Dev should really resolve these damage/speed hacks soon!
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Dev should really resolve these damage/speed hacks soon!
i hope the devs really do something about it pretty soon , yesterday at an arkfall a hacker oneshotted the boss
Agreed. Did an Arkfall event tonight. Someone was one-shotting the crystals during the small arkfalls and the main Arkfall event was over in 2 and a half minutes. It's very annoying
To be honest a 24 hour ban is not enough, give them a week or something at first. Second time a month and third for ever. People need to understand that ruining the game for others should not be rewarded with a lot of xp.
permament ban imo. when you buy a game you agree with terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by ExcuseMyMandarin
Check this out, Major Arkfall
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agreed to the fullest screw hackersQuote:
Originally Posted by excusemymandarin
Not to mention, those jerks are more idiots than hackers, as ranking first in Arkfalls is of no use, loot and keys are randomly awarded ;)
Hackers Ruin all games..
PS: All you images are broken.
Just saw the same guy doing it again in some major arkfalls just now. Nice to see how on the ball the devs are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack77
http://i.imgur.com/vhkAB6V.jpg
Ugg this sucks... I hope they can fix it but unfortunately I am doubtful ....
the final score in that picture looks weird. leaving the 99 million dmg aside, 14th on the list got 49 kills with 0 dmg. maybe it's just a bug with dynamic events or with some weapons / loadouts...?
in any case it needs to be looked into real fast, hacked game - on top of all the issues with defiance - is the last thing trion needs.
The zero damage is a bug in co-ops as well as ark falls. It was happening to me with cluster grenades as well as cluster rocket launchers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merrin
pc or is the box hacked too?
could be, but wouldn't the kill count also be 0 in that case? the 0 dmg bug has not happened to me yet, so i don't know how it works, but i imagine you can't get any kill if you do 0 dmg. or can you?Quote:
Originally Posted by seros
anyway, it's in trion's best interest to determine whether it's a bug or a hack, either of them is very bad for their business...
Nope I had this happening to me for about a week It showed kills but no damage. I got rid of all cluster producing weapons in every load out when I re-logged I started showing up again. It wasn't just what I had equipped in the load out I was using, it was every load out.. this may not work for everyone but It did for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merrin
Yeah this is a known issueQuote:
Originally Posted by seros
Damage hacks are real, the damage is apparently decided client side. I've seen people running this in pve destroying arkfall crystals in one hit. Even seen it in pvp, pretty sure there's no shotgun that can 1 shot me from far away.. I don't die from point-blank on legit builds, so i'm pretty sure that dude was hacking.
I hope that it's a perma ban, I had these problems as well during missions. Trying to complete a mission and one guy runs in, doesn't die, goes through the whole mission and boom, it's done in 20 seconds, I get no kills, no scrip from kills and more. It's stupid...
I'm sure bans are incoming for these people. In the meantime, I'm ok with letting them do all the work in arkfalls. I get xp, keys, and gear and they'll get banned. win win.
And the zero damage bug is known and pretty well documented. I'm sure it'll be in the next major bug fix patch.
Wonder if this is why some arkfalls are getting bugged and never finishing. Had three in a row that had the crystal blow up in the first minute or so and the bugs just kept spawning until the timer expired.Quote:
Originally Posted by BadMomentum
Yea, that's what I was explaining. Thanks though :)...Quote:
Originally Posted by hagpop
are these pictures from pc? i heard somewhere that they hacked the xbox and ps3 version (though i do tons of arkfalls and never seen anything like those pictures) but havn't seen anything like that. i dont understand hackers and what makes the game fun for them.
but for taking care of them, its not like a point and click and they are out. im sure they are working on it and they will be banned.
I haven't seen anything like it either, though I'm on the XBOX version. I would assume it's on the PC due to the easiness to mod on the computer.. It's a bit more difficult to do it on console games, but it has been done before. I agree with everything that's been said before, though. They do deserve to be perma-banned, but it's not as easy as it sounds. Especially on a game where tens of thousands are on at any given second, despite providing the culprits information.Quote:
Originally Posted by twoeyebug
I'll just put this out there as common sense has gone the way of the dodo. You see the hacker, report them. don't like the score, report them. Want to b*itch about a 99 million damage score, REPORT THEM. Doesn't matter how long they get suspended, if 20 people complain about the same person something will be done.
The game has JUST LAUNCHED. Devs have enough issues to deal with then look for hackers. Report them or your going to have to deal with it. Its like a bunch of kids getting their jollies over you cause they know you'll get mad. Report them. Plain and simple.
Its on xbox as well. I have seen it several times on the major arkfalls and even seen the end boss on the Motherload co-op and another co-op boss get one shot killed as well. It is very frustrating and YES for sure these guys (or girls) should be console banned from the game.
But when its all said and done it doesn't affect our game. The thing that does affect our game is the cheaters on the hotshot challenges and time trials. Its frustrating when you spend hours on racing to get in the top three only to have a player decimate your time by unreal times.
I will say however that the DEVS are DEFINATLY working on it. I know this because I had sent two reports from the xbox console
regarding certain gamer tags and time trial times and within a few hours the devs reset the time trial times and removed the cheated times.
So they are aware of the people that are cheating, I would assume they are working on the best way to deal with them but I think a perma ban should def. be handed down. Thanks for listening!!!!!!!!!
P.S.---I cant believe I just defended the devs. Oh well|!!! When they do good they do good I guess. LOL
I definitely hear ya.. At least, the Dev team here is trying their damnedest to make the game as great as they can. I mean, I've played games before where the Dev team(s) have completely turned a blind eye to the hackers/cheaters due to the amounts of money they dropped on the game. Granted, this isn't like some games where your greatness is directly equal to how much money you've spent, but you kind of get the idea.. This Dev team does deserve a lot of recognition, especially if they continue the great work.Quote:
Originally Posted by ISLAND3R
After 2 weeks of open ticket about hacker, I finally got a canned response. Mean while that cheater is still running around.
They are turning a blind eye on the issue and sweeping it under the carpet like everything else so it's not suprising to me at all....
People that are just waiting for the ban hammer .... truth is that theys people most likely didn't pay for there game in the first place they used a Key gen logged it into steam or other means (saying they got a store copy)
that means even if they get out the ban hammer its not even going to slow the hackers down. They need to shut down the PC client side way of doing things befor they can "fix" anything
at least I got my $99 worth of entertainment out of this game as the storm of hackers blow in. So much for PvP
Rookie mistake - hate to see it - I seem to recall Origin saying the one thing they learned during the beta of UO was never trust the client. Now here it is 20 years later and devs are still making that fatal mistake?
Well - even if the devs and project manager never anticipated this there has to be a easy way to do some bounds checking to minimize this - lets say you can calculate out that no character in any ego level attainable with the best weapon etc should not be able to do more than xxxx in damage - server side if you check your numbers and find a client doing more than that either flag it for investigation or auto-ban it (depending on how confident you are in your checks) oh and adjust that number down before applying it to the mob or player the attack is directed towards. I would adjust it down to....oh I dunno lets say zero.
Really - I can see that this game would be more prone to hacking than most - BUT I can also see it would be easier to figure out and eliminate hacking server-side because inflicting damage is everything in this game whereas a lot of games deal with healing and such...not as much here. Auto-aiming and botting are inevitable and hard to prove - would rather they ignored it then installing programs on the client to try and stamp it out. There are plenty of points where you can check and double check for cheating without resorting to intrusive client-side monitoring or whatever.
One shot kills?!? Players creating their own bits? That cant be ignored....it will totally destroy the game very quickly. I expect once they have the servers stable and performing well they will put checks in place for cheating.
I seen a few in ps3 pvp couple arks and coop. I just try to ignore them and tickets i gave up on. They will sooner or later get them but to easy for them to get back on how it is... Reminds me of dark souls. Hope they keep nailing them sooner or later they will move on.
Exactly, giving small penalties is only a waste of time, cheaters won't stop over a temp ban.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gojira
Heck, even the majority of permanent banned D3 users just go and buy the game again.
I'm thankful for that there is no auction house and other economy in Defaince!
Permanent Bans! Make them buy the game over and over and over and over ..
yea i've been spending sometime apart from dark souls and its occasional hacker, only to play defiance and hear some brats are doing it again. I don't really understand why its done it must be a juvenile thing where they can't really substantiate a reason, anarchy and all that "look how stupid I am! i completely miss the point! F U?" I could have prefaced all this with "its just a game" but that in itself also underlines the mental obliviousness these individuals exhibit by actually spending their lives finding purpose this way.
I can confirm that as of this morning....during a major arkfall the crystal was one-shotted in the first 2 minutes and the same thing happened - bugs kept on coming until the timer ran out - the matriarch kept respawning but there was no big big boss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myxaplix
I guess this happens if someone kills the crystal before the boss progression gets to the point where you are SUPPOSED to be able to destroy the crystal?!? I dunno - that part is conjecture.
Oh also there were no rewards given out at the end of the Arkfall
......... Hacker.Quote:
Originally Posted by tabularasa
The guy with all the I's in second there is #1 or 2 on all the Time Trials too, or was a few weeks ago, and not by a small amount of time either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qoreman
For what it seems, the bans are progressive up to permanent.Quote:
Originally Posted by ExcuseMyMandarin
They should just make it a permanent ban for the first offense. Do the same thing Microsoft does if you get caught cheating on Halo...Ban the player, the system, and anything attached to their name so they can't even play again if they buy another copy of the game.