Trion needs to do somthing quick or there hardcore players are leaving,

I guess your new to games.

It's real simple, real Hardcore players will Never stay in one game, they get to cap and move on.(and no Hardcore players dont abuse to cap "lvl")

Without even bothering to read a single post in the thread because this thread is on every MMO forum ever created and instead, I'll just say one thing.

They always do because it's a logistical impossibility to create stuff to do for people who play more than a few hours a week fast enough to keep them occupied. You could have a million developers and it still wouldn't be enough. Only sandbox games like EVE, for example, can sustain people who play a lot because the world is built to be malleable and thus, there is always some undertaking to sink time into.

These people go from game to game to experience something new or go through new content and move on. Nothing anyone can do about and trying to cater to this type of gamer in a non-sandbox game is pointless.

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Originally Posted by Hexi

Without even bothering to read a single post in the thread because this thread is on every MMO forum ever created and instead, I'll just say one thing.

They always do because it's a logistical impossibility to create stuff to do for people who play more than a few hours a week fast enough to keep them occupied. You could have a million developers and it still wouldn't be enough. Only sandbox games like EVE, for example, can sustain people who play a lot because the world is built to be malleable and thus, there is always some undertaking to sink time into.

These people go from game to game to experience something new or go through new content and move on. Nothing anyone can do about and trying to cater to this type of gamer in a non-sandbox game is pointless.

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Thank you for your honest effort. These players left within a week of launch.

It is now a month after launch. This is why the forums are suffering a second wave of nausea-- a larger audience is hitting the sandbox ego grind.

*raises hand* I'm not anywhere near quitting. just over 2100 ~8 days played. With a full time job. One of my friends has like 10 days played and isn't anywhere near quitting. So, These "hardcore" players. obviously aren't

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Originally Posted by Rasczak

Try Corporate shareholders, not sponsors.

NBCUniversal, who owns Syfy, bought a stake in Trion Worlds in 2008-- that's what led to the whole Defiance concept. How best to capitalize off their television and (finally) new Video Game company together.

Sadly, as of March 2013, Comcast now owns NBCUniversal in its entirety. Comcast . . . oh, what a comfort. :(

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Comcast owns 51% of NBC Universal, GE owns 49%. NBC Uni is an investor in Trion, not an owner.

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Originally Posted by Schwa

The problem is you're shifting the blame to the "trolls." Trion brought this on themselves, or Trion's overlords brought this on Trion.

No matter which of the two: Trion or Trion's Overlords, are to blame, we the Trolls of the Forums, are only reacting to the current state of the game and the state of its poor continued support.

Don't blame us. The sorry state of the game made us awaken. Fix the source, and we'll go back to sleep.

Trion is ultimately responsible for "hurting the gaming and forum community" with their substandard product.

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Nah, only the noobish trolls will go back to sleep when the source issues are fixed. The Pro Trolls will still be here trolling.

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Nah, only the noobish trolls will go back to sleep when the source issues are fixed. The Pro Trolls will still be here trolling.

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I suppose I'm a noob, then.

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Originally Posted by fatoldguy

I love when someone says grow up, it is usually someone in their teens or early twenties that says it, I was in the Militarty when Jimmy Carter was president, where were you then?

Look I know all games have issues, but the rollback last week, the issues today, and what the devs said on the forum about the priorities for the patch/update that went in today show that clearly they are in way over their heads.

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I tend to agree with you that the devs are in over their heads. The question for we the players then is what do we do about it? Hold their heads under the water so they are more likely to drown? Toss them a line to help stay afloat? Walk away cause it's not our problem?

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I tend to agree with you that the devs are in over their heads. The question for we the players then is what do we do about it? Hold their heads under the water so they are more likely to drown? Toss them a line to help stay afloat? Walk away cause it's not our problem?

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Poke them with a stick until it's boring. This is a game, after all.

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Originally Posted by Verios44

Gives us more stuff to do besides pursuits, boring and repetitive contracts and weapon leveling.

A new set of extremely challenging dungeons would be nice. Ones where the team can ACTUALLY fail. Tired of playing co ops where everyone but me dies on the easiest of all boss rooms, scrapworks salvage. And.I am tired of running around picking ppl up because they don't know how to not die every few seconds.

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Tell me about it, every 5 seconds someone goes down, your revive them then oh, there they go again.. really does annoy me that people dont know how to pay the game.