Dodge Challenge Cars

From the contest description:

Join us in our first Dodge High Speed Challenge weekend! Players can log into Defiance and speed into a new Paradise daily contract and race against the clock in return for access to the Paradise Faction. Once a player has acquired access, there will be a new Paradise merchant that will sell multiple colors of the exclusive Dodge Challenger that will include modified stats.

I am looking at the three available at the Paradise vendor and I don't see any modified stats.

The stats are identical to the black version you get from the racing pursuits, and slightly slower than the preorder version.

Am I missing something?

I'll indulge in the new skins anyway but was hoping that modified stats maybe meant higher top speed, more boost, higher durability, or something along those lines. I guess I assumed to much by the passage highlighted above.

You must be playing the Defiance demo. The official game isn't out yet. =0)

http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...for-your-Dodge.

Go there and check it out your self. =D

Where is the new vendor? Do you really have to place gold to even access it?

Edit: thanks for the post on where it is.

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Originally Posted by rextab

Where is the new vendor? Do you really have to place gold to even access it?

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Check my link:
http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...l=1#post537120

The Racing Pro vendor appears to be at every major hub. However, the point still stands that I see no real modified stats! :(

I also wondered whether the "modified stats" comment would mean some sort of "High Performance" variant of the Dodge, but it looks like they're exactly the same as the ones I already own from normal vendor sales.

The Red Dodge from the pre-order is still the fastest vehicle in the game (and that's fine, they advertised it as such with the caveat that it may not be any longer at some point in the future, but I think people were probably expecting that benefit to remain intact for at least a few months). I thought maybe they'd get creative and make one of the Dodges have a higher health pool, another do the most damage, etc.

They are exactly the same as the specials you could already get,no stat difference.Also you don't need to do the contract to open the vendor (wife only got bronze and still bought the 2 she didn't have).

I wouldn't bother, they're just the Challengers that were once random vendor specials, now you need faction rep of 100 for each colour. The stats appear to be the same as the Orange Hemi you can get from one of the spawned vendors.

This was a rather pointless change, the whole purpose of which appears to be to force people to grind rep.

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Originally Posted by Haffoc

This was a rather pointless change, the whole purpose of which appears to be to force people to grind rep.

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I dont mind rep grind, IF only the goals would "reset" quicker.

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Originally Posted by Haffoc

I wouldn't bother, they're just the Challengers that were once random vendor specials, now you need faction rep of 100 for each colour. The stats appear to be the same as the Orange Hemi you can get from one of the spawned vendors.

This was a rather pointless change, the whole purpose of which appears to be to force people to grind rep.

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Agreed. I was interested in this for many reasons. One, I liked having the rare vehicle colors, so I wanted to know how they were going to get them out to the unlucky people. The only one I am missing is the Bright White and I can't justify spending 100 rep and 14.5k (when the stats are no different) just to get it. I'll catch it as a special sometime.

Rep grind is fine, but taking something that was just random vendor special, claiming it is something special and new, and slapping a rep requirement...

Why am i not surprised that the stats are the same, i came to the forums to see if it was just me seeing this, as i would of happily burned some script on these. But Thanks Devs proving that no patch and no issue that needs fixing will ever actually get fixed in the patch its meant to.... slowly finding i can't recommend this game anymore.

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Originally Posted by IIIB StripesIII

I'll catch it as a special sometime.

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I would imagine that they've removed them from the normal vendor lists.

Eh, it's gonna make the people who originally got the cars randomly just feel like they're not special anymore. I was looking forward to the modified stats too, not just a modified paint job.

On some bright side, at least we have some use for that paradise rep that was otherwise useless.

The dark side of that being the dead battery challenger cars are the worst in the game, can't climb hills and can't get over bumps.

And AHHHH!!!, what is up with random emergencies popping up on really difficult racetracks? The only way I got gold for this was someone cleared the emergency in the road ahead of me before I went around the track for my fifth try in a row...

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Originally Posted by Haffoc

I would imagine that they've removed them from the normal vendor lists.

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Good point. I can only hope though right?

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Originally Posted by Firetalion

Eh, it's gonna make the people who originally got the cars randomly just feel like they're not special anymore. I was looking forward to the modified stats too, not just a modified paint job.

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Honestly, yea it sucks a little bit. I never saw another Plum Crazy Challenger until last night. I had mine on day 3 or so. It felt pretty awesome while it lasted.

what a killjoy...... 100 rep n 14k for a car that's nothing special... wow you guys really outdid yourselves man.. I am starting to have doubts on the thing u guys are doing. All the hype for something we can get as specials from vendors. Wow...... sigh...... :(

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Originally Posted by Haffoc

I would imagine that they've removed them from the normal vendor lists.

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I would imagine they'd mention that in the patch notes if they did. I'm sure they're aware people spend time bouncing between vendors looking for vehicles.

I expected High Performace versions - like the pre-order car.

I was expecting something different from the wording, but it's not the end of the world. We received a new race that, for once, uses a car instead of a quad. That counts for something - content is content and fun side races don't automatically suck just because they don't reward you with the keys to a pimped out ride.

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Originally Posted by EdgeTW

I would imagine they'd mention that in the patch notes if they did. I'm sure they're aware people spend time bouncing between vendors looking for vehicles.

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Why imagine that? I haven't seen single patch come through without them changing something and not mentioning it. Also, as indicated by the "modified stats", they mention things in the patch notes that they don't actually change. We haven't had a single set of accurate patch notes yet, why would that change?

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Originally Posted by EdgeTW

I would imagine they'd mention that in the patch notes if they did. I'm sure they're aware people spend time bouncing between vendors looking for vehicles.

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You really think they're going to have rep items that cost 14.5k and 100 rep, on standard vendors as a random for 500? That defeats the point of making them rep items.

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Originally Posted by Haffoc

You really think they're going to have rep items that cost 14.5k and 100 rep, on standard vendors as a random for 500? That defeats the point of making them rep items.

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I assume the point of the "rep grind" is to give players a temporary alternative method of earning these cars that relies on skill more than luck. Waiting to catch them as a special sale is likely to take you far more time than earning 15k and 100 rep, so sure.. why not. All the cars that are already 15k show up as vendor specials.

They might have changed it, but if we're going to pull assumptions out of the air you might as well assume a pink dodge charger can show up on the vendor special sales now. It wasn't in the patch notes, but what is? :P

Just another case of being blatently lied to again. No surprise at this point.

well im more pissed that i played that race over and over to get gold and all it gives me is 25 rep. where do i get the rest for the car

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Originally Posted by Mattias Nilsson

Just another case of being blatently lied to again. No surprise at this point.

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It may just be a case of bad wording (spin) on their part combined with bad interpretation on our part.

"Once a player has acquired access, there will be a new Paradise merchant that will sell multiple colors of the exclusive Dodge Challenger that will include modified stats."

What they may have been trying to say is this:

"Once a player has acquired access, there will be a new Paradise merchant that will sell multiple color variations of the exclusive Red Dodge Challenger pre-order bonus, but with modified stats that make it somewhat inferior."

Grind rep? I had more then enough =/ + you can't actually grind rep, this isn't WoW. You get 1 daily a day and 1 weekly a week, hardly a grind.

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Originally Posted by Ninno20

Grind rep? I had more then enough =/ + you can't actually grind rep, this isn't WoW. You get 1 daily a day and 1 weekly a week, hardly a grind.

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Actually, yesterday I got 3 weeklies per faction for toolworks, vbi, and soleptor. they just kept resetting after I finished them

so let me get this straight; you don't have to get a gold on the jeck'n race; you just need the scrip and rep???

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Originally Posted by Ape One

so let me get this straight; you don't have to get a gold on the jeck'n race; you just need the scrip and rep???

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I think getting a gold unlocks the ability to buy them from the vendor, but that's probably broken.

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Originally Posted by EdgeTW

I think getting a gold unlocks the ability to buy them from the vendor, but that's probably broken.

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No you just have to do the race thats it.

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Originally Posted by Ninno20

Grind rep? I had more then enough =/ + you can't actually grind rep, this isn't WoW. You get 1 daily a day and 1 weekly a week, hardly a grind.

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Stop being such a pedant.

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Originally Posted by Ninno20

No you just have to do the race thats it.

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o no bro! I suck at this race. T_T o well; ^_^

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Originally Posted by Ape One

o no bro! I suck at this race. T_T o well; ^_^

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It's not worth it, don't bother.

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Originally Posted by EdgeTW

I also wondered whether the "modified stats" comment would mean some sort of "High Performance" variant of the Dodge, but it looks like they're exactly the same as the ones I already own from normal vendor sales.

The Red Dodge from the pre-order is still the fastest vehicle in the game (and that's fine, they advertised it as such with the caveat that it may not be any longer at some point in the future, but I think people were probably expecting that benefit to remain intact for at least a few months). I thought maybe they'd get creative and make one of the Dodges have a higher health pool, another do the most damage, etc.

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like ur idea plus stat changes like that could come with diff looks E.G extra health dodge should have a a mod on the front like a gard to smash into things the high damage dodge could have spikes on the front and back would make it fun I think

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Originally Posted by BraveDude8

It's not worth it, don't bother.

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it kinda is a meen cmon lets face it this game is a game all about showing off by unlocking outfits n car skins n stuff n yeah most may have this now but down the line when all these challenges are gone n stuff new players will still be earning the black 1 after a while but this will be gone makin these 3 cars prob the most rare down the line

oh n guys if u need to pick only 1 id defo go white or plump the metallic 1 isn't all that great lookin out of plumb n white id go white only use 2 cars in my loadouts now dogde white and black think they are both mega cool

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Originally Posted by Ninno20

No you just have to do the race thats it.

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I'm referring to this statement:

"The Paradise merchant will be pushed live in the next 24 hours, you’re able to complete Gold and gain the Paradise merchant rep for access to the Dodge Challengers."

That's why I said I think it requires gold, but that it's "probably broken".

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Originally Posted by EdgeTW

I'm referring to this statement:

"The Paradise merchant will be pushed live in the next 24 hours, you’re able to complete Gold and gain the Paradise merchant rep for access to the Dodge Challengers."

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Iv had seen people with bronze get it, so im guessing atm is just completing the race.

Part of me suspects the following will happen:

1) Trion will say "oops, the vendor is supposed to be selling versions of those cars with modified stats. That's a bug." and then will eventually update the vendor with the right variants.

2) Players will point out they already purchased the wrong car from the vendor.

3) Trion will promise to figure out a way to provide players who have already made the wrong purchase with the correct car, but it will likely take over a month to do.

4) The forum will flood with "Dude, where's my car?" threads during that time.