No rewards?

I am sure there was many posts about how this game was designed and that there would be very little vertical progression. If you don't want a L10 ego being able to kill a L5000 ego player, then I think you have picked the wrong game.

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Originally Posted by Castiel Krios

lol yup the game models are archaic and dying off now that competitive e-sports is gaining momentum now

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it's really a shame too. I look at Everquest, 13-14 years now? There is more content in the zones people don't visit any more, than are in most games. Some of those zones were amazing back in the day, and go almost completely ignored now, it's kind of depressing. I said this in another thread, but I would love to see what they could do with a lot of those outdated zones if the implemented the horizontal progression model. They made an attempt in Everquest, with "spirit shrouding", to turn you into lower level character or monster, to revisit those levels, but it didn't catch on.

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Originally Posted by ironhands

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I like that signature, it answers 90% of the common faults. Now if only the devs will have a lot of that with 'known' issues they are looking into

OP sounds depressed.

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Originally Posted by Castiel Krios

Love how people who share the OP's point of view believe the game has no progression good luck in life with those observational skills of yours

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yeah because that's how people see life, there is a difference between how you feel about a game and how you feel about life. u r su smrt

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Originally Posted by babyfacenorman

yeah because that's how people see life, there is a difference between how you feel about a game and how you feel about life. u r su smrt

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he's saying if you can't see the subtle progression at all, you'll miss many such subtleties in life, or, that if you feel that the only reward is getting something better, you may also miss out on many other rewards in life

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Originally Posted by babyfacenorman

yeah because that's how people see life, there is a difference between how you feel about a game and how you feel about life. u r su smrt

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clearly you missed the moral of what I was saying which means that my previous statement is also directed at you...Good luck in life good sir you will need it lol

and on a side note wth is with the whole "u r su smrt" bit? even if you were going for internet abbreviations you forgot how to spell "so" lol

There are some weapons that simply don't seem to show up at lower Ego ratings. Mass Launchers didn't show up till I was 500+, Swarm Rebounder Launchers until I was 1000+.

im tired of everyone wanting this game to be like WoW too.

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Originally Posted by Antomus

Wrong. That's how WoW works. In Defiance you're rewarded with things like bettering your perks, using more perks, and things of that nature. I quite enjoy the fact that a good player with an EGO rating of 100 can stomp a bad player with an EGO rating of 4000.

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Originally Posted by ExpiredLifetime

Do you know why those games do progression the way they do? They're forced into it.
Gear progression is a way of gating content. Gating content is something Trion did not want to do.

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This.

Can people please stop saying "there's no reason not to do it in PvE" when this reason has been given multiple times now.