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  • 07-08-2013, 10:58 AM
    DEATHBR1NGER 37
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    Originally Posted by X64 View Post
    Liar.



    And a week after that it'll screw up your newly discovered pattern and you'll lose your mind and become one of them whiners.

    Please don't, we've already got too much of that army.

    Please show me where I said there was a pattern.
  • 07-12-2013, 05:01 AM
    Thearl
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    Originally Posted by Thearl View Post
    Ditto.

    I bought 8 tier 4's over the holiday weekend. Every time it was B,B,B,G. Oranges stopped popping for me at EGO 2000. I don't know if thats a coincidence. We'll find out when the DLC drops and I roll a Casti.

    I still feel like calling Shenannigans. 6 lockboxes since Monday - 4 EGO 2600, 2 EGO 550. 4 were B,B,B,G; 1 was P,B,G,G; and the last of the EGO 550s got the purchase bug where your keys disappear and no items are picked up.
    The sheer number of incidents of B,B,B,G feels like a broken RNG algorithm.

    Are all the B,B,B,Gs on PC? Are oranges rare/uncommon on Console platforms and the PC version returning flawed patterns?
    Should a tier 4 at least have a guaranteed purple?
  • 07-12-2013, 05:10 AM
    Maitreakow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Thearl View Post
    I still feel like calling Shenannigans. 6 lockboxes since Monday - 4 EGO 2600, 2 EGO 550. 4 were B,B,B,G; 1 was P,B,G,G; and the last of the EGO 550s got the purchase bug where your keys disappear and no items are picked up.
    The sheer number of incidents of B,B,B,G feels like a broken RNG algorithm.

    Are all the B,B,B,Gs on PC? Are oranges rare/uncommon on Console platforms and the PC version returning flawed patterns?
    Should a tier 4 at least have a guaranteed purple?

    No guaranteed anything, but here are your odds for color at each tier of lockbox.

    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...h-Lockbox-tier
  • 07-12-2013, 05:14 AM
    Tekrunner
    It's entirely possible that the BBBG pattern is more probable than others because of the way the algorithm works. Maybe the first 2 items have a higher chance of being blue or purple, and the last one green or orange. But again, unless you start to precisely keep track of what you get, you can only speculate.

    What I do know is that I just got my 5th orange (a VBI guided launcher, no less) in the past week, over maybe 12 - 15 T4 lockboxes. So I just can't help but think that random is random.
  • 07-12-2013, 05:18 AM
    BONNY
    Soon as i open a Tier 4 box from a lock box and the first is a blue i know the rest will be BBG ALWAYS.

    But i find the Tier 4 Boxes from the store more random and i have found 4 off my 6 oranges from the store boxes,.
  • 07-12-2013, 05:18 AM
    Aeothena
    Only drawn orange during loot weekend when they bumped the odds on loot and lockboxes (I got 2 and have never got another since). How I regret I didn't grind scrip and arksalvage and bought a 100 T3 that weekend. Bought a couple of T4 with the keys you're getting from the replay missions and the missions themsleves last night.

    First was g,g,g,b
    Second was g,g,b,p

    None with a good synery so all was scrapped for new arksalvage again.



    When I buy T3, they are mostly b,b,p
    Some rare ones gives g,b,b

    So, my experience is that T3 gives more blue and purple than T4 does...
  • 07-12-2013, 05:20 AM
    Giren
    Since I started on may 8th I bought over 500 tier 3 boxes here is what I got:
    3 legendaries:
    1 courier
    1 incubator
    1 tacc auto pistol

    75 purple

    The rest blue or green

    Other then the first 2 days I started playing the game it took me 2 months to get my 3d orange weapon

    In the same time I also bought about 15 tier 4 boxes and got nothing but, purple, purple, blue/green, purple
  • 07-12-2013, 06:05 AM
    Thearl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maitreakow View Post
    No guaranteed anything, but here are your odds for color at each tier of lockbox.

    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...h-Lockbox-tier

    (I think the link is broken, but I have read that set of data)
    Keep in mind, I'm not crying about no oranges. I'm concerned about the actual RNG. Starting about 1.020 when loot drops were tuned, I started seeing the repeating pattern of B,B,B,G. (On PC) I can't tell if the box stat threads are mixed platforms or single platform datum. I started keeping track of my boxes the first week of June after two straight weeks of B,B,B,G boxes, so I have about 20 data points to shove into mini-tab. I'll run the stats myself when I hit 100 data points.
  • 07-12-2013, 06:06 AM
    JDF
    After weeks of getting a massive amount of BBBG from opening 2 tier 4's a day, not all but I would say at least 90%, for the past 2 days I switched to opening 6 tier 3's a day. I've got 2 oranges from the 12 tier 3's and a few purples...its definitely more random on tier 3's from my experiences
  • 07-12-2013, 06:19 AM
    Maitreakow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Thearl View Post
    (I think the link is broken, but I have read that set of data)
    Keep in mind, I'm not crying about no oranges. I'm concerned about the actual RNG. Starting about 1.020 when loot drops were tuned, I started seeing the repeating pattern of B,B,B,G. (On PC) I can't tell if the box stat threads are mixed platforms or single platform datum. I started keeping track of my boxes the first week of June after two straight weeks of B,B,B,G boxes, so I have about 20 data points to shove into mini-tab. I'll run the stats myself when I hit 100 data points.

    Sorry here is a working link.

    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...t=lockbox+tier
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