were born. If you think this game is buggy or boring with lack of content, then you're only showing your true lack of experience and maturity. First off, the game has only been out less than 3 weeks and there's no reason why anyone, and I'm retired with nothing to do all day most days, should be done with what Trion rolled this game out with. Try slowing down and truly enjoying things. Don't just run from mission to mission, Ark fall to Ark fall and do everything as fast as you can to say, "I'm done. What next?" Explore things, look at what they created for you. Trion brought us a world completely reformed that is actually our own, yet completely alien. Have any of you pulled up a map online and tried to ride around matching places that might really be there, or at least roughly the same locales. I spent 4 hours doing it one day, was kind of fun. How many of you have noticed that there are at least a dozen different looking plants and trees? Did you even notice them if they weren't part of a quest? Anyone else notice that some of the things the mutants say and the way they say them make the mutants sound like Sloth from Goonies? What am I asking this for? Most of you probably have no idea what the heck Goonies even is, a movie by the way. Pretty good too, about some kids on a treasure hunt, check it out.

    Anyway, this game is not overly buggy. You don't waste any more money on the time you take to find out there are some bugs than we did when Dragon's Lair came to the arcade and was the first video game that cost more than 50 cents to play. (By the way, that game is in the Smithsonian if you need to look that one up too, right next to Pac-Man.) I can't tell you how many dollars I lost finding the bugs in Dragon's Lair the first few days that was in the arcade. This game plays amazing, on 3 platforms, that all cross over and tie in with a TV show that airs every week.

    Someone made a comment about why the game was released in what seemed like a Beta format; That's simple mate, it was on a time schedule to match up with the show. When SyFy, Fox, any network puts out big money like they did for Defiance then you bet your behind the tie in game will be released when they say it will and not delayed cause of a handful of minor bugs. Someone else said you don't see this type of buggy stuff with business and productivity software; Have you ever used any Microsoft software product new in your life? Seen computer sales drop across the board cause of Windows 8 or have you even noticed that trend? Bugs are in every software there is and will always be there at launch no matter how hard you try to stop them. Why you ask; simple we're all different and we all think different and no matter how many testers there are, there are more users and players to the tenth squared power that will always find those few things that were missed.

    So get over it people! Give the good hard working people at Trion a bit of time to roll out the things that they need to roll out to fix these issues. They are already fixing things magnitudes faster than I've seen a lot of MMOs and regular games be fixed. I can pull up Assassin's Creed 3 and still see several issues in that game, and it's been out for how long now? Stop trying to see how fast you can complete the game and instead slow down and enjoy it. I'm not even to 500 ego yet, and I don't care because I'm enjoying everything that I am doing along the way instead.

    Now that said, yes I do have one complaint. Fix those damn Raider Blitzers so that they have to at least be aiming in my general direction to shoot me, instead of running 180 degrees with their guns pointing away from me as they fire and every round hits. Other than that, terrific job Trion! You all deserve huge praise for the beautiful game setting and challenging game design you've brought to us!
  • 04-19-2013, 06:49 AM
    Big_John_72
    Wolfrik, I can agree with your point that you made on "let people complain, but encourage them to do it in a way which is helpful. Positive critical feedback is useful," but positive reinforcement is good also I believe. Many of these devs have given up a lot of their private time since launch to fix the issues that some of us have posted about. They deserve some positive reinforcement for their efforts and I say well done.

    But you do make a good point, we do need to post feedback and report issues as we find them. I think that is more properly done via bug reports in game than what to me appears to be whining cause you can't get your way fast enough through forums. I'm the old guy here though and probably see things differently than most of the ones posting via the forums anyway. And hey, if you submit the bug report and post on the forums, then good for you as well. My issue is with the ones that whine here, and never use the tools that get noticed first which is why they were created in the first place.

    Good post though, like your thoughts especially that last paragraph. Well stated mate.
  • 04-19-2013, 06:53 AM
    Big_John_72
    Justin, how soon do you expect to get those DLC's and how often? Most games add DLC three or four times a year at most. Even then they are at least a month, two months, even three months before the first is deployed. Look at Call of Duty for instance. I, and probably 10 million other people, have a season pass for DLC and have only gotten one of the promised downloads so far. Give them time mate. The content will come.
  • 04-19-2013, 06:53 AM
    M00N
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wolfrik View Post
    In conclusion of this point alone, Defiance clearly has less content, where you claim it to be the same, and that's just one game comparison.

    Im not comparing it to gameplay/content wise of WOW! never did anywere in my post. Exept to answer Mivo and companies successes/failures :)

    What i said was its not fair comparing a new mmo younger than 2+ years with any MMO with success of lasting that long as their content will be sooooo much bigger than a newly born one.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wolfrik View Post
    If you want the game to survive and do well, then let people complain, but encourage them to do it in a way which is helpful. Positive critical feedback is useful, positive reinforcement is not.

    Thats what i said also.

    Dont think you read my post or my answers at all really :(

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wolfrik View Post
    Defiance is good but it has problems. The devs admit it has problems and want to fix it. They are listening to the useful feedback from the players who are pointing out the issues, and are trying to make changes where they can. This is what will save the game and ultimately determine whether or not it's a good one.

    Agreed, even tho im not writing it i have and are posting all my bugg findings and feedback daily trough the game. Thats the only way to help a company point out its flaws and help them along the way to make the game we/you/i play better!
  • 04-19-2013, 06:54 AM
    Wolfrik
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Big_John_72 View Post
    I've been playing games, not just MMOs, but games period since before most of you were born. If you think this game is buggy or boring with lack of content, then you're only showing your true lack of experience and maturity. *snipped for brevity*

    So get over it people! Give the good hard working people at Trion a bit of time to roll out the things that they need to roll out to fix these issues. They are already fixing things magnitudes faster than I've seen a lot of MMOs and regular games be fixed. I can pull up Assassin's Creed 3 and still see several issues in that game, and it's been out for how long now? Stop trying to see how fast you can complete the game and instead slow down and enjoy it. I'm not even to 500 ego yet, and I don't care because I'm enjoying everything that I am doing along the way instead.

    Now that said, yes I do have one complaint. Fix those damn Raider Blitzers so that they have to at least be aiming in my general direction to shoot me, instead of running 180 degrees with their guns pointing away from me as they fire and every round hits. Other than that, terrific job Trion! You all deserve huge praise for the beautiful game setting and challenging game design you've brought to us!

    Rubbish. Having "played games since before you were born" doesn't make people's opinions less valid and does not validate your own. It's called an 'argument from authority' and is a logical fallacy. Peoples complaints are valid whether you're old and past it or not. It absolutely does not mean that they're immature. Infact, by even bringing age into this to provide a position of authority, you've demonstrated your own lack of experience and maturity. Yes the game has good points but it does have flaws and yes the devs are fixing them. That doesn't give you grounds to be condescending. If other players took your attitude as an example, the game would be unchanged from day one of launch as no one would have pointed out the bugs and issues.
  • 04-19-2013, 06:56 AM
    RoG Goat
    Eh... honestly, not really.
    I didn't know it was going to be one of those games that you finish in under a week.
    If I had known it was so short (with such small amount of content), I would have waited until it was $30. Witch with its current state, won't be very far off.

    I thought it was going to be like FO3... taking you weeks even months to finish all of the missions.
    I was disappointed. lol
  • 04-19-2013, 07:00 AM
    Wolfrik
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M00N View Post
    Im not comparing it to gameplay/content wise of WOW! never did anywere in my post. Exept to answer Mivo and companies successes/failures :)

    What i said was its not fair comparing a new mmo younger than 2+ years with any MMO with success of lasting that long as their content will be sooooo much bigger than a newly born one.


    Thats what i said also.

    Dont think you read my post or my answers at all really :(

    You highlighted it in your post and it's highlighted in my quote "it's the same in all MMOs"
    You're right tho, I hadn't read all your posts at the point I responded to your first post. Aplogies there.

    I'm just sick of posts in game forums, which try to negate the very real, very reasonable problems people have with games.

    Game quality has been on a very negative slide for the last few years, and in my opionion, this is laregly due to developers and publishers, doing as little as they can, to get as much money and profit as they can, and being allowed, nay encouraged, to do so by fanbois.

    TL:DR Knee-jerk reaction. Sorry about that.
  • 04-19-2013, 07:01 AM
    Phrase Universe
    Sorry for the double.
  • 04-19-2013, 07:02 AM
    Phrase Universe
    I'm definitely enjoying it.

    http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...umbs-aloft.gif
  • 04-19-2013, 07:05 AM
    M00N
    Yeah lol all mmos kinda points to wow also :P but in my toughts it was more like all mmo's after wow! :P

    But really hope this game lives as the other one really close to this in theme/feeling went dead= Tabula Rasa witch was ace theme wise and gameplay/skills/weapons but failed all over the place becouse of the millions of buggs. For those that didnt play it it was worse than AoC and for those that didnt play that it was REALLY REALLY bad :)

    But i like defiance and the buggs so far (in my oppinion) isnt gamebreaking even tho theres a alot of them, and yeah i might have been lucky bugg wise becouse i havent lost any weapons, none of my quests failed or got borked i do understand that there are buggs around!

    So i like Defiance to live and my post was to gather up people that like it so even tho theres buggs in the game, and plays it and wants the best for it! Admins/devs see that theres something positive and a positive athmosphere from some of us! :)
  • 04-19-2013, 07:08 AM
    WrathPhoenix
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M00N View Post
    Im loving each minute of it!

    Why?

    Becouse this MMO is like ALL other MMO releases out there! We/you/anyone cant compare a newly released game to a game that has been running 2+ years really.

    And compared to other older MMOs and their release days (weeks) Its kinda smooth, sure a few pursuits are bugging out! But really that isnt gamebreaking at all. Sure its not one of the smoothest launches but its FAR from the worst.

    All the quest buggs some people are having an issue with i have had no problem at all. Did all the sidequests all the zone pursuits exept marin becouse of Dam Defence and The Crater recording (all fixed now and completed).

    The only thing I have been having trouble/problems with is the Killcount in some pursuits (pvp and arkfall) But as theres an "workaround" for that im soon done with those to.

    Anyway loving the game loving the THEME and setting of the game! Love shooting things up!

    Also everyone complaining that theres not enough content! ITS THE SAME IN ALL MMOs! Once you have maxed lvl in other mmos same complaints comes..... Theres no story... theres no endgame.... The pvp is unbalanced.... its the same in all mmo's ONCE you have learned that! then its when you can start enjoying the THEME and SETTING YOU LIKE!

    Its truly as simple as that, everyone CANT like the same theme, the same atmosphere or the same setting!


    Ps. PvP will not ever ever ever be balanced! just watch the FOTM in WOW? changes each day/week/month lol

    My wife and I are avid players. We certainly are in love with the game.

    Im not going anywhere.
  • 04-19-2013, 07:21 AM
    Rampermt
    I'm still enjoying every minute of it, the contracts to me help keep me going plus seeing everyone at arkfalls!
  • 04-19-2013, 07:37 AM
    WeeohhWeeohh
    I'm enjoying the crap out of it.
  • 04-19-2013, 07:42 AM
    Multigun
    I like to think that complete butt hurt nerd rage we have been seeing on the forums is the "vocal minority." It sure didn't take long for the trolls to come out of the wood work and bash every single element of the game that they possibly can and literally nothing can make them happy.

    *Deep breath* yes I am completely enjoying the game. Just thinking I should stay off the forums, as I imagine the people who are enjoying the game are busy playing instead of forum whining.
  • 04-19-2013, 07:44 AM
    ANTIDEAD
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Multigun View Post
    I like to think that complete butt hurt nerd rage we have been seeing on the forums is the "vocal minority." It sure didn't take long for the trolls to come out of the wood work and bash every single element of the game that they possibly can and literally nothing can make them happy.

    Totally agree and it's the case with a lot of games out there. There are so many beloved successful games out there, that when you go to their forum, all you get is a bunch of complaints / whining.
  • 04-19-2013, 07:47 AM
    Remag Div
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Phrase Universe View Post
    http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...umbs-aloft.gif

    Holy crap that kinda looks like me when I was younger. lol

    Anyway, I'm EGO 950 and have been logging in practically every night since launch and still enjoy it. I think it's just cause it's so different from other MMO's. If this was a traditional tab targeting with hotbar spam MMO I would already not be playing as much I think.
  • 04-19-2013, 07:47 AM
    dalendria
    I'm having fun still. I even started an alt. Doing some roleplaying so I created a character with a medic background. Been healing at Major Arkfalls and loving it so far.

    I only wanted a few things from this game and they have delivered on most. 1. To have fun - delivered. 2. To shoot things, many and often - delivered. 3. To have a stable environment - Not delivered. Still too many major bugs. 4. To have a decent enough scifi game world for my headcannon roleplaying - delivered.

    Enjoyed the show which has added to my game experience. Looking forward to the bug patch to get a more stable experience and the upcoming content update.
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