Ego rating . Useless ?

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Originally Posted by nosworc

This ^, you worded it better than i could. The moment i mention the word progression i get the "Ermagwwd go back to WoW" comments.

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Were you both playing Defiance whilst under the effect of narcotics? Story progression, gear progression, weapon level progression, weapon skill progression, Ego level progression, Ego rating progression, pursuit progression, weapon synergy progression, hotshot progression, time trial progression... Do you require me to go on?

Open your eyes but be careful, try to hold those babytears in. San Francisco's grass is already too green.

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Originally Posted by Blondin

Oh, you're sad because you can't farm and grind...

Why someone that can spend hours and days on a videogame should have advantage on one that can play just a few hours?
Because WOW did like that and then all other game should be the same? then go back playing WOW...

In Defiance you level up your skill yourself, this is not a kid game where you just have to play hours to be uberoverpoweroneshotnoobs... in this game if you're bad at EGO 20 and still bad at EGO 2000, the problem is you, not the game!!

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all other mmos have some sort of carrot on a stick to keep you going...defiance has none. there should be a difference between a level 100 and level 2000.As far as skill goes,you do not need any in defiance,the whole game is on easy mode with no risk of failure. Every game should have a reason to progress in level,again defiance has none.

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Originally Posted by Chemikz

Were you both playing Defiance whilst under the effect of narcotics?

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I had better not answer that, i don't fancy being shipped off to Mega City and having Judge Dredd reading me my rights ;) Seriously though, the progression we are on about is character progression, the main reason people play mmo's is to feel more powerful, with Defiance your toon is barely any different than when you started. That's fine for PvP but for PvE it needs more to it.

Oh! If you guys are asking for fluff progression, like weapon camo and outfits and whatever, I am ALL for it. Lots of shooter games have fluff progression that gives players something to show off for all the time they put in. I wouldn't use it at all, but it doesn't negatively effect me so I can find no reason not to have it.

I will agree that the game is too easy at times, but scaling difficulty and adding more is the real solution to that problem. I just want that solution to be something that fits into the mold of the way the game is now without changing its fundamentals.

For example:
Co-ops that work like other shooter co-ops, ones that you can fail and have to start over with lots of mobs that require precision shooting, coordination, and support (via healing, ego powers, ect).

GIANT epic arkfalls that occur once day or even once a week that require not only large numbers but are actually challenging to complete in time with lots of different styles of combat, enemies, and scaled difficulty but still able to be approached by everyone from EGO 50 - 5000.

Unique rewards for being a top performing in any of the above events on a consistent basis, fluff and items tied to your ability to get the job done (top healing a certain number of times, top damage a certain number of times, ect).

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Originally Posted by Schwa

Lots of people have stopped playing. Why else do you think [SYSTEM] is begging people to join queues, and we have another thread open in the general discussion forum about the PS3 servers needing a "merge" because nobody's playing?

Best not to encourage people to leave. Not to mention people aren't going to leave just because you tell them to.

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I'm on the PS3.

Plenty, plenty of people playing.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Moreau

One thing is killing this game , one thing that could have been easily corrected .
EGO rating is completely useless in term of equipment/skills.

Seriously , I'm ego 700+ and the weapons/shields are the same since ego 20.
I sometimes find a weapon with a synergy , but they are like 10% melee or 5% reload. Got two legendaries yesterday , one was a grenade launcher with the awesome power of fire rate +10% with a max clip of 1 , the other was a sniper rifle with the same stats as the sniper rifle I got at the beginning + melee +15%.

WOOHOO !!! LEGENDARY !
I'm so glad I grinded my way up to something as satisfying as 80 points of damage.

More : hours and hours of grinding to equip a skill that is barely visible in term of stats on the character and do not improve at all the fun factor of the game (WOOHOO !! 3% ammo regen on critical kill...).

I'm halfway through the campaign and I feel I'm done with the game , the characters do not evolve one bit , and the loot system is the most boring I've ever seen since you only find level 1 weapons.
Pursuits are pointless grinding without any rewards since all you got is more EGO and I'm certainly not pushing this to ego 4000 only to find weapons with melee+ 16%.

This was a fun game , until I realized there was no excitement or surprises usually found in the loot system of that kind of game.

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As you get more EGO, you can use multiple perks with the same build. Multiple perks = more variety, more ways to buff. I keep tweaking builds so that one is more effective at long range, short range, AoE, etc. When you find the right combination, that effect is certainly noticeable.

The game doesn't auto-progress you, and weapons are leveled very slowly. But there is definitely progression in the game.

the servers are just as busy as when i started on the 1st day, i dont see where people are getting this information its all dieing off ?

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Originally Posted by Chemikz

Were you both playing Defiance whilst under the effect of narcotics?

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how else would anyone still be playing?

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Originally Posted by nosworc

This ^, you worded it better than i could. The moment i mention the word progression i get the "Ermagwwd go back to WoW" comments.

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I grow tired of hearing those comments. They don't help at all. This game is evidently lacking, and the majority of the community has noticed. Non MMO players have even noticed.

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Originally Posted by Chemikz

Were you both playing Defiance whilst under the effect of narcotics? Story progression, gear progression, weapon level progression, weapon skill progression, Ego level progression, Ego rating progression, pursuit progression, weapon synergy progression, hotshot progression, time trial progression... Do you require me to go on?

Open your eyes but be careful, try to hold those babytears in. San Francisco's grass is already too green.

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If only your minute amount of intelligence allowed you to read and interpret things in a sufficient manner. I can progress in a Dora the Explorer game. Clearly you are not understanding the way we utilize the term "progression". If you have nothing constructive to say, go do something else with your life pl0x. Kthxbai.