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  • 04-24-2013, 06:43 PM
    Jonnina
    Should Trion not hold back Pc and xbox 360 Patches until the Ps3 patches available?
    I dont know whos at fault personally with the constant lack of patches being presented Ps3 gamers way, all I know is that I paid the same amount if not more ( ultimate edition ) than other gaming formats and demand the same treatment.

    Trion still cant put a date on ps3 patch updates whilst other formats ( even though patch is probably worse ) have received two patches. Im not eager to grab these updates due to the overwhelming negativity of complaints but it would be reassuring to have experience these things whether good or bad at the same time as the other formats.

    This puts a major question mark on future patches and indeed DLC content for ps3 owners and how long we will have to wait...

    Should all future patches for xbox 360 and Pc be held back until ps3 owners get their content delivered at the same time?

    I think it should in my opinion out of the interest of fairness. I dont want to be waiting an extra two weeks for a DLC because im a ps3 owner. I demand the same treatment as any other gaming format

    If one group doesn't get a patch or new content, no one should until its all released together in my opinion
  • 04-24-2013, 06:44 PM
    Lollie
    I'd be happy with that, they only patch to nerf fun/rewards and seem never to patch things that are actually bugs.
  • 04-24-2013, 06:49 PM
    Teizar
    If the patches actualy fixed things

    they seem to make things worse an worse every "patch" an im actualy happy that the consoles aren't getting this crap they call updates tell they are actualy improvements
  • 04-24-2013, 06:52 PM
    Lilan Kahn
    sux to be you.

    pc master race > console peasants
  • 04-24-2013, 06:56 PM
    GodSpark
    Effectiveness of the patches aside as they are not the issue here. Absolutely not. Why limit others because Sony limits it's customers? It would be completely unfair.
  • 04-24-2013, 06:57 PM
    Eisberg
    disagree. Why should the Xbox/PC people be held back just because of how Sony is ran? Sony can hold on to patches for indefinite time. So the vast majority should not be held back just because a minority decide to play their games on a PS3.
  • 04-24-2013, 06:58 PM
    Wtflag
    The way they are patching ... I prefer if PS3 users playtest it for the master PC race first.
  • 04-24-2013, 06:59 PM
    Jardian
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lilan Kahn View Post
    sux to be you.

    pc master race > console peasants

    Sadly Mistaken here kiddie. This is a console game only reason PC got it is welfare kindness as normal.

    PS3 isnt really behind Granted they have done some failed bug fixs and so on but thats really it no content or anything. 360 and PC was worse off codeing wise because this was a PS3 game to begin with and the others got added in later.
  • 04-24-2013, 06:59 PM
    Escalith
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lilan Kahn View Post
    sux to be you.

    pc master race > console peasants

    As if. It's game dependant.

    Heck if you ever played Black Ops 2. Best selling Call of Duty IIRC? Peaks at like 20-25k players on PC. Over 500k+ on peak hours on the XBOX.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:01 PM
    Lilan Kahn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Escalith View Post
    As if. It's game dependant.

    Heck if you ever played Black Ops 2. Best selling Call of Duty IIRC? Peaks at like 20-25k players on PC. Over 500k+ on peak hours on the XBOX.

    and MacDonald is a worlds best eating place THOUSANDS ARE EATING THERE!!!
  • 04-24-2013, 07:03 PM
    Lilan Kahn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jardian View Post
    Sadly Mistaken here kiddie. This is a console game only reason PC got it is welfare kindness as normal.

    PS3 isnt really behind Granted they have done some failed bug fixs and so on but thats really it no content or anything. 360 and PC was worse off codeing wise because this was a PS3 game to begin with and the others got added in later.

    yea thats why pc gets more bug fixs faster than :superior: consoles keep telling your self that over and over until you REALY believe it
  • 04-24-2013, 07:04 PM
    Eisberg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jardian View Post
    Sadly Mistaken here kiddie. This is a console game only reason PC got it is welfare kindness as normal.

    PS3 isnt really behind Granted they have done some failed bug fixs and so on but thats really it no content or anything. 360 and PC was worse off codeing wise because this was a PS3 game to begin with and the others got added in later.

    Yeah, going to need you to back that up with some references.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:05 PM
    GodSpark
    You all need to stop turning this into a Console vs PC crapshoot. Nobody wins when that happens. Keep the damn thread on topic.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:06 PM
    Escalith
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lilan Kahn View Post
    and MacDonald is a worlds best eating place THOUSANDS ARE EATING THERE!!!

    Point being made, some games are superior on PC. Some are superior on Console.
    Neither is better than the other, the player base is different, although it tends to overlap. :)

    And yes, just for your information, there's a reason why McDonalds is pretty much world wide, and the italian down on the road you live at isn't. Or chinese. You get the point.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:06 PM
    Beck
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lilan Kahn View Post
    and MacDonald is a worlds best eating place THOUSANDS ARE EATING THERE!!!

    Billions and Billions served
  • 04-24-2013, 07:07 PM
    Era
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jonnina View Post
    I dont know whos at fault personally with the constant lack of patches being presented Ps3 gamers way, all I know is that I paid the same amount if not more ( ultimate edition ) than other gaming formats and demand the same treatment.

    Trion still cant put a date on ps3 patch updates whilst other formats ( even though patch is probably worse ) have received two patches. Im not eager to grab these updates due to the overwhelming negativity of complaints but it would be reassuring to have experience these things whether good or bad at the same time as the other formats.

    This puts a major question mark on future patches and indeed DLC content for ps3 owners and how long we will have to wait...

    Should all future patches for xbox 360 and Pc be held back until ps3 owners get their content delivered at the same time?

    I think it should in my opinion out of the interest of fairness. I dont want to be waiting an extra two weeks for a DLC because im a ps3 owner. I demand the same treatment as any other gaming format

    If one group doesn't get a patch or new content, no one should until its all released together in my opinion

    Trion can't "put a date" on the patch updates because Sony is in charge of when the patches will be released. Trion is in all likelihood finished writing the patches on their end. I appreciate that you didn't know Sony has a quality control phase for patches to their content which means they always patch a couple weeks after Xbox and PC, but Trion can do nothing to stop this. You will get everything everyone else gets, just a couple weeks slower than everyone else. The only way to ensure everyone gets the same patches at the same time would be to hold back Xbox and PC patches until the Sony patches are ready, which spreads the suffering not alleviates it and doesn't get you anything sooner.

    tl;dr: They don't cut runners legs off just so everybody can compete in the Special Olympics.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:07 PM
    Jardian
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lilan Kahn View Post
    yea thats why pc gets more bug fixs faster than :superior: consoles keep telling your self that over and over until you REALY believe it

    Ummm you said it your self there. "MORE BUG FIXS" both xbox has PC had bugs PS3 didnt. PS3 has been running just fine less resets and so on so im still missing your points. Ohh and we have the same content lol.

    And that info can be backed right here search each one of the forums and you see who has had worse issues ROFFL.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:09 PM
    Lilan Kahn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Escalith View Post
    Point being made, some games are superior on PC. Some are superior on Console.
    Neither is better than the other, the player base is different, although it tends to overlap. :)

    And yes, just for your information, there's a reason why McDonalds is pretty much world wide, and the italian down on the road you live at isn't. Or chinese. You get the point.

    preety much all games are superior on a pc, buy a xbox gamepad and never care again
  • 04-24-2013, 07:10 PM
    Lilan Kahn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jardian View Post
    Ummm you said it your self there. "MORE BUG FIXS" both xbox has PC had bugs PS3 didnt. PS3 has been running just fine less resets and so on so im still missing your points. Ohh and we have the same content lol.

    And that info can be backed right here search each one of the forums and you see who has had worse issues ROFFL.

    Yup no bugs what so EVER on the ps3 version, pass on what ever your buying and share number for the dealer
  • 04-24-2013, 07:11 PM
    Eisberg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eisberg View Post
    Yeah, going to need you to back that up with some references.

    I didn't turn this to anything. I just want someone to backup their claim that Defiance was supposed to be a PS3 game, and the other got added on later. Nothing to do with PC vs Console, but just asking someone to backup their claim.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:11 PM
    GodSpark
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lilan Kahn View Post
    preety much all games are superior on a pc, buy a xbox gamepad and never care again

    That is an opinion and completely irrelevant to this topic. Go make your own PC vs Consoles thread if you insist on arguing pointlessly about it.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:12 PM
    DJTrig
    No,why should everybody else wait just because either Sony are messing with them or they are having problems running the patch on ps3.If i had got it for my PS3 (which i almost did due to the beta feeling a touch smoother) instead i would say the same.Longer waiting periods for consoles isn't a new thing,since PC usually gets patched early for most games.This time something as been set-up to shortcut through the usual red-tape (which could be the problem with Sony) and it is nice to be getting patched on time.

    Also,we only have one client patch as the rest are server side and i would guess they can't throw them on the PS3 due to not having the client patch yet.I do feel for you guys though and i hope you get sorted soon and that whatever the block is gets moved so you can get caught up sooner.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:13 PM
    Lilan Kahn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GodSpark View Post
    That is an opinion and completely irrelevant to this topic. Go make your own PC vs Consoles thread if you insist on arguing pointlessly about it.

    why don't you make a thread about making threads for the sake of making threads about threads?
  • 04-24-2013, 07:19 PM
    TH3STEVE
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jonnina View Post
    I dont know whos at fault personally with the constant lack of patches being presented Ps3 gamers way, all I know is that I paid the same amount if not more ( ultimate edition ) than other gaming formats and demand the same treatment.

    Trion still cant put a date on ps3 patch updates whilst other formats ( even though patch is probably worse ) have received two patches. Im not eager to grab these updates due to the overwhelming negativity of complaints but it would be reassuring to have experience these things whether good or bad at the same time as the other formats.

    This puts a major question mark on future patches and indeed DLC content for ps3 owners and how long we will have to wait...

    Should all future patches for xbox 360 and Pc be held back until ps3 owners get their content delivered at the same time?

    I think it should in my opinion out of the interest of fairness. I dont want to be waiting an extra two weeks for a DLC because im a ps3 owner. I demand the same treatment as any other gaming format

    If one group doesn't get a patch or new content, no one should until its all released together in my opinion

    I don't see a point in punishing other platforms for what is likely an issue because of Sony. The developers of the game certainly owe you ps3 players an in depth explanation as to why you are so far behind. I could see them rewarding your patience with a special ps3 bonus of some sort. Double XP for sometime, weapon skill etc. Holding back people that have nothing to do do with Sony, because of Sony, that doesn't make much sense.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:20 PM
    TheSavageSage
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lilan Kahn View Post
    yea thats why pc gets more bug fixs faster than :superior: consoles keep telling your self that over and over until you REALY believe it


    Cracks me up every time I read this kind of crap... Most people who own a console have a PC and vice versa. Now that the game has become stable it seems some of you have to find something to be hostile over. Does it make you feel superior using a PC? If so you lead a very sad life!
  • 04-24-2013, 07:21 PM
    darknessjw
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Escalith View Post
    As if. It's game dependant.

    Heck if you ever played Black Ops 2. Best selling Call of Duty IIRC? Peaks at like 20-25k players on PC. Over 500k+ on peak hours on the XBOX.

    Because CoD is game for childs and teens. Consoles are popular among boy childs especially xbox360

    No wonder

    @OP

    That is not PC or Xbox users fault, or Trions. It is Sony whos fault it is. Same problems all time when it comes to Sony and updating games.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:24 PM
    DejaVooDoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jonnina View Post
    I dont know whos at fault personally with the constant lack of patches being presented Ps3 gamers way, all I know is that I paid the same amount if not more ( ultimate edition ) than other gaming formats and demand the same treatment.

    Trion still cant put a date on ps3 patch updates whilst other formats ( even though patch is probably worse ) have received two patches. Im not eager to grab these updates due to the overwhelming negativity of complaints but it would be reassuring to have experience these things whether good or bad at the same time as the other formats.

    This puts a major question mark on future patches and indeed DLC content for ps3 owners and how long we will have to wait...

    Should all future patches for xbox 360 and Pc be held back until ps3 owners get their content delivered at the same time?

    I think it should in my opinion out of the interest of fairness. I dont want to be waiting an extra two weeks for a DLC because im a ps3 owner. I demand the same treatment as any other gaming format

    If one group doesn't get a patch or new content, no one should until its all released together in my opinion

    Hands down the most coherent, articulate thing I've ever seen a 6 year old write
  • 04-24-2013, 07:25 PM
    iUnR3aLz
    Absolutely not.

    They should have an ample team to deliver the PS3 patches on time.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:25 PM
    RegularX
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eisberg View Post
    disagree. Why should the Xbox/PC people be held back just because of how Sony is ran? Sony can hold on to patches for indefinite time. So the vast majority should not be held back just because a minority decide to play their games on a PS3.


    Doesn't really matter if it is how Sony is run, or Trion is doing the fixes, or somewhere in between - I don't get the OP's point of "fairness" here. I don't see how it is fair for someone on Xbox to not get a fix because there was some delay in the PC cycle, or PS3 users to not get a patch because Microsoft changed their certification screening or anything.

    It's not platform biased, just let fixes go out when they can go out. To whatever platform. If the reality of the situation is that it is faster for them to identify, patch and release on one platform first and then port - then fine. Whatever gets a better quality build out there, in general, the quickest.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:25 PM
    Escalith
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by darknessjw View Post
    Because CoD is game for childs and teens. Consoles are popular among boy childs especially xbox360

    No wonder

    @OP

    That is not PC or Xbox users fault, or Trions. It is Sony whos fault it is. Same problems all time when it comes to Sony and updating games.

    Honestly now. Saying CoD is a game for childs and teens is like saying MMO's are games for basement dwellers. =P
  • 04-24-2013, 07:25 PM
    FizzyMyNizzy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jonnina View Post
    I dont know whos at fault personally with the constant lack of patches being presented Ps3 gamers way, all I know is that I paid the same amount if not more ( ultimate edition ) than other gaming formats and demand the same treatment.

    Trion still cant put a date on ps3 patch updates whilst other formats ( even though patch is probably worse ) have received two patches. Im not eager to grab these updates due to the overwhelming negativity of complaints but it would be reassuring to have experience these things whether good or bad at the same time as the other formats.

    This puts a major question mark on future patches and indeed DLC content for ps3 owners and how long we will have to wait...

    Should all future patches for xbox 360 and Pc be held back until ps3 owners get their content delivered at the same time?

    I think it should in my opinion out of the interest of fairness. I dont want to be waiting an extra two weeks for a DLC because im a ps3 owner. I demand the same treatment as any other gaming format

    If one group doesn't get a patch or new content, no one should until its all released together in my opinion

    Going to have to say no, and no some more.

    Some people just want to get the rest of the world to burn with them side by side.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:25 PM
    Lilan Kahn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheSavageSage View Post
    Cracks me up every time I read this kind of crap... Most people who own a console have a PC and vice versa. Now that the game has become stable it seems some of you have to find something to be hostile over. Does it make you feel superior using a PC? If so you lead a very sad life!

    Yup i live a very sad life, having a pc i actually use for all my stuff rather than buying a watered down locked down linux toaster with a blueray drive.

    Enjoy playing in your walled gardens.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:28 PM
    darknessjw
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Escalith View Post
    Honestly now. Saying CoD is a game for childs and teens is like saying MMO's are games for basement dwellers. =P

    Well, not my fault young boys go all horny for easy shooters since MW1, no wonder
    And what is wrong about basement dwellers? They might create new human species who can see in dark when they long enough sit on dark
  • 04-24-2013, 07:32 PM
    Era
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Escalith View Post
    Honestly now. Saying CoD is a game for childs and teens is like saying MMO's are games for basement dwellers. =P

    MMOs ARE games for basement dwellers.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:34 PM
    Dr EveHill
    I am a ps3 user. Now that is out of the way.

    No don't hold back patches, if sony looks at a patch and says we veto your patch due to critical issues that would comprimise the integrety and security of our users. If they veto a patch because it has more bugs and would ruin the game for the users let pc and xbox deal with the issues all the time they will have to fix the original patch and others so it fixes the game.

    As I see it we can't get any patches because they all work only if the patch before it is dled, this lands on trion then for not having a suitable patch. Trion should maybe pause further patch deployment to get ps3 cought up but any new patches coming out should not have to wait on another platform.
  • 04-24-2013, 07:34 PM
    Eisberg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by darknessjw View Post
    Well, not my fault young boys go all horny for easy shooters since MW1, no wonder
    And what is wrong about basement dwellers? They might create new human species who can see in dark when they long enough sit on dark

    You know you have been playing PC games for a really long time when you see someone type in "MW1" and the first game that comes to mind is MechWarrior ;)
  • 04-24-2013, 07:38 PM
    Dr EveHill
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eisberg View Post
    You know you have been playing PC games for a really long time when you see someone type in "MW1" and the first game that comes to mind is MechWarrior ;)


    Haha that's always comes to mind for me too, god that was a awesome game back in the day, though the graphics suck at todays standards lmao
  • 04-24-2013, 07:43 PM
    LordRaymond
    Every fing PS3 Patch thread turns into a stupid console vs PC debate. Come on:(
  • 04-24-2013, 07:45 PM
    Lilan Kahn
    Dont start more whine threads about how you get treated as what you are second raters, and we wont have this problem no more
  • 04-24-2013, 07:46 PM
    Escalith
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Era View Post
    MMOs ARE games for basement dwellers.

    Now don't be mean. xD

    And to be quite frank. From a person that played MMO's, RPG's, FPS's and RTS's all alike.

    You might hate and despite the community of FPS games. About whiny children, or teens thinking they are awesome, or Emblems with male genitalia cause oh my god it's so funny amirite. About people that call others every swear word possible.

    But I, I reached the point where I prefer it. The general MMO/RPG community, while it can be quite nice, has so much backstabbery and drama, that if you get too involved you will eventually break contact with 95% of all players.

    At least I know the 13 year old calling me all the names his swag buddies taught him is honest about his feeling. He doesn't like me walking over him in score. He voices that, however rude, I just ignore it. And while there's still some sneakery and backstabbery, it's far, far, far less and far easier to detect.
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