So the Devs started to take notice

on how much the game is lacking...

http://community.defiance.com/en/201...herefore-i-am/

Out of some of the suggestions they read for PVP - what would you like to see added in the most?

Some highlights :

Player vs Player:
- More settings = Ability to limit weapons, powers, EGO Rating / Perks
- MORE MAPS! (Didn’t see this one coming)
- Better Loot that’s unique to PvP
- Vehicle based PvP
- Spectator Mode
- Private Matches (Clan vs. Clan)
- Tournament system

Also:

Open World PvP:
Specific zones that are “contested” or similar, in which have the option to become flagged for PvP against any players in that region who aren’t grouped with you or in your clan. Duels, w/ option to bet scrip/resources/items on duel (not required)


I personally want to see it all, but Vehicle based PVP would be amazing and my #1 pick. Mostly that kind of combat would be cool as vehicles are used in the show, but it would give more meaning to them in the game. (honestly just teleport to where you want to go because driving is a boring.. i mean drive here and level up your car? not fun)
On top of that, get more bang for your buck on buying vehicles (with in game and real cash) if there were game modes you could use them in PVP and not just the standard 4-wheeler.. + it would make perks that are vehicle based more worthy of putting on.

What do you guys want? (of course this is stuff they should put in AFTER they get PVP in a good, hack free, working state)

When I got the game I burned through the story hoping to get a cerberus vehicle.. Only after I did, I realized that Cerbs are Coop map and PVP specific.. I was disappointed.. But, in fairness, cerbs would be pretty rediculous in Arkfalls.. Well, if they weren't made of cardboard, duct tape, and plastic wrap that is.. It might be placebo, but it feels like they are more fragile than the ATVs..

Back on topic.... I did like a lot of what I saw.. Both PVP and grouping/clan parts.. >.> My 2 man clan is gonna have its own base! Granted it goes live.. I made it so people would stop spamming me with random clan invites..

started to take notice? wouldnt say that, Pvp pursuits are still incomplete able, and those continue to get discarded as a minor issue, not to mention c&h.

Sorry, but trion is just listing what people want to hear at this point.

Not to mention the Ego rating brackets they spoke off, made it painfully clear they are way out of synch.

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Originally Posted by Munx

started to take notice? wouldnt say that, Pvp pursuits are still incomplete able, and those continue to get discarded as a minor issue, not to mention c&h.

Sorry, but trion is just listing what people want to hear at this point.

Not to mention the Ego rating brackets they spoke off, made it painfully clear they are way out of synch.

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Yes i did say this is stuff they need to add after they get the game to work right in the first place (or its all just a lost cause anyway)

I am aware that they are saying what we need to hear, but if they dont follow through - Trion will be more than likely ruined.
This is only their 2nd game, and it wouldnt be good to fail the community or even SyFi for that matter.

why do mods erase thread for no reason? at least lock a thread if it gets derailed?

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Originally Posted by Upinya Slayin

why do mods erase thread for no reason? at least lock a thread if it gets derailed?

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Instead of saying that you could say what you would like to see brought to PVP

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Originally Posted by BetaChapel

on how much the game is lacking...



Out of some of the suggestions they read for PVP - what would you like to see added in the most?

Some highlights :

Player vs Player:
- More settings = Ability to limit weapons, powers, EGO Rating / Perks
- MORE MAPS! (Didn’t see this one coming)
- Better Loot that’s unique to PvP
- Vehicle based PvP
- Spectator Mode
- Private Matches (Clan vs. Clan)
- Tournament system

Also:

Open World PvP:
Specific zones that are “contested” or similar, in which have the option to become flagged for PvP against any players in that region who aren’t grouped with you or in your clan. Duels, w/ option to bet scrip/resources/items on duel (not required)


I personally want to see it all, but Vehicle based PVP would be amazing and my #1 pick. Mostly that kind of combat would be cool as vehicles are used in the show, but it would give more meaning to them in the game. (honestly just teleport to where you want to go because driving is a boring.. i mean drive here and level up your car? not fun)
On top of that, get more bang for your buck on buying vehicles (with in game and real cash) if there were game modes you could use them in PVP and not just the standard 4-wheeler.. + it would make perks that are vehicle based more worthy of putting on.

What do you guys want? (of course this is stuff they should put in AFTER they get PVP in a good, hack free, working state)

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I disagree with everything in that post except for the maps. we need new maps. everything else is just a bad idea

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Originally Posted by Upinya Slayin

I disagree with everything in that post except for the maps. we need new maps. everything else is just a bad idea

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Right thanks for elaborating on that.
I dont see how anything added to this lackluster broken pvp is a bad idea

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Player vs Player:
- More settings = Ability to limit weapons, powers, EGO Rating / Perks
- MORE MAPS! (Didn’t see this one coming)
- Better Loot that’s unique to PvP
- Vehicle based PvP
- Spectator Mode
- Private Matches (Clan vs. Clan)
- Tournament system

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Nothing should be limited in PvP. w/o any ego abilities its gonna turn into a long range everyone sniping halo 4-ish Team sniper game. maps aren't built to support anything else w/o the ability to move undetected/ with distractions/ or faster then normal (blur, decoy, cloak). not to mention it'll only lead to more grenade spam

PvP only loot will force grinders and farmers into PvP mode to earn things they wouldn't use which emans the quality of game will go down and leachers will go up

vehicle based PvP? so you want twisted metal? you want halo style driving tanks and gunners? and flying banshees? this PvP is fun because its different and not like CoD and Halo.

Spectator Mode? nah, it'll just mean people won't spawn and will wathc others and call out positions to teammates. again ruining the game

Private Matches? haven't seen it done well in any game. plus will lead to boosters

Tournament System? Nah it will only lead to people making this game stupid. being cheap and worrying more about W/L and KDR then about having fun.

the game is fun right now because people don't camp, worry about KDR, and aren't too cheap for the sake of their profile. no need to be majorly competitive. and the PvP is a bonus. the game's meat and potatoes is PvE. your trying to make this halo or COD.

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Player vs Player:
- More settings = Ability to limit weapons, powers, EGO Rating / Perks
- MORE MAPS! (Didn’t see this one coming)
- Better Loot that’s unique to PvP
- Vehicle based PvP
- Spectator Mode
- Private Matches (Clan vs. Clan)
- Tournament system

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Nothing should be limited in PvP. w/o any ego abilities its gonna turn into a long range everyone sniping halo 4-ish Team sniper game. maps aren't built to support anything else w/o the ability to move undetected/ with distractions/ or faster then normal (blur, decoy, cloak). not to mention it'll only lead to more grenade spam

PvP only loot will force grinders and farmers into PvP mode to earn things they wouldn't use which emans the quality of game will go down and leachers will go up

vehicle based PvP? so you want twisted metal? you want halo style driving tanks and gunners? and flying banshees? this PvP is fun because its different and not like CoD and Halo.

Spectator Mode? nah, it'll just mean people won't spawn and will wathc others and call out positions to teammates. again ruining the game

Private Matches? haven't seen it done well in any game. plus will lead to boosters

Tournament System? Nah it will only lead to people making this game stupid. being cheap and worrying more about W/L and KDR then about having fun.

the game is fun right now because people don't camp, worry about KDR, and aren't too cheap for the sake of their profile. no need to be majorly competitive. and the PvP is a bonus. the game's meat and potatoes is PvE. your trying to make this halo or COD.

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I question a lot of the logic behind this... i mean. If people wont use the PVP loot - why would they grind there?
Also, people do camp on this game already - so im not sure how much you have been playing it (I play on PC so maybe console is different)
People sitting in spectator will ruin the game? Really? if they arent spawning in to begin with, they probably were not playing PVP anyway - but might get enjoyment from watching others to learn and feel confident enough to play (if they frequent pve)
Also this game is very generic, i dont see how its so different it makes successful shooters like COD or Halo lesser than this game... I mean adding in vehicles would make this war themed game a lot more engaging than just the same old 4-wheelers passing by and the 1 Cerberus... i mean that pretty much like halo right there so adding in more features than that isnt making it a halo clone...
Sure there is a lot of features i could do without - but there is no denying they need more because if it was fine as it - it wouldn't be getting brought up.

The meat and potatoes is the PVE is basically the highlight of it all... because it is by far the most lacking feature in the game. The game is an MMORPG third person shooter. Its a shooter alright, its massive, and it has RPG elements - but guess what it excels in NOTHING. Its "MEH" on all 3 counts. I dont see how anyone would defend the game in its current state even when the developers admit they have to change the game for any real longevity to happen.
I'm not trying to make this COD or HALO as they are not MMO's in any aspect - so you can only compare them to PVP - and by adding in addicting qualities people want in a shooter/war based PVP is the reason there will be another COD next year - and not a Defiance 2. They are getting one chance on this game, and for a non subscribe game that will live off micro transactions - no players equal servers getting unplugged. As for the show "biggest media event of the year" well if the game goes down - half the reason that made it "stand out" is gone and there wont even be a season 2. Ive seen better shows get cancelled after 1 season.

So really if you like the game, be open minded to things changing to appeal to more players that will stick around and make the game a success that CAN live on. This is what the thread is about, who is open minded to change and what would they like to see happen most. Everyone is on the same team here so idk why people try to divide the already dwindling community.

Anybody else in this PVP board that wants to see some of these changes?