Patch 1.014 Discussion

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Originally Posted by Rasczak

It was even a better book (but yes, I love the film, too). :cool:

I'm also a huge fan of Joe Haldeman's Forever War. Liking those two books is a rarity for me. Typically, I am not into military science fiction.

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Shuffling through Amazon now. Starship Troopers is like... yes. Oh god yes. If there's another thing like it?

Ooh, Kindle for $5! SUMMON CALIBRE SEND TO NOOK.

Sledge when r they going to be fixing this issue. I dont think its worth moding a gun if the said scope put a negative to accuracy.

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Patch 1.020 will bring a lot of items, fixes and major changes.

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Major changes you say? Dear Trion, I know you're trying to do your best, but do you really (!) think that one warfront, more hellbugs on the map, 5 small fixes (yes, I consider them small as there are so much more important things to fix) and one new outfit is 'major changes'? And if you remember how 'many' people play PvP in Defiance now, it is even worse (all the same people every day, about 60-70 ppl on each arkfall and loooong time waiting for pvp say it all). There are some reasons for terrible PvP but I don't want to repeat it again.

There's no high-end content.
I got nothing to do in the game. I did all the quests - the story line and all the side missions. I did all racing. I did all hot shots and rampages. I've levelled up 5 kinds of weapons just for the sake of pursuits (aimless klling mobs for hours).

And now you say I can wear a new outfit. Doing nothing. I am playing, I am playing!

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Originally Posted by Johahhah

Major changes you say? Dear Trion, I know you're trying to do your best, but do you really (!) think that one warfront, more hellbugs on the map, 5 small fixes (yes, I consider them small as there are so much more important things to fix) and one new outfit is 'major changes'? And if you remember how 'many' people play PvP in Defiance now, it is even worse (all the same people every day, about 60-70 ppl on each arkfall and loooong time waiting for pvp say it all). There are some reasons for terrible PvP but I don't want to repeat it again.

There's no high-end content.
I got nothing to do in the game. I did all the quests - the story line and all the side missions. I did all racing. I did all hot shots and rampages. I've levelled up 5 kinds of weapons just for the sake of pursuits (aimless klling mobs for hours).

And now you say I can wear a new outfit. Doing nothing. I am playing, I am playing!

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Oh, I'm sure they're aware there's a sizable group of people out there that have a gigantic vote of no confidence in Trion's updates so far. I very much look forward to seeing how they address this with 1.02.

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

Possibly, but most likely not. As we work to release Patch 1.020 this month, some of the smaller patches might get rolled into the 1.020 update. This will all depend on how approvals line up to the release schedule our development team is working towards.

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Remind me to never again play a multi-platform MMO.

It Would Be Nice To Get That Skin By Finishing Hold And Capture Finally!

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Originally Posted by Swag

Remind me to never again play a multi-platform MMO.

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At least he's giving the most direct answer he possibly can. Blame the esteemed platform gatekeepers.

bonjour, je voudrais savoir quand et a quelle heure va être mis en place le patch 1.014 ? est-ce que ce sera toute les plateformes en même temps ? Merci d'avance pour vos réponse

j'ais trouver les réponses j'avais pas assez chercher desoler

It should be up right now on EU servers, seems like it was a serverside patch only though so there was no need to patch the client itself, which why we never had to download the patch.

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Originally Posted by Johahhah

Major changes you say? Dear Trion, I know you're trying to do your best, but do you really (!) think that one warfront, more hellbugs on the map, 5 small fixes (yes, I consider them small as there are so much more important things to fix) and one new outfit is 'major changes'? And if you remember how 'many' people play PvP in Defiance now, it is even worse (all the same people every day, about 60-70 ppl on each arkfall and loooong time waiting for pvp say it all). There are some reasons for terrible PvP but I don't want to repeat it again.

There's no high-end content.
I got nothing to do in the game. I did all the quests - the story line and all the side missions. I did all racing. I did all hot shots and rampages. I've levelled up 5 kinds of weapons just for the sake of pursuits (aimless klling mobs for hours).

And now you say I can wear a new outfit. Doing nothing. I am playing, I am playing!

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*facedesks through floor*

so the changes and fixes implemented in the next small patch are not major enough for the next big patch in which no details are yet given.

So fkking just......so........

You obviously need this spelled out for you. The details given here ARE NOT FOR 1.02, YOU (CENSORED).
If you weren't so fired up and ready to get cracking on crapping on the dev team's effort, perhaps you might have actually read Sledge's post and figured that out for yourself.

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Originally Posted by Schwa

At least he's giving the most direct answer he possibly can. Blame the esteemed platform gatekeepers.

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Because a) Not having gatekeepers has worked out so well thus far for the PC gamers who keep banging that drum, and/or b) Trion said they were still doing internal testing right up until the day before the big PS3 patch was finally released, which puts a strong odor of powshtako around their fanboys' implications that Sony had something to do with the delay.

But hey, thanks for beta testing our patches.

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Originally Posted by Blackwolfe

It should be up right now on EU servers, seems like it was a serverside patch only though so there was no need to patch the client itself, which why we never had to download the patch.

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It's not up yet on EU. It's due on 3 AM CET on May 9th. That's an issue basing it on California's date. When it's 6PM PT May 8, it's 3 AM CET May 9th.
http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...3-amp-Xbox-360
"Server Update: May 8th 6:00PM PT (1AM GMT, 3AM Paris) - EU PC, PS3 & Xbox 360"

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

As our team works towards the next major patch release 1.020 (details coming soon). We are working to provide smaller updates and hot-fix issues that can be addressed server side only.

DEFIANCE Patch 1.014

- Freight Yard is back...again.
- Svushinnira, “the rain of pollution”, grows ever more severe. Horribly mutated Hellbugs dot the Paradise landscape as the Hellbug mating season continues. Nano-effect imbued Hellbugs are now more common and many familiar encounters now carry a new and dangerous change. This includes more Electric and Syphon Monarchs and mutated Hellbugs now appearing at Parraba Ranch, Happy Pow, Bug Basin, Ridgecrest Mine, Big Stone Reach, and Diablo Station.
- Completing Ranks of Echelon now gives you a second outfit to equip in competitive matches.
- Some EGO rating 1900 to 2000 weapons were not getting their rarity bonus’s appropriately. This is now fixed.
- Fixed a crash that could occur when hitting Ctrl-Q.
- Fixed a crash that could occur when resetting missions.
- Fixed a crash associated with Dogtown Mine.
- Removed some of the level up spam that happened upon load in.

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If your looking into the spawns, then could you lower the spawn rate on some? Those "emergencies" people can find all over the map(roads etc.)

You can find one and when you almost done with one, then a new spawns right on top of you and the spot the other is. It is really a pain in the smaholy.

Thank you, Sledge. We appreciate the update. Looking forward to seeing what is in store with 1.020.

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Originally Posted by Neptonius

If your looking into the spawns, then could you lower the spawn rate on some? Those "emergencies" people can find all over the map(roads etc.)

You can find one and when you almost done with one, then a new spawns right on top of you and the spot the other is. It is really a pain in the smaholy.

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Especially when the one you just finished was hard as all, hardly any ammo left, shields and health are a little beat, and the new spawn has you in the center.

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Originally Posted by baelrusk

Especially when the one you just finished was hard as all, hardly any ammo left, shields and health are a little beat, and the new spawn has you in the center.

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Thats one of the main reasons i equiped "cloak" when i drive around and do them, tho, sometimes i get those dot's on me and it really kills me lol Then just hold E down and res ...
It's fun and at the same time a pain to run into those quick re-spawns.

Thanks for the update.

If patch 1.020 will be huge and functional you'll stand a god Sledge :P

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

- Completing Ranks of Echelon now gives you a second outfit to equip in competitive matches.

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So those outfits aren't for PvE?

Half of them are the same exact outfits you already have unlocked in PvP.

just gotta hope that this "big" patch isnt anythign liek the last one which didnt touch thecore issues.

And hopefully no more pvp based weapon nerfs anymore... tho thats just a dream.

So, why were all of the changes done in patch 1.014 not disclosed with the rest of the patch notes? This leads me to think that the dev team is trying to hide what changes are being implemented.

For instance, the changes to Mine 99 keycodes and xp, as well as the changes people are seeing on the shotgun +magazine mods (which changed from +x magazine size to x1.05).

These are things that we as players should know about.

Still no Damn Defense? I'd really like to finish that bit off so I can get my outfit.

i agree with the dam defense and what about the salvage matrix eating weapons can we please get this game fixed and move on before all my friends quit on me

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Originally Posted by FattyMcG33

So, why were all of the changes done in patch 1.014 not disclosed with the rest of the patch notes? This leads me to think that the dev team is trying to hide what changes are being implemented.

For instance, the changes to Mine 99 keycodes and xp, as well as the changes people are seeing on the shotgun +magazine mods (which changed from +x magazine size to x1.05).

These are things that we as players should know about.

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Don't forget the inflated vendor prices. So much for patch notes containing everything they change and Trion not doing any ninja patches. Well, wouldn't be the first time.

Game still crashes with Control + Q

When are you guys going to address these annoyances...

1. World objects and your own character disappearing in certain portions of the world
2. 6th perk constantly disappearing
3. Side missions you have already done coming back

They do? I'd love for sidemissions that I've already done coming back! Some of them are really fun.

Thanks for the update. For the most part progress has been a secret (ie. the Season Pass). There would be fewer complaints if we had more detailed info about progress. So, thanks for the update.

Oh yeah Freight Yard crashed for me. Don't know if it was a one off thing.

Patch should have reduced the maximum plus not changed it to a percentage in regards to shotguns

Heya Sledge. Thanks a ton for the info!

Great to see that you actually read through these posts and even answer questions (twice sometimes!). That shows a certain level of communication and dedication to the fans that I don't see on many official game forums.

I am still happily (slowly) devouring the available content. Glitches and all, I am really enjoying the game.

Keep it up!

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Originally Posted by Harnace

Bets on how long Freight Yard will be in the game before it's out again?

1 day?!

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Originally Posted by Sanguinesun

I can name that tune in 5 hours :P

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Damn Im good! :)

A shame mind you that it happened but thats how the cookie crumbles.

Thanks for the update, Sledge!

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

As our team works towards the next major patch release 1.020 (details coming soon). We are working to provide smaller updates and hot-fix issues that can be addressed server side only.

DEFIANCE Patch 1.014

- Freight Yard is back...again.
- Svushinnira, “the rain of pollution”, grows ever more severe. Horribly mutated Hellbugs dot the Paradise landscape as the Hellbug mating season continues. Nano-effect imbued Hellbugs are now more common and many familiar encounters now carry a new and dangerous change. This includes more Electric and Syphon Monarchs and mutated Hellbugs now appearing at Parraba Ranch, Happy Pow, Bug Basin, Ridgecrest Mine, Big Stone Reach, and Diablo Station.
- Completing Ranks of Echelon now gives you a second outfit to equip in competitive matches.
- Some EGO rating 1900 to 2000 weapons were not getting their rarity bonus’s appropriately. This is now fixed.
- Fixed a crash that could occur when hitting Ctrl-Q.
- Fixed a crash that could occur when resetting missions.
- Fixed a crash associated with Dogtown Mine.
- Removed some of the level up spam that happened upon load in.

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I really loved it that FY came back (but now I'm sad). I would've loved it more if the sniper scope mods were fixed. It has to be one of the most frustrating aspects of weapon faults (that and the reloading issue - I re-reloaded 15 times in a row earlier).

You left out some of the patch notes. tsk tsk.

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-Shotgun +mag bonuses no longer give direct mag size increases (such as +5 and +9), but now multiply the current mag size (such as x1.05 and x1.10).
-Vehicle prices at vehicle vendors have been increased substantially.
-Vehicle vendors now have vehicle specials.
-Vehicle specials no longer appear at the discounted price of 500 scrip, and instead reflect a price slightly lower than normal.
-XP and Keycode rewards upon completion of Mine 99 have been cut in half.

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

Don't forget the inflated vendor prices. So much for patch notes containing everything they change and Trion not doing any ninja patches. Well, wouldn't be the first time.

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yea this, vehicles prices now range from 23000 to 29000, and "specials" are now 15000 instead of 500.
I don't really mind the changes but i have to wonder why they do these and more changes so sneakily.
Do they really think that people won't notice, how idiotic is that.

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Originally Posted by skepticck

yea this, vehicles prices now range from 23000 to 29000, and "specials" are now 15000 instead of 500.
I don't really mind the changes but i have to wonder why they do these and more changes so sneakily.
Do they really think that people won't notice, how idiotic is that.

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What's worse is none of these vehicles are able to be traded so they just did it to make the Challenger "special event" look like a good value. This type of change was concealed to prevent players from purchasing the items from vendors at the regular price, which was lower than the new specials. Trion purposely screwed over the entire population with this change.

EDIT: Mind you, level 1 mods still appear in the shops as a special.

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Originally Posted by Hiero Glyph

What's worse is none of these items are able to be traded so they just did it to make the Challenger "special event" look like a good value. This type of change was concealed to prevent players from purchasing the items from vendors at the regular price, which was lower than the new specials. Trion purposely screwed over the entire population with this change.

EDIt: Mind you, level 1 mods still appear in the shops as a special.

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You do have to admit, though, lots of people were saying scrip was worthless... now we have a reason to save it (well... kinda).

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Originally Posted by IntenseSpirit

You do have to admit, though, lots of people were saying scrip was worthless... now we have a reason to save it (well... kinda).

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Scrip is still worthless because there is no sink in the game. This change doesn't change that fact, it only highlights Trion's deceptive practices. At this point we simply cannot trust Trion, they have proven this time and time again with ninja nerfs and then denying such things. Regarding region lock, Trion blamed MS for this and then deleted both the tweets and forums threads that contained this information. Trion later stated that region lock is fully under their control. Behavior such as this proves how Trion plans to handle the community: with deception, not truth.

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Originally Posted by IntenseSpirit

You do have to admit, though, lots of people were saying scrip was worthless... now we have a reason to save it (well... kinda).

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Kinda is right seeing as you are handed a runner in the first campaign mission and then when your 2/3rds into san fran your handed a free duni so with patience you don't have to hand out any scrip at all.

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Originally Posted by Wraieth

Sledge i mean no disrespect but when are we going to hear about important things? like chat being fixed episode missions being implemented ? And the other huge problems with the game. Sure the hell bugs are fun but they arnt enough to ignore the core problems..

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I was thinking the same thing.

Come on. 30k scrips for a vehicle? Seriously, WTF?
Please, Trion. Stop make this game more ****tier by stealth patch-ing.
Just focus on fix these tens of thousands of bugs and glitches.