Xbox Players I need you to be honest with your self.

I research and look up a game before I get it. I dont get it until about 1-2 weeks after launch. This was my first mmo and my first rpg game. Its a great game.

Me understand you no like grammar.

I also checked it out online first, and it looked cool. I am enjoying my purchase. I can tell you from experience (as others can too), there have been (and are) worse games you could pay $60 for. $60 and hours and hours (enjoyment optional - chosen option!). :)

This is an MMO???? Whaaaaaaa !!! I thought it was a dance on vending machine whilst taunting endlessly (dovmwte). Thanks for pointing that out for me.

I just want to know why everyone always drops the COD bomb. Believe me, Trion, hell any dev./publisher, would kill to have one game with CoD's sales numbers. I've only ever played one CoD game so I'm no expert on the series but I know a quality product when I see one and I know that, while they may not be as innovative as all their many haters like to point out, they certainly put out a polished product.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kaos

I just want to know why everyone always drops the COD bomb. Believe me, Trion, hell any dev./publisher, would kill to have one game with CoD's sales numbers. I've only ever played one CoD game so I'm no expert on the series but I know a quality product when I see one and I know that, while they may not be as innovative as all their many haters like to point out, they certainly put out a polished product.

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lol yeah that's why the nubs don't like the cod series. 1, chances they got killed and teabagged soon as the game started. 2, they wish their favorite franchise could sell half the numbers of the cod series does every year that a copy comes out.

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Originally Posted by Moosk

I knew what I was getting into. I played me some WoW before this. This game just needs more content!!! MOAR!!!!!!

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because of all the content wow has right? "lets take these fight mechanics.. and copy different bits of them into other bosses, then.. in a few years, we can just copy our original raid content completely and sell that! Also.. please cut/paste pokemon and kungfu panda into our game, because nobody has copied something before!"

wow is a great game, if you have the visual acuity of a 4yo and that game happened to be out when you were "growing up"

past it's vanilla it was crap, it graphics outdated, and for $15 a month it certainly could have offered much more, Rift has shown us that, all while requiring a lower hardware minimum and costing less per month.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kaos

I just want to know why everyone always drops the COD bomb. Believe me, Trion, hell any dev./publisher, would kill to have one game with CoD's sales numbers. I've only ever played one CoD game so I'm no expert on the series but I know a quality product when I see one and I know that, while they may not be as innovative as all their many haters like to point out, they certainly put out a polished product.

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its not hard to reskin a game over and over and over and over and over and over and over.. hell there devs have it easy.

Pretty funny that someone getting all demeaning and suggesting people dont know what an MMO is doesnt know the difference between an FPS and a TPS

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Originally Posted by KOLZ

lol yeah that's why the nubs don't like the cod series. 1, chances they got killed and teabagged soon as the game started. 2, they wish their favorite franchise could sell half the numbers of the cod series does every year that a copy comes out.

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yeah.. we wish we could pay for the EXACT same engine every year for another round of non-teamwork related "fps" on maps soo small it's like a paintball match in a closet...cod sales are no different than halo, and by extension, xbox sales (insert any product people buy en mass just because it is overhyped.) a player, and consumer who has broadened his/her gaming library and experience would know better.

if you like to have nothing but chaotic infantile screaming with explosions and infinite spawn with no real goal in mind, play cod

if you like other games where the objective demands teamwork to attain, has a dynamic battlefield and life has enough value to warrant not dying alot (tactical) then by all means, play any number of better suited games, like BF series... or even some of the earlier SOCOM (who started online tactical shooters for consoles).

I myself prefer a more dynamic game, CoD is and always has been soo mind-numbingly easy to play, I used to top charts using guitar controllers just because (do not tilt for "star power", this will have you taring up and spinning like some nutjob).

it boggles me how people could let their kids throw money at CoD games still.

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Originally Posted by Mirimon

because of all the content wow has right? "lets take these fight mechanics.. and copy different bits of them into other bosses, then.. in a few years, we can just copy our original raid content completely and sell that! Also.. please cut/paste pokemon and kungfu panda into our game, because nobody has copied something before!"

wow is a great game, if you have the visual acuity of a 4yo and that game happened to be out when you were "growing up"

past it's vanilla it was crap, it graphics outdated, and for $15 a month it certainly could have offered much more, Rift has shown us that, all while requiring a lower hardware minimum and costing less per month.

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Well, thanks for comparing my "visual acuity" to that of a four year old. People like you make forums great.
And there is a reason i put PLAYED WoW. I got over it.
This game does need more content, not because it isn't a great game, but if they don't put in something the population in this game will drop more and more with each passing week.
I for one do not want to see a game I enjoy immensely go down the toilet due to a large amount of the game's population not playing anymore because they aren't keeping the game going and people lose interest.
You are just like the people who attack this game. Whenever someone brings up another game that you apparently don't like, you attack not only the game but the people who play it. Way to have class bro

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Originally Posted by Moosk

Well, thanks for comparing my "visual acuity" to that of a four year old. People like you make forums great.
And there is a reason i put PLAYED WoW. I got over it.
This game does need more content, not because it isn't a great game, but if they don't put in something the population in this game will drop more and more with each passing week.
I for one do not want to see a game I enjoy immensely go down the toilet due to a large amount of the game's population not playing anymore because they aren't keeping the game going and people lose interest.

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I agree with you there, and said so during alpha/beta.. even in the face of the ignorant who claimed I could not have cleared allthe content soo fast.

that's something they should have put much more thought into.. "when I launch this.. will it last long enough for us to release content, or will there be a massive gap and I risk losing players between (while not having to deal with subs is an issue, the potential for people to not purchase anymore "microtransactions" is still there and relative).

aside from its bugs, and other serious flaws (voip) the lack of content on the installation of this game is staggering to a person who plays pc/ps3 (normal for those who play xbox only and wouldn't know decent game length).

I researched the game a lot before buying. I waited to buy it for a while. I got it the same day the first episode of the show aired. Read the mediocre reviews. Watched videos, Decided to take a chance since I wanted something different. Glad I did. Having fun with it.

You proved your point and I'm totally agreeing with you, too bad that other people don't see it that way.

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Originally Posted by Zoldran

Honestly, did you read the game or even look it up before buying this game?

Do you understand this is a MMO and not the regular FPS?

Do you know what that title means when they say MMO?

Trion Is a MMO dev and all around Mostly PC game dev.

They are doing some not seen EVER. Putting a Game and Tv show on the same lines and still not killing the storyline.

Did you just buy this because it was new and your friend halfway pushed you to get it?

Do you understand games now video game are starting to evolve in to something more than Shinier explosions?

Games Like COD that are off the shelf playable are good for two weeks, then most players leave. Because there is no substances to keep players there. Then they have to make something shinier to get their attention again. This has Been sometimes a Huge Money maker for short spurts. But ultimately cost the Dev and manufacter to keep this process going.

Yes, pretty much they make a new one each year. But the consant hire and fire doors are revolving too quickly. For anyone to really put out something more the FPS or RPG made by a D&D dungeon master then fired to hire a new one that kills the storyline halfway through.

So please Understand Trion Is Hitting three platforms at one time. This is even starting to make the rumors of the new console online only more realistic. So please understand this game is going through a ground breaking process. If you dont like mmos, thats cool this is not your thing. But please stop trying to ruin it for Players now and new ones to come.

Thank you

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Originally Posted by Zoldran

Games Like COD that are off the shelf playable are good for two weeks, then most players leave. Because there is no substances to keep players there. Then they have to make something shinier to get their attention again.

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Most players leave after two weeks? COD online is far from a ghost town.

There's usually 400-500k people 'playing' BO2 online on XBL during peak hours. That figure has been pretty constant from November till now. There's still a majority % of buyers who avoid online play, but the number of active players has pretty much been going up in every new version of the COD games, which has been one of their goals - to get more offline players transitioned into online players.

The last 4 COD games are all ranked in the top 20 most played games on XBL. There's more people playing MW2 online right now than Defiance, and that game was released in 2009.

I'm just stating the obvious: COD's online player base is not fading, it's been growing each year.

If this game wasn't so buggy maybe there would be a greater chance for it to see a spike in sales if the TV show gains more traction.

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Originally Posted by GlavinChris

I am honest with myself when I say that I stopped reading after the first sentence.

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I didn't even read any of his text, just saw the title and guessed PC ****** and came to look at the other comments lol

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Originally Posted by GlavinChris

I am honest with myself when I say that I stopped reading after the first sentence.

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Exactly.

Also, lol at this guy saying people stop playing the CoD games after a few weeks. Dude seriously has no idea what the hell he's yammering about.

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Originally Posted by Zoldran

Honestly, did you read the game or even look it up before buying this game?

Do you understand this is a MMO and not the regular FPS?

Do you know what that title means when they say MMO?

Trion Is a MMO dev and all around Mostly PC game dev.

They are doing some not seen EVER. Putting a Game and Tv show on the same lines and still not killing the storyline.

Did you just buy this because it was new and your friend halfway pushed you to get it?

Do you understand games now video game are starting to evolve in to something more than Shinier explosions?

Games Like COD that are off the shelf playable are good for two weeks, then most players leave. Because there is no substances to keep players there. Then they have to make something shinier to get their attention again. This has Been sometimes a Huge Money maker for short spurts. But ultimately cost the Dev and manufacter to keep this process going.

Yes, pretty much they make a new one each year. But the consant hire and fire doors are revolving too quickly. For anyone to really put out something more the FPS or RPG made by a D&D dungeon master then fired to hire a new one that kills the storyline halfway through.

So please Understand Trion Is Hitting three platforms at one time. This is even starting to make the rumors of the new console online only more realistic. So please understand this game is going through a ground breaking process. If you dont like mmos, thats cool this is not your thing. But please stop trying to ruin it for Players now and new ones to come.

Thank you

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1. yes i did.

2. very much so

3. Massive Multiplayer ONline duh.

4. no really?

5. very much so this is my first console MMO.

6. yes and i also read into this game.

7. tell CoD that.

I didn't know squat about the game, someone just mentioned it, sounded interesting. So i got in on that last beta weekend and checked it out, thought it was decent and bought it. I did have serious concerns though with Trion not being a console company and only having experience in the PC space. So when the game blew chunks out of the gate there like it did, i wasn't shocked. I had expected it.

However I am disappointed with the amount of new content being added to the game and how small the progression is. I've got about 160 hours in and am level 1300ish and about ready to hang up my character. I'm not into grinding the same thing over and over just to get a tiny incremental stat bump, it's not enough of a pay off for me. On the other hand though, it's not like there's anything else coming until GTA5 that i'm interested in playing so i'll probably stick with it for a while just for lack of anything else to play, not because i actually love the game.

you got a lot further then I did.

Sounds to me like TC's dad had a sit down with him and somehow, for some reason, he's trying to transfer his lesson learned...here...?

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Originally Posted by GlavinChris

I am honest with myself when I say that I stopped reading after the first sentence.

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yup bored after another self help thread I will rant to make myself feel like I am a boss.

yes, i studied the game before i bought it. Read the previews in Game Informer, researched online about it to. I checked it out cuz i thought it was neat that a game would be tied in with a tv show. This is my first MMO, but i pretty much basically knew what i was getting into.