No, it's the whine-bag gamers like you who are killing the genre. People leave the game because you bring a stress level to it that takes away the fun and enjoyment a game is supposed to supply.
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Allowing the casual player to obtain everything seriously waters down the MMO genre because these games are supposed to be deep and last more than a few weeks. There are ways to please both and i feel game developers really need to start making games that cater for both.
I'm more of the opinion that the hardcore/casual dichotomy is causing more harm to gaming than the lack or streamlining of any particular type of content.
There is no us vs. them. What people refer to as "hardcore" or "casual" are two extremes on a variable spectrum. And very, very few players that sling mud are actually at the extreme they claim to represent in the non-debate.
It's like the nonsense in the console space-- 360 vs PS3.
Hardcore Gamers = small fraction of the community....casual gamers = most of the community, who do you think they care more about? This is a business, you cater to those who will make you the most money.
i really dont give a **** about anybodies stupid review, it dont mean **** and why do we need to see what you think about the game unless you are trying to impose your view onto others in a effort to try and cause other people to leave the game. i mean really if you dont like it than shut your mouth and dont let the door hit ya. save your so called reviews for your website not here. and for your group of geeks, running through games that fast and not slowing down and taking the time to enjoy games and stupid also.
not really interested in fan boy opinions and to be honest hardcore MMO'er are more important than you like to think. The best way is for us not to hate each other but for developers to see all views from Role players, casual players and hardcore players we all matter!
no mate I was not replying to you directly :-) er so reading your reply you agree with me? that we all matter? come on share the love and have a group hug :-p
ehehehe... Ummm I think, and this is just a thought, what Acelee was trying to get across in all that angry typing was that review site crew commin' in here promoting their stuff was more the issue than whether its a positive/negative over Defiance.
Granted, I will read game reviews both pre and post purchase, but I've too often found that the so called "professional" reviews are greatly slanted and end up more of the typical 3-seconds-to-assume-everything style. Reviewers are simply placing their opinion of the game out there for others to see, and like all opinions they're free to do so. However, they're almost never 100% accurate and quite often have reasons behind why they gave the thumbs up/down that weigh more against personal issues/professional issues that what the tested piece offered at time of review.
Think about it. How many games out there that you liked got crap reviews simply due to being released by an absolute unknown in the game developer community? How many games out there you got based on stellar reviews because they were coming out of some AAA studio and end up being a serious rehash, phoned in style of game play and execution?
I've learned in the not so long time of 12+ MMO years that in the end only "I" know what "I" like and only "I" can make that decision no matter how esteemed the reviewer is. Listening to others without trying for yourself is pretty narrow minded. Again, that's just an opinion. I'm sure there are many sheople out there that enjoy being led in certain directions when making financial decisions. Some of us aren't.