Message to "Defenders of Defiance"

I still enjoy the game due to playing it with friends. Sometimes we screw around doing silly things but other times we do Arkfalls. About twenty minutes ago pulled off 3.2 million damage at a Hellbug Major using only a Wolfhound

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Originally Posted by Schnibbly

Now we all know this game has cool details, but really? You guys act like your still REALLY enjoying this game.

Now out of curiosity, I ask why? Is it that you play with your friends? The lack of content has stopped me from playing for quite some time.

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Ah another one of those people that spend over 15 straight hours everyday on one game religiously and finds no content..Amazing how that works. ;)

I enjoy it because I am sick of orcs and wizards. My all time favorite MMO is Star Wars Galaxies, and this game kind of reminds me of the days when I played my non Jedi classes in SWG. I can see me playing this game for a long time to come. Besides, I played Rift for a couple of years and I know Trion will make Defiance a great game eventually.

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Originally Posted by Numina

I would be enjoying Defiance right now but I'm also a full time college student, and this is the last week of the semester so right now while I should be working on putting together a presentation of a project for tomorrow morning, I am instead procrastinating, reading these boards and checking different vendor specials in-game.

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The way college should be!

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Originally Posted by Schnibbly

Now we all know this game has cool details, but really? You guys act like your still REALLY enjoying this game.

Now out of curiosity, I ask why? Is it that you play with your friends? The lack of content has stopped me from playing for quite some time.

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There's no act. The gameplay is enjoyable, even just simply roaming reminds me of the fun I had in Mercenaries on the xbox. I'm usually a hardcore pvper and raider but I still have fun running through co-op maps and the overly limited PvP Defiance has.

The game needs work but to be honest, no other game delivers this kind of gameplay in an online environment. Personally if I had a PS3 I'd be playing Dust514 more than this.

Plus, this game just fits well with me, not sure why. Just very keen to see where they go with this, have high hopes but little expectation.

I tear the game apart because of its incomplete design, though I enjoy playing it as nothing more than a guilty pleasure. That's absolutely the only way I can defend the game: a guilty pleasure.

I will say, though, the korean grindfest that is 2500+ is not a good solution to the current state of the game. The developers need to reexamine what they want from players that have finished the "tutorial" of the game's storyline, and implement content that acts as a legitimate challenge to those players. Not just bigger numbers.

Not the ******** gold star co-op missions or the laughable difficulty of pretty much everything else currently in the game.

Keep in mind I do not want multi-tier raiding in this game, nor am I some super-hardcore MLG GAMAR. I simply want the developers to finish what they started, especially since the game's prototype is such a solid idea.

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Originally Posted by Myst

The way college should be!

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Indeed!! Are you a fellow procrastinator, Ark Hunter?!

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Originally Posted by Shada Mori

Because I don't see the game as having a "lack of content" .. it has about as much as most MMOs I've ever played (which includes every major MMO since UO..) .. let me explain. People say "Psshh, this game has raids, and PVP and blah blah .." about games like WOW .. but break down the end game of those games.. what do you do? Ultimately you grind the same raids over and over and over till you get gear. Thats what happened in GWs, GW2, SWTOR, DAOC, EQ, EQ2, etc. Ultimately.. you end up repeating the same events towards one goal. Stuff.

Now I am sure people will chime in here and say "yeah but you don't fight the same four mobs over and over.."! Don't you though? I mean you can dress it up as an orc warrior or gnoll fighter or whatever you want to call it ... its a berk swinging at you with a sword. Pretty terrain and a ton of zones are fine and all I guess too .. expect how often do you go back to those zones once you actually out level them other than on an alt and for that matter, how much time do you truely spend looking at scenery?

Why I like Defiance is I can log in and work towards "stuff" in a much wider variety of ways, because Key-codes, even though they have made them a bit harder to get, can still be acquired in alot of different ways. I can run Co-ops, I can do ark-falls, I can revisit mines and farms... I can even still get them from emergencies via breaking down loot. Ultimately, I can get the goal we all actually are after in MMOs .. stuff.. by just doing random stuff. I never have to repeat my actions. I don't have to find a massive raid, I don't have to paint by numbers my way through a dungeon, and I don't have to worry about 'maximizing' my character either. I have the freedom to play my way and still prosper as a character. Thats freaking awesome to me.

On top of that its the first in a long line of MMos to try the twitch play and really get it. Its the only one I can remember since really Fallen Earth or DDO where I felt my hand eye coordination actually meant something rather then stupid mechanics.

So do I genuinely like Defiance and am I genuinely still enjoying myself after months... cause yes, I was an alpha tester... of play? Yep yep and yep.

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I agree with everything you said

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Originally Posted by Numina

Indeed!! Are you a fellow procrastinator, Ark Hunter?!

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Was, I somehow made it out alive :p

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Originally Posted by Myst

Was, I somehow made it out alive :p

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This gives me hope for the future, lol!

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Originally Posted by Numina

This gives me hope for the future, lol!

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Lol well then good luck and have fun!

After about 80 hours of play time, I actually AM still enjoying this game. It's a compound of many things, from the random assistance from other players, to playing with my brother. From the pursuit of more guns, to trophies, to finishing contracts and pursuits, to lore. I enjoy the PvP, and co-op missions and all that. I look forward to the future, and I love the tie-ins with the show. But most importantly, I enjoy playing Defiance because of the personal narrative I write in my head while playing. It's fun for me to come in first for a major arkfall, because it makes me think that maybe, my character is one of the best arkhunters out there. Sadly, I may never get my character crossed over into the show, but it's not gonna stop me from trying, nor from having a good time. At the very least, I want to try being an extra in the show when they film season 2 (I act and live near the filming site) because that would be rad.

Actually, Maybe the biggest thing as to why I'm enjoying the game still is because I can count on one hand the number of bugs I've personally run into, and it wouldn't be a full hand.

Could be because I haven't been around long, but the game is fun and offers more than one way to grind. Also, I have a life and it takes me more than 3 weeks to grind through everything I'm interested in when playing an MMO.

I'm not playing for hours on end like I was a few weeks ago, but I'm still loving Defiance. I never planned for this game to be a major time sink and the fact I can just jump in for an hour or so aday and find something to do that wont take hours to complete is refreshing in an mmo. I'm looking forward to new content and when it comes will probably increase my playtime abit before going back to my hour or so aday again until further content appears. I see this game as a fun, casual but long term mmo that I can see me playing for some time to come.

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Originally Posted by Myst

Lol well then good luck and have fun!

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You too :)

Sure there is glitches, there are bugs, servers sometimes time-out, missions cant be finished, framerate drops in crowded places, enemies get repetitive and the graphics doesnt seem to match with other of my PS3-games.

But i have great friends to play with, there is enough content in different sort of missions, Time Trials, Hotshots, Rampages, Arkfalls, pursuits, contracts, loot etc etc. My 'complaints' can (almost all) be fixed, this game has definitely potential. I got hours of gameplay into it and plan to do play a whole lot more, I'm hooked for sure! This game was most certainly worth the money i paid for it, even better, i will support this game and get the paid DLC's as well. The basics of the game are great and things can only get better. I LOVE IT!

ZZZzzzZZZzzz....

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Originally Posted by Shada Mori

Because I don't see the game as having a "lack of content" .. it has about as much as most MMOs I've ever played (which includes every major MMO since UO..) .. let me explain. People say "Psshh, this game has raids, and PVP and blah blah .." about games like WOW .. but break down the end game of those games.. what do you do? Ultimately you grind the same raids over and over and over till you get gear. Thats what happened in GWs, GW2, SWTOR, DAOC, EQ, EQ2, etc. Ultimately.. you end up repeating the same events towards one goal. Stuff.

Now I am sure people will chime in here and say "yeah but you don't fight the same four mobs over and over.."! Don't you though? I mean you can dress it up as an orc warrior or gnoll fighter or whatever you want to call it ... its a berk swinging at you with a sword. Pretty terrain and a ton of zones are fine and all I guess too .. expect how often do you go back to those zones once you actually out level them other than on an alt and for that matter, how much time do you truely spend looking at scenery?

Why I like Defiance is I can log in and work towards "stuff" in a much wider variety of ways, because Key-codes, even though they have made them a bit harder to get, can still be acquired in alot of different ways. I can run Co-ops, I can do ark-falls, I can revisit mines and farms... I can even still get them from emergencies via breaking down loot. Ultimately, I can get the goal we all actually are after in MMOs .. stuff.. by just doing random stuff. I never have to repeat my actions. I don't have to find a massive raid, I don't have to paint by numbers my way through a dungeon, and I don't have to worry about 'maximizing' my character either. I have the freedom to play my way and still prosper as a character. Thats freaking awesome to me.

On top of that its the first in a long line of MMos to try the twitch play and really get it. Its the only one I can remember since really Fallen Earth or DDO where I felt my hand eye coordination actually meant something rather then stupid mechanics.

So do I genuinely like Defiance and am I genuinely still enjoying myself after months... cause yes, I was an alpha tester... of play? Yep yep and yep.

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agree! remember, its an MMO!! they are all the same!!! you play tons of hours to get new guns and stuff. its the main reason! **** story, **** everything! its an MMO!!!

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Originally Posted by lauta55

agree! remember, its an MMO!! they are all the same!!! you play tons of hours to get new guns and stuff. its the main reason! **** story, **** everything! its an MMO!!!

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Heh, not quite my point, and I happen to think Defiance has a good story personally, plus it will continue to evolve. I am one of the people that actually reads the data-recorders we hunt for. But what it all comes down to in MMOs is funny enough .. we are running around looking for gear. Its what raiding is about, its what most content in these games are about, and if you doubt that.. just look how many blow up threads there are everytime they make the slightest change to the loot mechanics.

I play most nights and im still enjoying the game loads, ive completed most side missions and just like trying to complete the challenges now.

No plans do do a quitter on it or moan about it, as its a work in progress with hopefully better content to come.

This is why I play Defiance.

1. It's fun, plain and simple.
2. I have friends to play with everyday. Never a dull moment.
3. I haven't played 200+ hours in a month because I have a life. "Lack of content" is not an issue for me.
4. I haven't seen as many bugs as everyone else claims.

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Originally Posted by Nmalthus

I enjoy it because I do. That is all that matters.

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And as do I. I have finished almost all the side missions and will go back and do the story a 2nd time. After that who knows. I am grinding up Combat Shotguns and SMGs to 20 slowly. Then plan on ARs and Snipers.

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Originally Posted by Phrase Universe

This is why I play Defiance.

1. It's fun, plain and simple.
2. I have friends to play with everyday. Never a dull moment.
3. I haven't played 200+ hours in a month because I have a life. "Lack of content" is not an issue for me.
4. I haven't seen as many bugs as everyone else claims.

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Well said...This sums it up for me as well

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Originally Posted by Schnibbly

Now we all know this game has cool details, but really? You guys act like your still REALLY enjoying this game.

Now out of curiosity, I ask why? Is it that you play with your friends? The lack of content has stopped me from playing for quite some time.

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Because I like the game play, I like TPS games, I played Global Agenda for a long time and it had far-far-far less content than this game.

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Originally Posted by Phrase Universe

This is why I play Defiance.

1. It's fun, plain and simple.
2. I have friends to play with everyday. Never a dull moment.
3. I haven't played 200+ hours in a month because I have a life. "Lack of content" is not an issue for me.
4. I haven't seen as many bugs as everyone else claims.

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I am enjoying the game... not sure why that seems so shocking to OP. There's some bad stuff but also lots of good stuff.

The biggest problem with Defiance is that different players came to the game with very different expectations. Some are shooter people. Some are MMO people. Some are RPG people. While Defiance attempts to bridge these 3 genres, it has done so with different levels of success.

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Originally Posted by Schnibbly

Now we all know this game has cool details, but really? You guys act like your still REALLY enjoying this game.

Now out of curiosity, I ask why? Is it that you play with your friends? The lack of content has stopped me from playing for quite some time.

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When the game came out I liked shooting things and people that aren't me.

Now that it's been out a while I still enjoy shooting things and people that aren't me.

Az

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Originally Posted by Schnibbly

Now we all know this game has cool details, but really? You guys act like your still REALLY enjoying this game.

Now out of curiosity, I ask why? Is it that you play with your friends? The lack of content has stopped me from playing for quite some time.

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I'm no defender of this game, not at all, but i do still enjoy it a lot despite its many many many flaws and missing features, maybe because i only play it casually so i didn't yet burn through the (lets be honest) very little content (for an MMO) that this game provides.

If quitting may I have your stuff? Scrip too.

k. Thx.

is it possible to condense these threads into one?

The reason I keep playing is not only because of friends, but because of those lulzy moments where you're pinned down, dying, and it looks pretty hopeless, and then suddenly the ******y hero this world needs but doesn't deserve comes flying through in his Camaro and runs everything over, saving you in the process. Priceless.

Ive been playing pretty much everyday for the past week and a half. main quest is progressed to San Francisco, I've done mt tam and Madera pursuits. Done a little more than 1/4 of the side quests. Just broke ego 1000 last night.

For people blowing through all the content, maybe take a little break? if you like to marathon and get through all the content, you did that on purpose right?

I don't know how long it will take to finish everything, but I'm sure it will be 100+ hrs, easily more.

I like to shoot things after a hard day at work while drinking a beer. Defiance allows me to shoot things. And even if no "real" DLC has dropped yet, the contracts give me specific things to shoot.

It's pretty simple. I'm in it for the long haul.

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Originally Posted by Schnibbly

Now we all know this game has cool details, but really? You guys act like your still REALLY enjoying this game.

Now out of curiosity, I ask why? Is it that you play with your friends? The lack of content has stopped me from playing for quite some time.

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Everyone has their type of game that they like. This game might not be the game for you. Lack of content? You are always engage in this game, theres always something to do. Yes this game still lack SOME of the promised content but give it time and this will be one of the best games. Defiance is still not finished and if you think that this is all the game has to offer then you're wrong.