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Holy crapp 6, 000, 000, 000 hours of game play combined that is a lot of hours .I am pumped that Defiance is blowing up in the video game world , I'm loving every second of game play like I said what is more fun than 16-20 of your friends running and gunning blowing things up together.
First of all, and I'm no math wizard, but I think that number is 6 Billion in your post. Second, assuming your title is the accurate number, that is actually a horrible statistic for the game. Trion recently claimed (coughBScough) to have 1 million users. 6 hours per user in a month is pretty terrible. Makes it seem like a lot of people played a couple hours and never picked it up again.
No, see...it's 6 million hours of play, plus 6 million hours of downtime. So it's actually double. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DejaVooDoo
Starting to wonder if some people are just paid employees... if you get my meaning...Quote:
Originally Posted by Untamed Gunner
You know what? Hey OP.. got proof? Linky please.
lets not forget the many that play 6 plus hrs a day
I started to work on a formula to show how many active people currently there are in game but gave up as big bang theory finished downloading.
I have dyslexia guys so lay off or if it makes you feel good putting people down who have disabilities go for it
And 75% of all statistics are made up on the spot.. including this one! Lolz.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost_ol3a
1 million REGISTERED users. Not players. You can register and not have the game.
Purchases are rather at 100-200k.
and 6 million is ... bad. u can expect near half of it to be "AFK time".
*hit i know alot that are on for ungodly amount of time. just sayin if you have 1 mill users and a total of 6 mill game time, its a whole lot less then 6 hrs a month per userQuote:
Originally Posted by Archeus9
You want to be GM in servers, or what ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Untamed Gunner
6h per ppl is ridiculous, compared to even ppl like me who already got 240h+. Probably the average rate is more 4 or 5h / ppl, which means it's atm a ****ing DISASTER and nothing to be proud of.
"Defiance is blowing". Sure, sure. Give us the rest of the game and it could.
Wow.. I leave the forums for a week.. and return to find a whole new squad of bashers and haters... and amazingly.. none of the old haters are still around.. hmmm.. makes a guy wonder huh? If it doesn't, then your a tool IMHO. Frankly, instead of bashing the game, perhaps you should just go back to whatever "rainbow land" you came from and extoll the virtues of your mighty nightly gear grinding hammer/lightsaber/axe/cape/etc etc to those who really think everything is shiny-happy ONLY on the other side of the fence where you are. :)
Hey OP.. keep posting feel goods man.. us NON-Haters got your back.. just make sure you've got your facts and grammar correct :) INclude some links to, so the haters can puff on em :)
I am starting to wonder if certain people, just want to be negative about Trion, because they are gettin sucked off by EA or activision ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Archeus9
Yep, just read through the thread. Not a single one could be accused of "bashing the game". They were about basic analysis of an alleged statistic. The fact that this statistic reflects negatively on the game doesn't equate to "bashing the game". You're no less a troll and "hater" just because you support the game. you're just trying to throw out troll bait to derail this topic because it undermines your view of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by PseudoCool
For sure on the afk part, I chill at shops when they get close to changing out their special items.Quote:
Originally Posted by DustOfDeath
Nope. I hate those guys. :p I wouldn't spend a moment in their forums because i dont care about any of their games.Quote:
Originally Posted by JD nutz
Agreeing with what a company does when you see bad things coming down the road, does not help it out bro. Its actually detrimental to it.
1) what are "registered Defiance users"? Users on this forum or Trion/Sony/XBox accounts with Defiance purchased and enabled?
2) 6 million hours for million player accounts is actually awfully low.
"I like how excited uneducated......(ugh, cough, um, cough) untamed noob got!"---Personal attack on the OPQuote:
Originally Posted by DejaVooDoo
"No, see...it's 6 million hours of play, plus 6 million hours of downtime. So it's actually double."---implying the game only works half the time, which is obviously false, so bashing
"which means it's atm a ****ing DISASTER and nothing to be proud of."---really? this isn't bashing? lol
your a funny guy, seriously, I don't understand the mentality of people who stay on these forums simply to bash the game and call people fanboys. If your done with the game then move on, what do you accomplish by sitting around here being a ****** everyday? Some of us like the game, so just leave us alone and stop flooding our forum with garbage.
They aren't your forums, they belong to Trion. Which means the only people who have the right to ask others to leave are those who work for Trion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander Shepard
Just Sayin'.....
Nah the same haters are still here. Might just be they haven't caught onto this thread yet. Seems the same 5 or 6 people jump on every thread regardless of what it's about, and spew their hate into it. Hang around they'll be here soon :)Quote:
Originally Posted by PseudoCool
I have insanely bad dyslexia and run everything though a spell checker and reread it afterwards prior to posting. I do not feel it is a Disability, it is more of an annoying quirk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Untamed Gunner
So blaming Dyslexia for a bad start is silly, just take the burn edit the original post and shrug.
Also Six Million Hours is not a good Sign.
April 2nd to May 6th.
So 34 days.
6,000,000 / 34 = 176,470.59 Hours played a day, the average video gamer player plays 1 hour a day on Average. So that means 176k players regally play Defiance. It's a normal number for a MMO, nothing special but nothing horribly bad.
460,000 copies sold between 3 platforms is sad. http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name...=0&results=200
Well actually if you want a proper look at average would be to so that on average theres a 10% of hardcore players who play 4+ hours a day and then there would be around 20% of players that play 2 hours a day and then the rest would be 1 hour a day. Now do the maths for that and see the numbers lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by gothicshark
I play about an hour a day. Anyways I didn't get the game until 2 weeks after launch. Probably a lot of people didn't get it the first day of launch.
For the MMO Market that is about Normal, Most MMOs have between 100k-500k Subscriptions. Only the top tier MMOs have higher numbers. Games Like SWTOR, TSW, Rifts are able to keep close to 1 million Subscribers. Of course you can think about the Kings of the MMO genre but they are in a incredibly lucky position. Lineage, Aion and WOW which have multi-Million Subs are a special group. two of which are only popular in the Asian Market and the third hit at the right time .Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNeoReaper
Even Hard Core Players don't play every day. The 1 hour average is a number the Video game industry came up with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garu
The difference here is that it isnt a subscription game, gw2 is really the only other b2p i can think off and they sold 2million compies in like 2 weeks, so for only 460k sold is bad for the infrastructure they must have in place to support 3 different platforms.Quote:
Originally Posted by gothicshark
True, but you forget most MMOs which have 1~200k are f2p meaning they don't even sell the game and survive on in-game purchases and ad revenue from sponsors like Dodge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garu
Also the numbers you have for units sold is way short from the numbers I read 2 days after launch which had over 1 million downloads for PC.
If they had sold 1 million units with the farce of the bad advertising of the 1million registered accounts trion would be ****ting all over themselves to tell us. That they resorted to using the old registered accounts instead of units sold it shows the numbers arnt flattering. Also those f2p games dont launch on 3 different platforms and have very little infastructure support and the level of quality in their games show they were made on a piss poor budget, defiance and the show were not made on a low budget and those sales numbers have to hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by gothicshark
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Originally Posted by DustOfDeath
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. It's like when microsoft or sony say "Consoles shipped" instead of sales. It's a deceptive tactic used to inflate their numbers over what they really are and people are obviously falling for it hook line and sinker.
I think in this particular instance, its sorta like the music industry, an artist can go platinum without fans actually buying the album! Depending on the artist, most music stores anticipate a sell out, and adjust the numbers accordingly, but yes, its a very deceptive trick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch
Lol! xDQuote:
Originally Posted by FattyMcG33
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At the moment the numbers are deceptive, but many MMOs hide the numbers at launch, this is a normal tactic since they have to give the number to the share holders. It is always better for smaller companies to show average until investor reports go out. Its a way to generate revenue. Much like SyFy saying they didn't make any money off the TV show, even though it has the highest viewership since Farscape.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garu
Blizzard stopped advertising sales of games and expansions years ago, and the only way we can get real numbers is the stock holder meetings. It Just means Trion is doing the same thing.
Just wanted to say, that i admire the fact that even with your (annoyance as you say), you still take time to spell check and deliver a coherent post and not using it as an excuse!Quote:
Originally Posted by gothicshark
LMAO HAHAHA, dyslexia doesn't have a damn thing to do with you putting 6,000,000,000 instead of 6,000,000. It was a mistype. But you trying to defend a mistype by saying you have DYSLEXIA IS HILARIOUS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Untamed Gunner
The quality of your post, especially in comparison with many of the posts on this forum, is proof that your Dyslexia is nothing more than an annoyance to you. Thank you for spending the extra effort to write clearly, when others can't be assed to even spellcheck their garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by gothicshark
Yuppers! They can't even be assed to spellcheck. Just joking lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schwa
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Originally Posted by Schwa
Thank you. I think it is because I hate making grammar mistakes when I have a decent idea about something. (Of course i still make stupid mistakes, but I just fix them when others find them.)
Except that the numbers are wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schwa
The Average MMO player spends about 22 hours per week playing MMO's... or 3 hours aday. So it's not 176K, it's 176K/3 or under 60K.
http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/gate...ographics.html
http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/archives/000758.php
The one hour per day is the average for all americans, gamers or not.
That said...
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3ua1am/
This statistic is incorrect to date. I cant find the site that posted this, but i seen the article over 2 weeks ago that Defiance was sharing the statistics on. This statistic was released the week the show launched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Untamed Gunner
By now there were many more hours logged in. But that being said, even at the shows launch those numbers were really bad. The article said the same thing about how bad the numbers really looked.
I am someone that is openly upset with the game for many reasons posted in this forum in other threads, but this one is very out dated statistics.