Treatment of PS3 owners is appalling, AVOID BUYING PS3 VERSION IF

if the next gen ps is gonna be more like a pc, then im gonna start getting worried cuz look at how many hackers are on pc and xbl, make the ps4 like that and youll have hackers like crazy breaking into psn accts left and right cuz then itll be a helluva lot easier to hack...they should just keep the coding the same, make it hard as hell for hackers to get into psn accts and if that means i have to wait for patches a little bit longer so my security is as strong as possible then so be it, no complaints here on the delayed patch lol

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Originally Posted by Era

You realize that the delay is entirely the fault of Sony and would happen regardless of who the developer was right? And that it happens for EVERY Sony game, right?

Sony has to certify every single patch to every game on a Sony product. This means patch delays...for every single game.

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what you call "delay" is called making the game/patch right the first time.. they spare the players the anguuish (usually) of crappy patches and borked games.. all while being region free...

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Originally Posted by Mirimon

what you call "delay" is called making the game/patch right the first time.. they spare the players the anguuish (usually) of crappy patches and borked games.. all while being region free...

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Except that's powshtako. Trion develops the patch. Sony doesn't "make the patch right" at all.

As someone who has both the pc and the ps3 version, I have to say it does make me want to stick to the PC moreso. Regardless of what's causing the delay, it sucks to feel left behind.

I always love it when people use "slap in the face."

As soon as I see that, I know that I can ignore everything else the author has to say.

why is everyone saying the opatch screwed up the pc version? i play on PC and i havent noticed any problems after the patches.
also who cares if you can farm keycodes...they are useless anyway. all you can do with then is get lockboxes and ive gotten several lockboxes and all of them have had JUNK in them. ive never gotten a good item from a lockbox and most of the stuff i have gotten has been the worst gear ive seen in the game. so what is the point of farming them? hel even selling the lockbox gear for scrip is a waste of time as the little scrip you get isnt worth the time spent to get the keys or the salvage to convert to keys

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Originally Posted by rush

Treatment of PS3 owners is appalling, AVOID BUYING PS3 VERSION IF You want the most up to date and patched version of Defiance... They way Trion has treated PS3 owners is despicable. Within 14 days they already started to drop support.. Now a week from that we are even more behind in patches..

A total disgrace and slap in the face of every PS owner.. This game was touted as a multi plat form launch and supported title.. Doing so only for 360 and PC isnt cutting it.

I have returned both of my $20 PSN cards I did have saved for the DLC/Season Pass.. No way in hell am I paying premium price for this content when Trion cant even get me simple patches on time. .Now we are 2 patches back.

I have a Clan that was 20 people deep a week into release.. More then half have already quit stating the support from Trion is pathetic at best.

AGAIN AS A CONSUMER WHO PURCHASED THIS PRODUCT I FEEL I HAVE THE NEED TO WARN OTHERS HOPEFULLY ITS NOT TO LATE. DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT BUY THE PS3 VERSION OF THIS GAME IF YOU WANT A SUPPORTED VERSION OR THE MOST UP TO DATE WITH PATCHES.

I have already posted this on metacritic and on Amazon.com.. I will never buy another Trion product again, I supported you only to get a slap in the face and nothing back in return.. Thus my support has ended like yours never started!!!!

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^ I love how people post stuff like this as if they are gonna get somewhere. They have a crappy experience and just HAVE to tell everyone. Kinda how girls gossip in high school. Lol. I have the game on PS3 since it came out, and my brother has it on xbox, he wishes he bought a p$3 now lol. Now what this rush D.B. Obviously doesn't know is that the patches are coming, perhaps a bit behind, but they are coming. Now, UN twist your panties and stop posting on a community forum that people use that enjoy the game. Play or don't play, I don't care, just stop taking up forum space to B*tch

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Originally Posted by LaserJudas

I always love it when people use "slap in the face."

As soon as I see that, I know that I can ignore everything else the author has to say.

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I couldn't agree more

So you're *****ing because you're not getting a broken patch? Good god, you sir, need to surrender your life.

Seriously, why do the PS Fanbooys constantly complain that they don't get stuff everyone else does? I could understand if the patch fixed everything, but it didn't, and getting keycodes is time consuming now as opposed to quick and easy in the version you're currently playing. I don't see how they're treating you unfairly in the least bit. We're all getting a messed up deal that will be fixed eventually, so shut the **** up, sit back and farm your KCs. When the patch that fixes everything is here, and if you don't get that one, then, and ONLY then, can you post stupid **** like this. Go rage at some plants, or something.

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Originally Posted by Mirimon

compared to others.. yeah.. even the fbi and cia get hacked, nearly every month. xbox isn't free from hacking either.. infact, it has had 8x as many hacking issues. (both for information theft and general modification, the xbox360 is the most hacked platform in the world.. mostly because it needs hacked just to even attempt to do what a ps3 does out of the box, btu also because most xbox customers are clueless and seem to enjoy losing money.. I refer you to their marketing.. where you convert real money.. more than is needed.. into chunks of microsoft points, to purchase content that, if the publisher had any say in it, would otherwise be free..)

but.. consider this.. there is a difference in hacking the PSN network, where sales transactions take place.. and hacking the general ps3 user data..

furthermore.. were you a person interested in money.. would you go where there are over 40 million accounts? or where there are barely 20mil?... ( consider also.. why waste time hacking an inferior system that is consistently down for unknown issues.... ahem.. xbl....)

now.. mind you, even to this day, MS insists it has never had a hacking of xbl services.. but testimony, witnesses, and evidence CLEARLY shows otherwise, there are several neutral 3rd party companies keeping score on that front.

We as people tend to see only negatives, and get stuck on seeing something soo broadly advertised/reported on that we think it's a huge issue, when in reality we are adding up the number of times something negative has been said rather than adding up the number of times something negative has actually happened.

plus.. ps3 lets me safely surf all the pron i want, pop-up and virus free..


anyways.. I didn't state it was never hacked.. like any lock, no matter how well made, people will endeavor to crack it, such is the game of security.. I simply stated how secure it was.. accounting the over 40 million accounts, the number affected was, as a ratio, considerably less than the number of xbl accounts affected.. which has been hacked several times every year since 2005..

oh.. and ps3 ain't never killed nobody or burnt down their homes..., put that in ur pipe and smoke it.

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its astonishing to read the amount false information in your posts in this topic. its like you're living in some alternate reality that doesnt exist and i highly doubt you've ever experienced xboxlive because you clearly know nothing about it.

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Originally Posted by Misanthrope 1

its astonishing to read the amount false information in your posts in this topic. its like you're living in some alternate reality that doesnt exist and i highly doubt you've ever experienced xboxlive because you clearly know nothing about it.

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to rebut a statement, one requires facts.. void of that all you have is nonsense....

PSN better not drop the ball for Destiny Bungies new title sense it was stated that Destiny will be PS3-PS4 Xbox 360-nextgen

I understand that console security for PSN is vary tight and they don't want to put there players at risk again as with past patchers leaving loopholes and expoitables to hit CreditCard info so im sorry that your PS3 isn't being supported as well as you hoped

did you know that, an i safly assume its cause they are releasing PS4

If you are surprised by DLC/Patch delays on PS3 you are an idiot.

Skyrim - Release 11-11-2011
Dawnguard XBox - 5-29-2012 PS3 - 2-26-2013
Hearthfire Xbox 9-4-2012 PS3 2-19-2013
Dragonborn Xbox 2-12-2013

Skyrim was one of the best launches of a non-shooter in recent memory. But it two almost 1.5 YEARS for the first DLC to hit PS3. This is Sony and their jacked up programing language.

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Originally Posted by Mirimon

to rebut a statement, one requires facts.. void of that all you have is nonsense....

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Not if that statement is pure shtako. There is no need to rebut something that was never valid to begin with.

Um do not put Skyrim in here, Bethesda clearly did/does not know how to program as they have pulled the same stuff on Sony before. That was moresso the reason for dlc delay well that and Bethesda has always been in bed with Microshaft.
Anyhow back on topic i tend to agree if the patch had issues for PC/Xbox then i would rather them take time to get it working properly even as annoying as the freezes have been

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Originally Posted by Deirachel

If you are surprised by DLC/Patch delays on PS3 you are an idiot.

Skyrim - Release 11-11-2011
Dawnguard XBox - 5-29-2012 PS3 - 2-26-2013
Hearthfire Xbox 9-4-2012 PS3 2-19-2013
Dragonborn Xbox 2-12-2013

Skyrim was one of the best launches of a non-shooter in recent memory. But it two almost 1.5 YEARS for the first DLC to hit PS3. This is Sony and their jacked up programing language.

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OMFG that is so funny.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...ms-on-xbox-360
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...-Fly-Backwards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdfEsZxDmNQ
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/63...o-Civil-Unrest

Bethesda fanboys. Always the funniest peoples.

Meh this game fits console perfectly...

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Originally Posted by Ikagawa

I'm pretty sure people have covered this already, but Trion has no say in when they're able to patch the PS3 version of their game. That is up to the people that certify the data at Sony.

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This ^^

Has nothing to do with Trion. They would love to release the patch immediately to PS3...but SONY slows them down.

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Originally Posted by rush

Treatment of PS3 owners is appalling, AVOID BUYING PS3 VERSION IF You want the most up to date and patched version of Defiance... They way Trion has treated PS3 owners is despicable. Within 14 days they already started to drop support.. Now a week from that we are even more behind in patches..

A total disgrace and slap in the face of every PS owner.. This game was touted as a multi plat form launch and supported title.. Doing so only for 360 and PC isnt cutting it.

I have returned both of my $20 PSN cards I did have saved for the DLC/Season Pass.. No way in hell am I paying premium price for this content when Trion cant even get me simple patches on time. .Now we are 2 patches back.

I have a Clan that was 20 people deep a week into release.. More then half have already quit stating the support from Trion is pathetic at best.

AGAIN AS A CONSUMER WHO PURCHASED THIS PRODUCT I FEEL I HAVE THE NEED TO WARN OTHERS HOPEFULLY ITS NOT TO LATE. DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT BUY THE PS3 VERSION OF THIS GAME IF YOU WANT A SUPPORTED VERSION OR THE MOST UP TO DATE WITH PATCHES.

I have already posted this on metacritic and on Amazon.com.. I will never buy another Trion product again, I supported you only to get a slap in the face and nothing back in return.. Thus my support has ended like yours never started!!!!

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You are an ignorant beast.

I'd rather have a working patch that takes a little longer to come out than some jury rigged patch that cause ten times more problems than it fixes but if want to whine and leave i don't think to many people in the PS3 community are going to miss you.

I purchased the PS3 version over the PC version for a few reasons and have yet to regret my decision. If you're thinking about buying the PS3 version, go for it. However, make sure that you're not someone who is hungry for patches.

I approve this thread title

If PS3 wasn't so darn hard to code for, we wouldn't have a problem.

I'm not so sure the coding for ps3 is the problem, I think it's the testing and them giving the go ahead for patches which causes the delays. I played DCUO from release and they put out majority of their patches and DLC's out at the same time for both PC and PS3. The only delay you usually get is when you have to wait for the psn store update but that's weekly and different days for different regions. There has been the odd delay difference due to certifying patches that I have come across during my time on there and sometimes EU have allowed it before USA and vice-versa. PC has had a few slightly earlier due to not needing to wait for psn updates but nothing well ahead in time difference.

It could be that SOE are better at coding for PS3 because they are a Sony company or if it is the coding, they wait until it's ready for both platforms before announcing them and then release them simultaneously. If it's the case of them waiting until they have both ready before announcing and releasing, it isn't a bad move because it negates the uproar you get from delays on one side of the player base.

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Originally Posted by Deirachel

If you are surprised by DLC/Patch delays on PS3 you are an idiot.

Skyrim - Release 11-11-2011
Dawnguard XBox - 5-29-2012 PS3 - 2-26-2013
Hearthfire Xbox 9-4-2012 PS3 2-19-2013
Dragonborn Xbox 2-12-2013

Skyrim was one of the best launches of a non-shooter in recent memory. But it two almost 1.5 YEARS for the first DLC to hit PS3. This is Sony and their jacked up programing language.

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^^ must not play games..

as neat as skyrim was.. it was the buggiest release from bethesda...worse still.. the patches and dlc for xbox made the game even worse for it... ps3 got all of that dlc, eventually, when they did they got it right and fixed some coding issues already present..... get a clue guy.


since we like to throw around things that are not relevant to defiance..

recall that ff11.. a truly cross platform mmorpg, which is still going on..launched on pc and PS2... continued to ps3 (because sony does cool stuff like that) and only AFTER the next ms console, the 360 came it.. did ms have a console capable of BARELY playing it... sad is.. for years the ps2 not only outsold the 360, but outperformed it....

again.. the consumer market trend, globally abandoning the 360 in favor of the ps3 has been on going for years now (though, to this day.. people speak soo little of it that most of those who still play xbox haven't bothered to look up and wonder where everybody went..) and no.. pls don't come back with some rediculous "sales" numbers for consoles... leaving out the faact that you and/or the store you purchase from only had to sell that ps3 once, while on average a 360 is replaced every 4 months, and they count it as a "sale"...

http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...-NA-amp-EU-PS3

Yeah they changed it now its the 29th they want to "test" patch more truth is probably more like they don't work weekend's and dont want to be bothered to fix something they break knowing the track record.

Sooo, there goes the idea that PS3 versions of the patch would be better because it takes longer, seeing how they are getting the same exact version of the patch that the Xbox/PC version already got. Be prepared to no longer have scope site on some weapons, since that was fixed in the patch after the one coming to PS3, you'll have to wait for Sony to approve that fix.

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Originally Posted by Mirimon

^^ must not play games..

as neat as skyrim was.. it was the buggiest release from bethesda...worse still.. the patches and dlc for xbox made the game even worse for it... ps3 got all of that dlc, eventually, when they did they got it right and fixed some coding issues already present..... get a clue guy.


since we like to throw around things that are not relevant to defiance..

recall that ff11.. a truly cross platform mmorpg, which is still going on..launched on pc and PS2... continued to ps3 (because sony does cool stuff like that) and only AFTER the next ms console, the 360 came it.. did ms have a console capable of BARELY playing it... sad is.. for years the ps2 not only outsold the 360, but outperformed it....

again.. the consumer market trend, globally abandoning the 360 in favor of the ps3 has been on going for years now (though, to this day.. people speak soo little of it that most of those who still play xbox haven't bothered to look up and wonder where everybody went..) and no.. pls don't come back with some rediculous "sales" numbers for consoles... leaving out the faact that you and/or the store you purchase from only had to sell that ps3 once, while on average a 360 is replaced every 4 months, and they count it as a "sale"...

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So many blatant lies here it's hardly funny.

Skyrims release buggy as it was was definitely not Bethesda's worst release. It also seems obvious that you did not play any of the DLC when it released for Xbox, so you really have no experience with how it performed.

As for the late releases with DLC it had everything to do with coding issues with the system itself as confirmed by Bethesda and Sony, which is not uncommon with the PS3.

Not even sure why you started to ramble on about sales and the other crap.

Howdy all,

There are a ton of reasons why any of our platforms can get out of sync.

If there was only a single reason, I wouldn't be having heart attacks nor nightmares with space unicorns chasing me. No really, there is no single reason.

Playstation 3 are behind today and we're really sorry for that.

Right now, like, literally now, we've worked out most issues and gone through most of the process. That means that we'll be able to patch to Playstation, the big client patch with all the recent server fixes since then Monday or Tuesday.

Why not today? Because final testing starts today and will continue over the weekend.

Yes, of course we do work weekends. Assuming anything else is quite frankly, silly :)

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Originally Posted by Oveur

Howdy all,

There are a ton of reasons why any of our platforms can get out of sync.

If there was only a single reason, I wouldn't be having heart attacks nor nightmares with space unicorns chasing me. No really, there is no single reason.

Playstation 3 are behind today and we're really sorry for that.

Right now, like, literally now, we've worked out most issues and gone through most of the process. That means that we'll be able to patch to Playstation, the big client patch with all the recent server fixes since then Monday or Tuesday.

Why not today? Because final testing starts today and will continue over the weekend.

Yes, of course we do work weekends. Assuming anything else is quite frankly, silly :)

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Hey this is reassuring :) Really though I think the PS3 version will be fine in the long run...

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Originally Posted by Oveur

Howdy all,

There are a ton of reasons why any of our platforms can get out of sync.

If there was only a single reason, I wouldn't be having heart attacks nor nightmares with space unicorns chasing me. No really, there is no single reason.

Playstation 3 are behind today and we're really sorry for that.

Right now, like, literally now, we've worked out most issues and gone through most of the process. That means that we'll be able to patch to Playstation, the big client patch with all the recent server fixes since then Monday or Tuesday.

Why not today? Because final testing starts today and will continue over the weekend.

Yes, of course we do work weekends. Assuming anything else is quite frankly, silly :)

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*W* awesome and i understand

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Originally Posted by Oveur

Howdy all,

There are a ton of reasons why any of our platforms can get out of sync.

If there was only a single reason, I wouldn't be having heart attacks nor nightmares with space unicorns chasing me. No really, there is no single reason.

Playstation 3 are behind today and we're really sorry for that.

Right now, like, literally now, we've worked out most issues and gone through most of the process. That means that we'll be able to patch to Playstation, the big client patch with all the recent server fixes since then Monday or Tuesday.

Why not today? Because final testing starts today and will continue over the weekend.

Yes, of course we do work weekends. Assuming anything else is quite frankly, silly :)

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Well said. I just wish a little more communication was used so we dont end up getting threads like this. But then again I like laughing when the TC get owned by you guys.

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Originally Posted by Jack The Bear

I disagree, Buy the PS3 version, Less bugs! More fun! Farm Keycodes! Enjoy the Playstation forever! Go Team PS!

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I like you're attitude. You're gonna go far, kid!

http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...-NA-amp-EU-PS3

here you go now hopefully people wont complain as much now about a patch

Be honest the patch wasn't that great. I would take more keycodes over the patch any day. But whatever.

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Originally Posted by Oveur

Howdy all,

There are a ton of reasons why any of our platforms can get out of sync.

If there was only a single reason, I wouldn't be having heart attacks nor nightmares with space unicorns chasing me. No really, there is no single reason.

Playstation 3 are behind today and we're really sorry for that.

Right now, like, literally now, we've worked out most issues and gone through most of the process. That means that we'll be able to patch to Playstation, the big client patch with all the recent server fixes since then Monday or Tuesday.

Why not today? Because final testing starts today and will continue over the weekend.

Yes, of course we do work weekends. Assuming anything else is quite frankly, silly :)

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I am just happy it is finally on it's way -CHEERS-

I am quite happy being patchless ATM
farming keycodes, higher exp, and random quests!!!
I dread the patch lol

First off, I don't read the forums several hours a day so can someone who is not a jerk explain :

"More key code farming vs a patch"
Not sure what this referes to unless it's the part of the patch about only getting rewards if you contribute to an Arkfall.

Second, I prefer the PS3 version to the broken and almost unplayable 360 version.

Also I don't seem to get most of the bugs other PS3 users get. Not sure why that is.

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Originally Posted by Oveur

Howdy all,

There are a ton of reasons why any of our platforms can get out of sync.

If there was only a single reason, I wouldn't be having heart attacks nor nightmares with space unicorns chasing me. No really, there is no single reason.

Playstation 3 are behind today and we're really sorry for that.

Right now, like, literally now, we've worked out most issues and gone through most of the process. That means that we'll be able to patch to Playstation, the big client patch with all the recent server fixes since then Monday or Tuesday.

Why not today? Because final testing starts today and will continue over the weekend.

Yes, of course we do work weekends. Assuming anything else is quite frankly, silly :)

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Howdy, Oveur. The thread announcing the date of the PS3 patch links to the list of bugs in the patch that the PC and Xbox players received. Does that mean that you're planning to introduce all of those bugs to the PS3 version? I'd really prefer that you didn't.