Did you get what you paid for? $60, $100, $150?

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Originally Posted by Buruko

You only beat me by about a hundred bucks. Although your pumping out the jams, I just bought a snazzy headset.

And I'm loving K-TAM Radio, wanna contribute somehow to the creativity you have on the station. Beyond the tip jar that is! :-D

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Feel free to create a ad, or even something as simple as a station ID "Hi this is <your name here> and you are listening to KTAM"

We accept all submitted content, we play what we can which so far has been almost all of it. If you have some creative ideas welike to hear them and help you run with them.

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Originally Posted by ArkHunterC

Absolutely, without a doubt, I have got my moneys worth. I, personally, am loving the game, the world and the show. I am on 360. Never been into MMOs because of sub fee's. I refuse to pay a monthly fee to play a game that I paid $60+ for. I will be spending a lot of time on Defiance. They will be adding and updating constantly.

I don't see why this game is getting so much hate other than this is typical consumer behavior for EVERY release now a days. Gamers are going to destroy the industry by being to damn whiny. Have some ****in patience for the good Developers. There aren't a **** ton of them out there and TRION is one of the good ones. Some of these people need to whine one one and take a long ride on the wah-mbulance.

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Wait. Being on Xbox, don't you have to have Xbox Live Time to play online? Don't you need that XBL time to play Defiance? If so, then you are paying a subscription, since you are paying for (1) the internet connection itself and (2) the XBL price. Same as us normal PC MMO guys that would pay for our internet and then a specific MMO subscription.

If you don't need XBL, then good. I'm glad. Otherwise, you'd be paying extra than us PC or those PS3 guys to play this game.

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Originally Posted by Rasczak

Wait. Being on Xbox, don't you have to have Xbox Live Time to play online? Don't you need that XBL time to play Defiance? If so, then you are paying a subscription, since you are paying for (1) the internet connection itself and (2) the XBL price. Same as us normal PC MMO guys that would pay for our internet and then a specific MMO subscription.

If you don't need XBL, then good. I'm glad. Otherwise, you'd be paying extra than us PC or those PS3 guys to play this game.

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Come on guy. I pay for XBLA regardless so NO I am not paying a sub fee for Defiance. If I didn't have XBLA, I would not get it to play one game. If people choose to do so, that is their choice but they are still paying the sub fee for XBLA not Defiance. Trion Worlds doesn't make the rules for XBox. They abide by them, same as me. Your argument is simply incorrect.

Also, I have the internet because I do MANY different things on it, as does everyone else that has it. You are being ridiculous by trying to act like people are paying for the internet just to play this game or ANY single game for that matter. Do you only use your internet to play one game? Have you been living under a rock, without the internet, until this game came out and then you thought, ah gee now I have to get the internet to play this game? **** NO. So quit with the lame kids arguments.

I bought the ultimate edition and feel what I got was a beta version of a game which has a lot of anoying bugs. So NO I do not feel as though I got my moneys worth.

Add to this the fact that some of the items we were given as part of the ultimate is either not what was alluded to on the packaging or the item has been exchanged for something else after a game patch. Give me back my black bug cap and take your glasses back Trion!

Things get worse when you consider the fact that the season pass is for the first year of game time only, so the longer the bugs continue and gameplay is held up, the less time the season pass will cover. I suspect Trion will spend the first six months fixing bugs as the game should not have been given to the masses until it was fully playable with the current content. I am just worried that what Trion considers to be additional game content amounts to nothing more than a few missions and some new players skins and maybe a couple of additional coop maps.

The season pass covers 5 DLC's.

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Originally Posted by ArkHunterC

Come on guy. I pay for XBLA regardless so NO I am not paying a sub fee for Defiance. If I didn't have XBLA, I would not get it to play one game. If people choose to do so, that is their choice but they are still paying the sub fee for XBLA not Defiance. Trion Worlds doesn't make the rules for XBox. They abide by them, same as me. Your argument is simply incorrect.

Also, I have the internet because I do MANY different things on it, as does everyone else that has it. You are being ridiculous by trying to act like people are paying for the internet just to play this game or ANY single game for that matter. Do you only use your internet to play one game? Have you been living under a rock, without the internet, until this game came out and then you thought, ah gee now I have to get the internet to play this game? **** NO. So quit with the lame kids arguments.

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Actually, I'm not a kid. I'm a 40 year old business owner.

That said, I don't play Xbox. Never have, never will. Don't play PS3 either. I simply do not like consoles. They were fun when I was a kid, but outside of MMOs, I don't video game at all. I have better things to do with my time.

So take your insults and shove them up your ***. I was asking a legitimate question, not being familiar with XBL outside of seeing the cards in WalMart. That's why I was asking you, an Xbox player. But I see the console jerks are in this game same as they were in DCUO.

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Originally Posted by Rasczak

Actually, I'm not a kid. I'm a 40 year old business owner.

That said, I don't play Xbox. Never have, never will. Don't play PS3 either. I simply do not like consoles. They were fun when I was a kid, but outside of MMOs, I don't video game at all. I have better things to do with my time.

So take your insults and shove them up your ***. I was asking a legitimate question, not being familiar with XBL outside of seeing the cards in WalMart. That's why I was asking you, an Xbox player. But I see the console jerks are in this game same as they were in DCUO.

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Well then, that makes it even worse because you should know better than to present such straw man arguments. You weren't asking anything. You were trying to say that me having XBL is having to pay a sub fee to play the game. Don't get mad at me bro, I was simply showing you how stupid and baseless that argument is.

Funny, the PC elitist trash talking console players. Typical PC player attitude.

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Originally Posted by ArkHunterC

Funny, the PC elitist trash talking console players. Typical PC player attitude.

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Uhhh.......

No. Not at all. I feel like I payed $60 for a game that is still in alpha stage (bit over-exaggerated), considering I CAN'T START MY GAME. I've contacted 2 live chat GM's, neither of them helped at ALL.