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05-07-2013, 05:01 PM
Blackwolfe

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Originally Posted by Spiegel

The missing weapon bonuses affects a much larger ego range; I've already made a couple posts about it.
It starts as early as 1500.

Now that you mention it, I was wondering why almost none of the weapons I find have any weapon bonuses. Im at ego rating 1700ish.
05-07-2013, 05:02 PM
Drakon

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Originally Posted by loken

Those are patch notes

Those are patch notes for patch 1.014, way to miss the big: DEFIANCE Patch 1.014
05-07-2013, 05:06 PM
ItISLupus

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Originally Posted by Nerotic

Just wondering Freight Yard is a capture and hold? Also if it does wackamolé on us again can we get a solid date on when it should be available for sure? Also can we get a scedual of some kind for the fix date of all known issues. It would give the loyalist peace of mind and would hopefully give the trolls something to gnaw on for a bit.

The problem with bug fixes, there is no eta. The content will be fixed when it gets fixed.
05-07-2013, 05:17 PM
Nerotic

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Originally Posted by ItISLupus

The problem with bug fixes, there is no eta. The content will be fixed when it gets fixed.

That actually is exactly my point there is no ETA I would like one. Even if the dates change without explanation. It shows progress is being made or at least attempted. Probably not alone here on that. I am not much of a church goer and I would like something more than faith to sustain me.
05-07-2013, 06:07 PM
Wtflag

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Originally Posted by tuckerpb

wow it is so ****ing great that you people are fixing and putting **** in for the pvpers. the one group that is known for being the cause for the ruin for many mmo

Lolwut?

Given that this game is a shooter, I would argue that the intended end-game is PVP.
05-07-2013, 06:14 PM
fgbrooks

Sledge,

I sure hope that Trion pays you a lot of money for having to read and respond to the comments in this thread.

"Illegitimi non carborundum"!!
05-07-2013, 06:15 PM
Multigun

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Originally Posted by Nerotic

That actually is exactly my point there is no ETA I would like one. Even if the dates change without explanation. It shows progress is being made or at least attempted. Probably not alone here on that. I am not much of a church goer and I would like something more than faith to sustain me.

Ya but the "general community" will have the biggest hissy fit of all time whenever they don't meet the expected date. I'm going to guess you weren't around for the whole 1.010 patch fiasco. Dev's said they would release the patch on a "Monday or possibly next day" for the patch. People went freakazoid when Monday came around and no patch was released. (like seriously freaked the heck out. I saw a post as early as 8:00 PM PST Sunday DEMANDING to know where the patch was because it was Monday for "them" ) The patch released the very next day. Trion said they hoped to have the second big patch at the end of April. People wen't freakazoid when that wasn't met either (though not as bad as the first time). I think Trion would be wise NOT to release any ETA what so ever.
05-07-2013, 07:23 PM
Fiox

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

Make or break it time. Forgive me but your track record has been terrible so far. So this... "Patch 1.020 will bring a lot of items, fixes and major changes." better bring some real substantial changes. Time to put your money where your mouth is.

I do not want this to be like Anet's Ranger promises. Been pushing for this game on other mediums but find myself speaking to myself because no one else is interested and I even find my interest waning.

Well aren't you full of sunshine and cheer. You actually get an update and kinda just yell at him for saying stuff is coming this community of whiners is pathetic.
05-07-2013, 07:25 PM
Schwa

I don't see what the fuss is about wanting 1.2 info nownow. I'm perfectly content to give them as much time as they like to get it right the first time.

Because if it isn't this time, hellfire. The reaction to the previous pvp map snafu was just a prelude to the reaction I'm sure they expect to 1.2 being like 1.1.
05-07-2013, 07:27 PM
BrassRazoo

Patch sounds good. Better than nothing.
It will be good to play Freight Yard finally, never managed to get in when it was up before.
05-07-2013, 07:28 PM
Ichidakiller

Hey sledgehammer

Might want to include one little added line in patch 1.014

•vehicles will now automatically disappear when entering an arkfall

If you could have that ready by patch 1.014 that would be great......yeah....
05-07-2013, 07:30 PM
Schwa

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Originally Posted by Ichidakiller

Might want to include one little added line in patch 1.014

•vehicles will now automatically disappear when entering an arkfall

If you could have that ready by patch 1.014 that would be great......yeah....

Tonight, on the PC version, a nomad just rolled up to a major arkfall due to this request.

SCHWA was on the license plate.
05-07-2013, 07:31 PM
Blackwolfe

I love it when people park right ontop of where a hellbug hive is about to pop up. Seeing them fly always makes me smile.
05-07-2013, 07:31 PM
Talon Swiftshot

Good to know. Would be nice to play Freight Yard...actually I'm lying...I just want my Delaware Freelance gear tbh. For all I care Freight Yard can disappear for all eternity after that.

Just kidding, though I do want my DW gear more than FY...I just happen to need FY, so I guess I'm half kidding? A 'lil bored maybe?
05-07-2013, 07:34 PM
baelrusk

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Originally Posted by Schwa

I don't see what the fuss is about wanting 1.2 info nownow. I'm perfectly content to give them as much time as they like to get it right the first time.

Because if it isn't this time, hellfire. The reaction to the previous pvp map snafu was just a prelude to the reaction I'm sure they expect to 1.2 being like 1.1.

Well said. That's just how it is now.
For now the best option is to stop and see how this goes for the time being.
05-07-2013, 07:35 PM
Blackwolfe

1.2? What are you using, a time machine? Next major patch is 1.020.
05-07-2013, 07:35 PM
Schwa

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Originally Posted by Blackwolfe

1.2? What are you using, a time machine? Next major patch is 1.020.

The extra zero bores me, so I leave it out.
05-07-2013, 07:39 PM
Arsenic_Touch

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Originally Posted by Schwa

I don't see what the fuss is about wanting 1.2 info nownow. I'm perfectly content to give them as much time as they like to get it right the first time.

Because if it isn't this time, hellfire. The reaction to the previous pvp map snafu was just a prelude to the reaction I'm sure they expect to 1.2 being like 1.1.

Yeah, don't need to be reminded of that little sneak preview where they were say "there's 9 pages of notes" and that this is just a preview and not the finale patch notes, then when the final patch notes rolls around, they were pretty much identical(I went back to look for the preview post and it vanished, kind of funny) Seems to be the running trend when they say something is going to change and it ends up being the same.

Rather be surprised instead of let down, again. So the bar is already low.
05-07-2013, 07:39 PM
jarrodlovesmusic

here is a video of devs working on patchs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeMU60yi3dQ
Either they are really crafty, and like he said we are in a game made by men, men
05-07-2013, 07:42 PM
Blackwolfe

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

Yeah, don't need to be reminded of that little sneak preview where they were say "there's 9 pages of notes" and that this is just a preview and not the finale patch notes, then when the final patch notes rolls around, they were pretty much identical(I went back to look for the preview post and it vanished, kind of funny) Seems to be the running trend when they say something is going to change and it ends up being the same.

Rather be surprised instead of let down, again. So the bar is already low.

Not to mention that alot of the stuff in the 1.010 patch notes for some reason never ended up the actual game..
05-07-2013, 07:43 PM
Arsenic_Touch

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Originally Posted by Blackwolfe

Not to mention that alot of the stuff in the 1.010 patch notes for some reason never ended up the actual game..

And the whole list of things that ended up broke. Ps3 users thought they got the short end of the stick, but sony actually saved their customers some grief on that one.
05-07-2013, 07:44 PM
Schwa

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

Yeah, don't need to be reminded of that little sneak preview where they were say "there's 9 pages of notes" and that this is just a preview and not the finale patch notes, then when the final patch notes rolls around, they were pretty much identical(I went back to look for the preview post and it vanished, kind of funny) Seems to be the running trend when they say something is going to change and it ends up being the same.

Rather be surprised instead of let down, again. So the bar is already low.

Compared with Trion's previous release, the bar is on the ground. But hey, it can only go up from here!
05-07-2013, 07:54 PM
Omnifarious Xji

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

And the whole list of things that ended up broke. Ps3 users thought they got the short end of the stick, but sony actually saved their customers some grief on that one.

Never EVER post EVER AGAIN. You have 1,337 posts.
05-07-2013, 07:56 PM
Arsenic_Touch

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Originally Posted by Omnifarious Xji

Never EVER post EVER AGAIN. You have 1,337 posts.

Too late, posted in another thread. Didn't even realize it. =(
05-07-2013, 08:10 PM
RegularX

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

Too late, posted in another thread. Didn't even realize it. =(

Ah, now you're just l33t+2 and counting
05-07-2013, 08:11 PM
Shawnchapp

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Originally Posted by Blackwolfe

Not to mention that alot of the stuff in the 1.010 patch notes for some reason never ended up the actual game..

This!

I'm still wondering what the hell happened to them adding labels/makers on the map...
05-07-2013, 08:12 PM
Blackwolfe

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Originally Posted by Shawnchapp

This!

I'm still wondering what the hell happened to them adding labels/makers on the map...

Somewhere, in the deepest darkest pits of the trion offices.. there is a map.. with labels on it. This must be what they are referring to. That map is cursed and if any dev would speak of it ever again, a plague would be unleashed upon the world.

Most likely the reason why they have been dodging questions about it. All sorts of pointless questions that's pretty much common knowledge by now in the defiance community was answered in the livestreams, but the question about the labels on the map.. goes unanswered.
05-07-2013, 08:17 PM
Ryan

The illusive 'Frieght Magnate" achievement will finally be unlockable.
I'm excited, I didn't have a chance to try Freight yard when it can back up so I hope it's fun.
05-07-2013, 08:20 PM
Nerotic

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Originally Posted by Multigun

Ya but the "general community" will have the biggest hissy fit of all time whenever they don't meet the expected date. I'm going to guess you weren't around for the whole 1.010 patch fiasco. Dev's said they would release the patch on a "Monday or possibly next day" for the patch. People went freakazoid when Monday came around and no patch was released. (like seriously freaked the heck out. I saw a post as early as 8:00 PM PST Sunday DEMANDING to know where the patch was because it was Monday for "them" ) The patch released the very next day. Trion said they hoped to have the second big patch at the end of April. People wen't freakazoid when that wasn't met either (though not as bad as the first time). I think Trion would be wise NOT to release any ETA what so ever.

The general community is already having an epic hissy ..looking for a reason not feel like a sucker for buying a game with a lot of potential but very little off the wonderfulness it needs to survive as anything more than an online playground for negected morons
05-07-2013, 08:21 PM
ToneSim

Wasn't it said somewhere that they were going to use alpha servers to test new patches? I would hope so, perhaps we could be more certain that far less new issues would arise in the patch.
05-07-2013, 08:21 PM
Shawnchapp

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Originally Posted by Blackwolfe

Most likely the reason why they have been dodging questions about it.

exactly why I'm getting upset with the DEV team... i can deal with them saying sorry we weren't able to add certain things due to complications but to flat out refuse to answer to it and ignore that certain things were mentioned in the notes like we all read wrong is an entirely different thing.
05-07-2013, 08:27 PM
Hiero Glyph

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Originally Posted by Shawnchapp

This!

I'm still wondering what the hell happened to them adding labels/makers on the map...

It will probably be added as 'content' at a later date.
05-07-2013, 08:29 PM
Rasczak

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Originally Posted by Ichidakiller

quoted just because you should change the sig
"Come on your apes! You wanna whine forever" that's more fitting on these forums not that your whining just goes along with the more vocal community members.

Hahahaha! That is true.

Off topic, though, do you know where my forum name and sig come from? :cool:

Hint: The moment I realized in the game we would be killing massive amounts of "bugs" I thought it fitting. At first, I was thinking Hellbugs, but then I got to know how the Dev team works and it took on an entirely new meaning. ;)
05-07-2013, 08:31 PM
Ryan

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Originally Posted by Rasczak

Hahahaha! That is true.

Off topic, though, do you know where my forum name and sig come from? :cool:

Hint: The moment I realized in the game we would be killing massive amounts of "bugs" I thought it fitting. At first, I was thinking Hellbugs, but then I got to know how the Dev team works and it took on an entirely new meaning. ;)

Starship troopers is a good movie.
05-07-2013, 08:36 PM
Rasczak

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

Yeah, don't need to be reminded of that little sneak preview where they were say "there's 9 pages of notes" and that this is just a preview and not the finale patch notes, then when the final patch notes rolls around, they were pretty much identical(I went back to look for the preview post and it vanished, kind of funny) Seems to be the running trend when they say something is going to change and it ends up being the same.

Rather be surprised instead of let down, again. So the bar is already low.

Oh come on. After the whole "This Beta version is not everything you will see in the Live version" line they fed everyone, you're surprised by that?
05-07-2013, 08:37 PM
Rasczak

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Starship troopers is a good movie.

It was even a better book (but yes, I love the film, too). :cool:

I'm also a huge fan of Joe Haldeman's Forever War. Liking those two books is a rarity for me. Typically, I am not into military science fiction.
05-07-2013, 08:41 PM
Arsenic_Touch

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Originally Posted by Rasczak

Oh come on. After the whole "This Beta version is not everything you will see in the Live version" line they fed everyone, you're surprised by that?

I bought the "this is just a beta" speech, even repeated it a few times and gave people grief about judging the game before it went live. I even believed sledge when he said weapons and weapon stats weren't the same in the live game. Then I believed sledge when he brought up the 9 pages of notes and changes.

But once I hit like 1200 ego and downed nim (downed nim at about 1230 ego rating with every co-op done at least 10 times with every side mission done) I realized that I was so wrong then.

A great man once said "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." this quote comes to mind.
05-07-2013, 08:42 PM
Ryan

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Originally Posted by Rasczak

It was even a better book (but yes, I love the film, too). :cool:

I'm also a huge fan of Joe Haldeman's Forever War. Liking those two books is a rarity for me. Typically, I am not into military science fiction.

Anything with space and aliens, and I'll give it a try.
05-07-2013, 08:50 PM
Rasczak

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Anything with space and aliens, and I'll give it a try.

Bear in mind, the Starship Troopers book was used as base inspiration for the film. The two are as different in tone, style, and story as night is to day.

Incidentally, it's the same thing that happened with World War Z between the Max Brooks novel and the upcoming film.

But that's fine. Honestly, not every book translates to film very well. I can attest to this when I did several drafts of the Nine Princes in Amber screenplay for Warner Brothers in the late 1990s or so. The Chronicles of Amber was one of my favorite series of all time. I was friends with Roger Zelazny and learned a lot of the craft and business tips from him. But they most definitely did not translate directly into film format very well.

I was already moved on from the job by the time Warner Brothers just let the rights lapse.
05-07-2013, 10:07 PM
Viryu

It took only 40 days or so to notice the message spam, sigh. At least it's finally going to be fixed, it was annoying. Though again, really small patch notes.

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