Snipers need more spots to snipe from

Title says it all, there needs to be more places on maps with some varying degree of difficulty to get to IE the hop rock in observatory ( those who know about this know what i mean )

The tower in observatory is decent as well but with the short ladder people simply stealth, run across the map and blow your face in

The maps are tiny, the spawns are a little erratic, and without any defense against stealth shotgun outside constant mobility, you severely gimp long range players and cater so hard to close range...

Maybe increase stealths CD in PVP? or shorten the duration when entering pvp to 4 seconds ( very reasonable )

I myself use it as well but only for escaping in conjunction with the half dmg when shield breaks perk, and the run 45% faster when shield breaks.... but even so... its rarely enough... maybe 1 time out of 20 this method works in successfully getting away

im not saying break shotguns... or any other thing... but this combo has run rampant in pvp since launch... and i get there is a swarm of crap to deal with but seriously... the shotgun stealth stuff is gamebreaking...

i ran a shotgun stealth class for about 4 hours of pvp gameplay and stopped because it was too easy to rack up kills...

Its so 1 dimensional and 1 sided... and i hate that this games setup forces you to either join the crowd... or just get steamrolled

I don't think you're supposed to be finding a protected perch to snipe througout the match. Gameplay is very mobile and everyone gets a pair of good weapons of their choosing rather than one good and one poor weapon.

Snipe when enemies stop moving, move predictably through open terrain, or in a literal long-shot attempt to assist an ally who strayed too far from the group. In other situations, use your other gun.

Like Kiserai mentioned, the gameplay is very mobile. With that said sniping in PvP would hinder you useless with how it is played. Enemies don't stop moving for the most part at least in the few matches I've played in. Most people are using shotguns and if not shotguns other more mobile guns like an SMG.

I don't see sniping ever becoming a thing in PvP, maybe shadow wars but I'm not sure. You'd do better on the ground moving about even with all the ghosts.

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Originally Posted by Clown

Like Kiserai mentioned, the gameplay is very mobile. With that said sniping in PvP would hinder you useless with how it is played. Enemies don't stop moving for the most part at least in the few matches I've played in. Most people are using shotguns and if not shotguns other more mobile guns like an SMG.

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I take it you've not played many shooters if you think sniping isnt viable in pvp. Its not less viable in many high pace action shooters. Its just that in this game it isnt, due to poor implementation. That's all.

The problem is the pvp maps are very tight. They're perfect for shotguns, so that's why you see so many. Long range weapons are much less useful. Bigger maps with more open space would give long range weaponry a purpose. Consider that sniper is much more useful and shotgun much less in shadow wars.

Also, playing sniper, you still have to be mobile. If you try to find a spot to camp, you're gonna get nailed by someone sneaking up in stealth or by another sniper. Run, identify a target, kneel (if perked) and shoot, and run some more.

with the cloak the sniper it's not the best in pvp, especially since you have a very clear trail from where come the shoot.

on other note the pursuit for the sniper need to be redo 5000 kill with the other weapon are simple, for a sniper it's a pain...

oh god its battlelog all over again

Doesn't the cloak allow you to snipe from anywhere?

FWIW, I want more sniper hides and longer range for PvE.

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Originally Posted by Beldhan

with the cloak the sniper it's not the best in pvp, especially since you have a very clear trail from where come the shoot.

on other note the pursuit for the sniper need to be redo 5000 kill with the other weapon are simple, for a sniper it's a pain...

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I just hit 4000 bolt action sniper kills (pve) so sniping is not hard. Also, havent tried sniping yet in pvp but I think freight yard will be a good lomg range map. Was able to play a match or 2 before it was taken down.