Why do you still play defiance?

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Originally Posted by mrarkhunter

Once you beat this game there is NO REASON to keep playing.

Grinding for key codes / items are pointless because from level 1-5000 there is NO DIFFERENCE in weapons / equipment aside from synergy mod slots and even then they are pointless because they are so common.

PVP is pointless its the same 3 maps over and over. PVE is pointless the co-op dungeons NEVER CHANGE. Arkfalls are BORING because there are ONLY 3 MAJOR TYPES.

Clans are IRRELEVANT because of the above. Socialization is NOT IMPLEMENTED unless your standing two feet away from someone.

Why do you play when there is no reason to keep playing?

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• The game is fun
• I'm not bored of it
• I haven't completed the main story
• I haven't completed the side quests
• I haven't done the majority of the time trials, hotshots and rampages.
• I enjoy the show
• I love the lore of Defiance
• I want to collect weapons
• I'd like to do the majority of the pursuits
• I play with a clan/friends
• I've paid for it?
• There's no subscription fee so I can come back to it whenever I like
• I want to see the way it develops through weekly missions and DLC
• I want to see what new features/content/improvements they make
• It's a good game
• You suck stop whining
• Off to play some more Defiance!
• Seeya! Wouldn't wanna be ya!

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Originally Posted by HellOnOrion

i just dont understand how you "force" yourself to keep going... pre 1k its actually a decent game because you continually progress, you feel like your weapons are getting better, you constantly are crawling up that mountain... but after 1k ego its flat out too much "work" for such little reward...

sure you can run around knocking out pursuits... but how can you force yourself to do the same thing over and over and still consider that fun? i mean literally... the same thing... all fights with enemys are the same... they sit still and shoot or crawl after you... occassionally roll out of the way, throw a grenade, or raise up in the air to smash the ground...

There isnt a single creature or boss in this game outside nim with an arsenal of more than 5 capabilitys ( and by that i mean they do 5 things outside standing still ) that includes rolling, throwing a grenade, shooting a gun

even nim, each phase has tops 3 actions he can take... its just borring...

if you find this fun after 1k i really would love to know what your life outside of games is like... not being judgemental but i dont see how the same repetition is fun with nothing changing,... i mean give me 1 difference between a weapon i get at 500 ego as opposed to 5k ego... there is no difference...

some can argue its more about skill than gear... and my response to that would be to ask for an address so i can just beat their ***... any game with gear in it, is gear based... if its not, its a failed game... sounds alot like defiance to me

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Again i met some cool people on the forums, played with them. That's how DeFi is still fun to me. ;]. Btw you kidn of are insulting with that. What does ones life have to do with how they enjoy a game? Some people like defiance, some people like to complain about defiance. Some people like to lick the icing off an oreo and throw away the cookie part. Who cares what or why people do what they do. Everyone is different. Hell i enjoy playing with my friends rather in a group or over the net. Doesn't matter, so long as i got my friends and having fun.

See games are about this weird thing, called "Fun". It's really a strange feeling to most people in the video game community now-a-days. Lately it's all about "How many hours do i get out of this game!?" or "Does this game have this" or "that". I remember when games were fun, enjoying them was fun. You can find fun things to do in broken games. DeFi is broken, i have fun in it. Atleast it is broken in MY OWN OPINION. Still fun though. Keyword for everyone. Fun. Not having it? Leave. Problem solved? Yes. ;]

I don't have to force myself to do anything, because I want to. No gun to my head. I wouldn't continue to play a game i'm not enjoying and that's all that comes down to. I can't platinum most games on my PS3 because a lot of them do require me to play to the point of disliking the game to do so, but hundreds if not thousands of people trophy hunt like mad. You're better off questioning their reasons for torturing themselves than mine. All of that being said though, I did platinum the Assassins Creed series because I just had that much fun playing it. It's the same kinda thing here.

Aren't all shooting games nearly exactly what you just described if you're going to boil it down to a basic concept? That's a dull way to look at a game. The same could be argued with MMORPGs. Kill, loot, kill, loot, kill, loot..kill..loot..kill..level up! Repeat. Endgame content..Organize a raid or well thought out party..execute the dungeon with precision..kill..loot..Repeat.

Games should indeed have variety and flavor, but it almost sounds like you don't want to enjoy yourself. :(

And it's true, my life outside of gaming is pretty boring. I don't get to travel to distant worlds, shoot people or go on adventures. I don't know if you think i'm particularly neglected or something, but i'm pretty normal. I have friends who I spent time with frequently, I've worked a variety of mind-numbing jobs. Real world goals and ambitions..Hell, I even read books for fun! I must be miserable! lol

Someone save me!

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Originally Posted by HellOnOrion

i just dont understand how you "force" yourself to keep going... pre 1k its actually a decent game because you continually progress, you feel like your weapons are getting better, you constantly are crawling up that mountain... but after 1k ego its flat out too much "work" for such little reward...

sure you can run around knocking out pursuits... but how can you force yourself to do the same thing over and over and still consider that fun? i mean literally... the same thing... all fights with enemys are the same... they sit still and shoot or crawl after you... occassionally roll out of the way, throw a grenade, or raise up in the air to smash the ground...

There isnt a single creature or boss in this game outside nim with an arsenal of more than 5 capabilitys ( and by that i mean they do 5 things outside standing still ) that includes rolling, throwing a grenade, shooting a gun

even nim, each phase has tops 3 actions he can take... its just borring...

if you find this fun after 1k i really would love to know what your life outside of games is like... not being judgemental but i dont see how the same repetition is fun with nothing changing,... i mean give me 1 difference between a weapon i get at 500 ego as opposed to 5k ego... there is no difference...

some can argue its more about skill than gear... and my response to that would be to ask for an address so i can just beat their ***... any game with gear in it, is gear based... if its not, its a failed game... sounds alot like defiance to me

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Its the WOW effect! Ive never played it, played a game that i would consider better (ROM), but never played WOW, but the features in this game is all so similiar to whats in WOW, except instead of swords and magic, debuffs, roles, and tanks, we have a shooter!

I dont know man, Defiance has dailies, most rpg's have the same.

Defiance has guilds, again most if not all rpg's have the same.

Defiance has instances(very soloable instance, but instances none the less, some if not all rpg's have them.

Pvp? rpg's have those to?

Vehichles=Mounts, same thing!!!

There is no gear grind, wait, yes there is, but its a simple gear grind, unlike WOW, so its acceppted!

So where does the difference begin? Well, thats easy, a gun!! The game has stolen every aspect of an rpg except the Holy Trinity!. Some has even suggested adding other rpg elements (AH, pets), but people hate WOW so much that they would rather the game dumb down to simplicity, than actually take specific rpg element and apply it without ruining the lore.

Sh!t, everything else is rpg related, why not build upon that?

Sure ive quit, but im very interested with the direction of this game! During beta, i saw whatwas trying to be accomplished, and all i could do was gush over it. Bought the game, and couldnt believe what i saw. As a hardcore rpg fan (pc of course), im open minded, but damn, i felt insulted. Is this really what they think is ground breaking?? Look i know people hate the gear grind, carrot and stick route, fine, but to do thing for almost no reward?? Really??

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Originally Posted by Jack The Bear

Again i met some cool people on the forums, played with them. That's how DeFi is still fun to me. ;]. Btw you kidn of are insulting with that. What does ones life have to do with how they enjoy a game? Some people like defiance, some people like to complain about defiance. Some people like to lick the icing off an oreo and throw away the cookie part. Who cares what or why people do what they do. Everyone is different. Hell i enjoy playing with my friends rather in a group or over the net. Doesn't matter, so long as i got my friends and having fun.

See games are about this weird thing, called "Fun". It's really a strange feeling to most people in the video game community now-a-days. Lately it's all about "How many hours do i get out of this game!?" or "Does this game have this" or "that". I remember when games were fun, enjoying them was fun. You can find fun things to do in broken games. DeFi is broken, i have fun in it. Atleast it is broken in MY OWN OPINION. Still fun though. Keyword for everyone. Fun. Not having it? Leave. Problem solved? Yes. ;]

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Forgive me for being a devils advocate, especially since you are enjoying your time with those friends. But can we be honest here? The fact is any game, even some of the worst of games can be fun with others... hell you could be making fun of it together..

Anyway point is.. if the only defense a game has is .. it is fun to play with friends and cant stand on its own.. then why play it? After all you can make the excuse any game is fun when played with a friend.

Just saying, food for thought. Either way, im glad your taking your time away from your new buds to post so much on the forums :D Hope you keep enjoying it.

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Originally Posted by Archeus9

Forgive me for being a devils advocate, especially since you are enjoying your time with those friends. But can we be honest here? The fact is any game, even some of the worst of games can be fun with others... hell you could be making fun of it together..

Anyway point is.. if the only defense a game has is .. it is fun to play with friends and cant stand on its own.. then why play it? After all you can make the excuse any game is fun when played with a friend.

Just saying, food for thought. Either way, im glad your taking your time away from your new buds to post so much on the forums :D Hope you keep enjoying it.

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I have to agree, but who would attempt to play a game like this by themselves? Is everyone that anti-social these days? And its not really a defense per-say, i stopped defending Defiance for the most part. Im just giving people options to get some friends and enjoy the game. Defending anything in this day, especially on the internet, is pointless, so i just stopped trying.

Options are the best thing to have in a game like this. If none of it is working for you, trying hanging out with some dumb-*** friends and having fun. All im saying. ;].

I quit yesterday with no hard feelings, the games lack of meaningful content outside the main story and ego 1k frees me to spend time in other worlds. Im still in support of this game making a come back and will look forward to dlc. Given a few months it might even have most the bugs fixed.

To those of you still in love with this game, I salute you all, you guys will be in the best shape when dlc hits. As for I, 5 more minutes and I can try out ffxi new expansion.

Ps Im still going to stay in the forums :P

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Originally Posted by Jack The Bear

I have to agree, but who would attempt to play a game like this by themselves? Is everyone that anti-social these days? And its not really a defense per-say, i stopped defending Defiance for the most part. Im just giving people options to get some friends and enjoy the game. Defending anything in this day, especially on the internet, is pointless, so i just stopped trying.

Options are the best thing to have in a game like this. If none of it is working for you, trying hanging out with some dumb-*** friends and having fun. All im saying. ;].

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You have found the key to happiness. :P

I play it because I have fun running around on my quad or roller and shooting stuff. I also find the forums entertaining.

omg.... why do we play this game? maybe becasue its fun and its shooter game .... you can use this question for every FPS/TPS out there.... why do people play COD or BF3 or even D3 with same repetitve content? because its fun to shoot something and gain some reward in nice world with TV show background.... I do a few PvP few shadow war few coop map and daily/weekly contract every day and its still fun try to complete some pursuits :)this game has its player base and there is always many people on servers/mirrors... I am still waiting only few seconds on SHW or any COOP map or PvP ..arkfalls are full of people so stop hating man:) this game will survive with stable community base and after more DLC more people will come back again as always in these Buy to Play model games like GW2