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Again, they need to make the chat window resizable, and give us a PM/IM system (whatever they want to call it).
I want to be able to resize my chat window whatever size I want
I want to be able to move my chat window (mouse drag) to whatever screen location I want
I want to be able to send Private Messages/Instant Messages to players. Friends, Clanmates, and others.
In all honesty, I'm not sure if a chat overhaul will do all that much at this point. The entire playerbase is used to not using chat by now.
You may be right..I think there are a great many people who don't play the game because it might as well be a single player game. The game just does not have the social element many MMO players want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schwa
Here here! As an MMOer, I want those social elements. Not just that, but the social element builds community, helps coordination, lets you get help, advice, etc. Although, the first person shooter crowd probably just uses voice for coordination. Voice is usually very low in this game too. Oftentimes you can barely hear people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Snuffy
That's the thing. We've had a month to settle into the game and get used to its (lack of) social features. We've learned how to do everything on our own, even the co-op missions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whippersnapper
If they could magically flip a switch and give us one of the best chat systems in the world tomorrow, would it make all that much of a difference? We've learned how to do everything in silence, so the new systems (though I'm sure they'd be used somewhat) would seem just sort of... tacked-on.
The game's convinced us we don't need it now, so why would we need it soon?
I'd think it'd be cool if the chat popped up on screen like in phantasy star universe, make it easy to distinguish people and to read better. Of course an option to disable and enable that.
yes... its depressing to see NOTHING going on in the chat box except my desperate attempts at talking into the void...
YOU are right I solved my problem with the sucky game chat....I logged in once this week for about 15 min. Without a decent chat system I'm simply not playing the game and I can not recommend the game to any new players because of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schwa
I used to do this but gave up hoping chat will be "fixed"Quote:
Originally Posted by Tersidre
I wonder if chat will ever be fixed
I'm betting chat will be fixed for PC. Not so sure for consoles.Quote:
Originally Posted by OGkush
Well, Mouse jockeys' have a TeakSpeak3 server up and running with an unlimited room size. They have a channel just for Defiance. You can join the channel at: ts.mousejocks.com (there is no password)
I am in the USA and play on the PC EU server...due to my 11pm-4am PST play hours.
When I am at any arkfalls which have more than 5 players, I can "eavesdrop" on conversations in the Voice Chat system. They are usually speaking German,French, or some Russian/Polish/Estonia/??? language. I can talk and hear my voice echo back in the conversation. I never hear a reply so I don't know if anyone ever hears me.
Yeah, the voice chat is still badly borked.
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How long do you think it will be before we get one of those arbitrary blogs that state our concerns and then ramble on about random crap until they feel like we forgot the real problem, just to end it with "we're doing or best to fix this".
Either that or well get a 3hour patch for it just to have it removed right after we start to enjoy talking to eachother.
PS All you play it how it is or leave people. I blame you for this cookie cutting generation of gaming, complaints and feedback if listened too can enhance the dev teams outlook on a game most people dont want a clone system but are giving examples for the devs to take into account. Let the devs create, let the peopld that havd valid critisism complain, that is unless your enjoying your two cods a year with 15 copy cats.
Chat sucks in game FULL STOP!
Need to work on this alot if you want people and the community to actually work together in situations.
It's a simple yet over looked aspect of the game. at least mate the text you write not disappear after like 2 seconds.
What good is a chat if the game does a very poor job encouraging socializing and player interaction?
Don't blame the chat. Blame the game's design.
I blame both, at the same time!Quote:
Originally Posted by TwwiX
Blame whoever or whatever you want. It's not going to accomplish a thing since this developer has its collective head lodged up its ***. They could have addressed this issue months ago when it was brought up ad nauseum during the closed beta test but they chose to ignore most of the feedback from the testers. A simpleton with half a brain cell would have recognized it as an issue and that it would lead to backlash after the release. Looks like Trion managed to lower its standards for the people they hire even further from the norm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceberg
Could be worse, this company could be ran by Randy Pitchford and be having lawsuits filed against them for making a crappy game.Quote:
Originally Posted by TwwiX
I'd agree with you if this country's judiciary system had any integrity. Gearbox is going to have to deal with a settlement out court and a tarnished reputation among knowledgeable gamers i.e., not a ****ing thing. Business as usual shall commence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceberg
I logged in looked for chat ...chat still sucks logged out.
It is my hope that more and more people will comment on their desire for a working decent chat and that this thread be on the first page until chat is "FIXED" or the game shuts down completely or there are 10 other chat sucks threads on the first page of this forum also.
64/100.
This game will not recover. Layoffs incoming.
Sad.
I basically stopped playing because of the non existent chat. I like to socialize while I play and if I can't do that then I'll find another game where I can. I was hoping chat would have been improved by now :(
I do like to socialize, but I know all-too-well what chat looks like in other games:
An endless stream of cussing and abusive language, hate and racism, and of course spam - lots and lots of spam. :(
Defiance is refreshingly quiet and I like that.
But of course, if team/clan chat can be made more user-friendly, I would appreciate that too.
I'll take my chat loud and abusive if it means I can say "hey we need to focus on the motherlode, put the infector away and swap to overcharge" and they will actually see it.
Or
I can type "hey anyone else like X in the episode last night" and then have a fanboi/h8tr fest as people chime in...
If you want quiet, turn off a functional chat instead of applauding the quiescence created by a broken one.
On that note...thank god the OP brought this to Trion's attention, since I don't think this has been mentioned before in a barrage of other threads :-P
Ok maybe I am being a harpy but it's not FIXED yet so someone needs to harp. Might as well be me.Quote:
Originally Posted by HuntGod
i have same problem can be standing at demon ranch surpounded by players type something in and never get a responce turn voice chat on and get same results nothing but crickets
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Originally Posted by Neptonius
That's because there also in no PTT (Push to Talk) button or option, so everyone turns it off or mutes it, so they don't have to listen to mouthbreathers and guys getting *****ed at by their moms/dads/wives/husbands/house plants...
So we have non existent text chat and basically unuseable voice chat, because as annoying as h8trs and fanbois are in chat, listening to their cracking puberty rattled voices squeaking in my ear is worse.
Give it time..
The whole game dynamic would change with chat. Its the one thing that has kept me FROM playing the game. Yes I bought it but I will never use the cash shop, never recommend it to my friends and in general will play through the story and call it a day. Please add chat, socialization in MMO's is like 25% of the reason of calling it an MMO.
Yes, the whole dynamic would change, but not necessarily for the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbuck1984
Non-existent general chat is a blessing! :D
With almost 20 years of gaming experience, I can say that nothing good ever comes out general chat channels.
However, non-existent team/clan chat is a detriment and should be made more user-friendly.
Also, Defiance is not an MMO, it is a TPS - big difference.
If you want an MMO with MMO-like features you would have to play WoW, SWTOR, etc.
I would definitely like to see improvements in chat. I think this will improve the game's longevity significantly. Also, I would like mouth-breathers and other noisy people to bind their mic pick-ups to a button lol.
As long as it has squad VOIP I don't care about the general chat. It often ends up a cesspool. At least I can have some laughs with friends and squad members.
That still falls under the blanket complaint that "chat sucks."Quote:
Originally Posted by NightfallRob
This game... so much potential... wasted.
Chat is broken, cant text in there >.< i feel like im playing an offline-game :(
wait minute you meen to tell me it not solo game after all... :confused: and ben play it as solo game... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacky
Nani desa ka... What... :confused: ehhh what now do not seem like much of socialize mmo to me... :rolleyes:
Actually every dev ever interviewed calls it an mmo.A purely standard TPS wouldn't need to be online or be persistent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antimony
This is sold as an mmo and therefore needs to get its act together.
Go away kid ya botha me.Quote:
Originally Posted by NitroMidgets
oh and I didn't log in to game today.
It is an MMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antimony
"In Defiance, players embark on a journey into a futuristic online open-world shooter where the survival of Earth relies on their skills as an Ark Hunter, as they level up in massive co-op battles and fierce multiplayer combat. "
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