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If the devs know what they are doing it will be free to play but not pay to win. It is all about the item but not the power in free to play games. Firefall and Planet Side 2 are free to play and Defiance can't compete with those Triple AAA MMO shooter. Not ever free to play game is pay to win.
*unless Defiance is also free to play
Care to provide examples? Because as much as I remember, most of recent p2p titles failed not because of paying model, but because of crapload of other reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atheosis
Well that's the thing-it mostly is.Quote:
And if it doesn't?
Firefall is still in beta so that doesn't counts for much. As for Planetside2, it pretty much is a p2w dumbed down version of PS1.Quote:
If the devs know what they are doing it will be free to play but not pay to win. It is all about the item but not the power in free to play games. Firefall and Planet Side 2 are free to play and Defiance can't compete with those Triple AAA MMO shooter. Not ever free to play game is pay to win.
Then I don't know, honestly. Whatever it takes for this game to be sucessful. We console gamers need a truely good mmo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atheosis
But, free to play is almost always pay to win....
Plus, Firefall will be completely free. I also wouldnt consider it AAA. I played the beta and it's decent enough but it definitely feels like a free game. I don't think many people would pay $60 for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by deusex2
Firefall is coming a long great but there is no set date for release but I would say in about 4-6 months it will be release, it will be right along defiance for players and if a play has to choose free over pay they will go free. This game might not work for x-box, Microsoft is a **** when it comes to patches and updates.
I'm a fan of subs, I've posted on other similer threads as to why.
Of course everyone wants something for free, but when they make something awesome, they wanna charge others for it.
Sub will do several things:
provide the developers with a steady paycheck to KEEP developing.
Limit access to the game/community from spammers, scammers and lamers (not eliminate, but limit)
Give a reason to think of how each player is behaving, if they are faced with a ban for misbehaving or cheating
One of the cons of a sub has mostly to do with console gamers. PSN and MSL both charge fees to access their online content, ONTOP of their normal internet access subscription. This has nothing to do with the game developers, it has everything to do with Sony and Microsoft. Complaining about that, would be like complaining to Ford or Honda about why they have to pay Chevron 3 bucks a gallon for gas.
On the flip side, the fees you pay PSN and MSL for access, isnt exclusive to Defiance, it's also part of ALL your online content. MAYBE, PSN and MSL access sub will be included at discount with a defiance sub, who knows until you see it.
Bottom line, imo: If you cant afford to play the game, maybe you shouldnt be playing the game.
and TL;DR; It was already hinted at, that you will have a choice to buy dlc "piece meal" content and access, or pay a sub an get it all included. "Free" wont happen, if it does, I want my Lambo.
PSN is a free services but I never thought about spammers and how it could effect this game. But still most people want to try before buy and free to play is the best for income. You just have to have your store set up right. Exp boosters, skins and paints, access weapons and stuff early.
any game that has an in game market, gets hit with gold sellers. Free, like firefall, will have it in abundance, provided firefall implements a player trade system.
The only reason they don't have it is because they are working on a way to stop gold farmers. They could make a lot money off gold farmer if they use a system. Players can put in-game money up for real money. The market would flood and gold farmers are gone. You can see this in the steam market, bad crates in the last 24 hours have dropped to 50% of what they were selling for yesterday. Everyone wants to under cut everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadinaxx