Freight Yard Update (Punching Sharks)

In patch 1.013 our team resolved major issues around Freight Yard that caused players to spawn into matches with other players being invisible. We also addressed issues that allowed players to exploit Freight Yard as they were completing the instance on their own. In patch 1.014 our team addressed direct issues around server crashes that caused players to get freezing errors and hard crashes that booted them from the instance.

But today’s re re release of Freight Yard has exposed a critical bug that we were unable to see until the map was released onto our live servers. The issue specifically revolves around Infectors. In short, a lot of you are using these awesome weapons, so much so that the instance was not designed to handle the amount of infection going on with 16 players. We have a fix for this, but it is a client side fix and not one we can hot fix on the servers directly. We plan to apply this update in our upcoming 1.020 patch that will arrive this month.

We appreciate your feedback and patience around this issue and we look forward to improving your experience in Defiance daily.

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Thanks for the very informative update!

excuses!!!

I can only access Freightyard through quick match, what's up?

Thanks for the update. Love the sarcasm, too. "...these awesome weapons..." Ha!.

Maybe a reason to look into why exactly so many people seem to use infectors. I guess if other weapons than infectors and shotguns were more viable...

Just saying. Anyway, good job. Would be better if we had an ETA for 1.020, but still. Good Job.

Although the fact the engine isn't able to handle infections on such a scale makes me not very hopeful for the Draw Distance - which is a major, major problem for people trying their hands at long-range combat (80 meter character model Draw Distance in the Overworld on Consoles is NOT long range).

I had hoped that maybe with the limited but spacious map, Freight Yard's Draw Distance would be an increase over PVE or Shadow Wars...

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

In patch 1.013 our team resolved major issues around Freight Yard that caused players to spawn into matches with other players being invisible. We also addressed issues that allowed players to exploit Freight Yard as they were completing the instance on their own. In patch 1.014 our team addressed direct issues around server crashes that caused players to get freezing errors and hard crashes that booted them from the instance.

But today’s re re release of Freight Yard has exposed a critical bug that we were unable to see until the map was released onto our live servers. The issue specifically revolves around Infectors. In short, a lot of you are using these awesome weapons, so much so that the instance was not designed to handle the amount of infection going on with 16 players. We have a fix for this, but it is a client side fix and not one we can hot fix on the servers directly. We plan to apply this update in our upcoming 1.020 patch that will arrive this month.

We appreciate your feedback and patience around this issue and we look forward to improving your experience in Defiance daily.

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Are you telling me freightyard was once again pulled out before europeans had a chance to touch it?

Lets be realistic here, how many of these **** ups do you really think you can get away with before you entirely submerge this virtual titanic or perhaps I should say tritanic?

I'm so happy I didn't buy the season pass and I won't be buying any dlc for defiance. They can eat a cold hotdog with warm mayonnaise on it.

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

In patch 1.013 our team resolved major issues around Freight Yard that caused players to spawn into matches with other players being invisible. We also addressed issues that allowed players to exploit Freight Yard as they were completing the instance on their own. In patch 1.014 our team addressed direct issues around server crashes that caused players to get freezing errors and hard crashes that booted them from the instance.

But today’s re re release of Freight Yard has exposed a critical bug that we were unable to see until the map was released onto our live servers. The issue specifically revolves around Infectors. In short, a lot of you are using these awesome weapons, so much so that the instance was not designed to handle the amount of infection going on with 16 players. We have a fix for this, but it is a client side fix and not one we can hot fix on the servers directly. We plan to apply this update in our upcoming 1.020 patch that will arrive this month.

We appreciate your feedback and patience around this issue and we look forward to improving your experience in Defiance daily.

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Please fix the things you can fix first. Then at least we would have some progress :(. *Most notably sniper scope mods and the reloading bug.

Sledge, i think the higher powers are telling Trion Freight Yard is not to be, why not disable infectors inside Freightyard and keep it in? Unless thats not physically possible?

One second, gota lift my pant legs, the rats are trying to flee this sinking ship.

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Originally Posted by ghost

I'm so happy I didn't buy the season pass and I won't be buying any dlc for defiance. They can eat a cold hotdog with warm mayonnaise on it.

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That sounds delicious

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Originally Posted by IAMVILELENT

One second, gota lift my pant legs, the rats are trying to flee this sinking ship.

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Oh so true. Game is garbage.

Well there is just one word missing in patch notes then ....

DEFIANCE Patch 1.014

- Freight Yard is NOT back...again.
- Svushinnira, “the rain of pollution”, grows ever more severe. Horribly mutated Hellbugs dot the Paradise landscape as the Hellbug mating season continues. Nano-effect imbued Hellbugs are now more common and many familiar encounters now carry a new and dangerous change. This includes more Electric and Syphon Monarchs and mutated Hellbugs now appearing at Parraba Ranch, Happy Pow, Bug Basin, Ridgecrest Mine, Big Stone Reach, and Diablo Station.
- Completing Ranks of Echelon now gives you a second outfit to equip in competitive matches.
- Some EGO rating 1900 to 2000 weapons were not getting their rarity bonus’s appropriately. This is now fixed.
- Fixed a crash that could occur when hitting Ctrl-Q.
- Fixed a crash that could occur when resetting missions.
- Fixed a crash associated with Dogtown Mine.
- Removed some of the level up spam that happened upon load in.

LOL.

Wow what a joke.

What a horrible game. And by a company that I used to think of as decent, but now think of as complete garbage.

Tone it down a notch there Munx. Foul language even censored is not needed. There has been several screw ups but its what you are bound to get when you try to release something this big on a console system such as XBOX 360 and PS3.

Yes these screw ups are extremely annoying and frustrating and the fact that a decent hand full of pursuits are currently impossible to complete because of said screw ups. I doubt this game will sink anytime soon. It's what countless people have wanted and been waiting for. Just they need to be patient tell things can be fine tuned and worked out. This isnt your once a year recycled CoD crap game. It's brand new and a MMO so its a never ending game story wise and PvP wise least tell they halt DLC's. So these things are totally trial and error especially attempting to fix things while servers are live.

Basically we were unknowing beta testers for that short time Freight Yard was up. And the sheer amount of people using infectors, specificall Immunizers because of their homing range being a big fat 40 really gummed up everything cause its an extremly abused weapon unfortunately it basically had to deal with almost every player in the match using them. Honestly with the nerf Infectors got they are still OP for PvP but thats how the game is so they have to fix it to revolve around what people are using. Which just so happens to be graphically intense.

Back to the original point tho. Cursing and yelling at Dev's does nothing for you or them. So lets talk like big kids. Give them helpful feedback instead of negative comments.

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Originally Posted by Dyne

Oh so true. Game is garbage.

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Game has potential, shame the dev team continues to fall flat on theyr face, patch after patch.


Edit: SYN, Oh yeah, god forbid I use the word f*** on the forums of a game that use similar words in theyr cutscenes on a REGULAR basis, or even a game where you can literally blow the heads of enemies and watch a fountain of blood afterwards.

Also I am not on a 360 or PS3, I expect a game worthy of the pc platform, the game being on other platforms is not my problem!

You want me to have patience? I have been here since the start, only to see trion screw it up time after time, Its not my job to pat trion on the back and tell them "hey, Its ok to fail time after time" I am a consumeer, I payed for a working product not for a beta, and right now like you pointed out yourself this is basicly a beta (a bad one at that).

I have also likely been a part of more mmo launches and betas then yourself, and while bad launches are quite common, bad patching priority and quality is something the defiance team have become experts at.

Trion has had over a month now, the game obviously shouldn't be close to perfect yet, but look at how little progress they've actually made, its a joke.

The big majority of patches are **** ups, Im not gonna sugarcoat it to avoid "hurting trions feelings".

And it obviously dosn't help that europe keeps getting the short end of the broken stick.

SledgeHammer, a great joker :D

Thanks for the update! I figured it would be going back down when 5 out of 7 matches I tried for Freight resulted in Defiance crashing lol

DEFIANCE Patch 1.014

- Freight Yard is NOT back...again.
- Svushinnira, “the rain of pollution”, grows ever more severe. Horribly mutated Hellbugs dot the Paradise landscape as the Hellbug mating season continues. In other words, instead of adding any form of new content to our bugged game, we just added minor elemental effects to pre existing enemies.
- Completing Ranks of Echelon now gives you a second outfit to equip in competitive matches, too bad you can't complete them!
- Some EGO rating 1900 to 2000 weapons were not getting their rarity bonus’s appropriately. This is now fixed. However level 50 guns are still in many cases better than weapons of this level.
- Fixed a crash that could occur when hitting Ctrl-Q, however you probably will miss being randomly ejected from our horrible game.
- Fixed a crash that could occur when resetting missions.
- Fixed a crash associated with Dogtown Mine. We will also reward a gold star to anyone who knows where Dogtown Mine is located, or cares about it whatsoever.
- Removed some of the level up spam that happened upon load in, now the game should only randomly spam helpful tips like how to join a PvP match, rather than telling you that you are level 800 repeatedly when you are actually level 2000.

Damn you really need to open up a Public Test Shard. It'll do you all a world of good.

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Originally Posted by Chemikz

Damn you really need to open up a Public Test Shard. It'll do you all a world of good.

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This, i don't care if patches are moved back a month to get the test server up and running if it helps detect these embarassing issues then im all for it. Using a Live Server (specifically the NA server) as a testing ground is pissing off your players.

Just imagine after this game goes down in flames, members of Trion's Dev team attempting to get hired at a new job.

Interviewer: So, lets start the interview, what previous experience do you have?
Dev: Well, I helped to design, and patch the hit game Defiance!
Interviewer: Thanks. We'll call you if we're interested. Don't leave any messages on our machine.

Will patch 1.020 also bring in all these synergy mods that we cannot access?

Well done Sledge, you have balls of steel braving this lot. Well, e-balls of e-steel.

Anyhow I'm in agreement with the Test Server, you clearly have players who are willing to get in on this and help the game flourish so go for it I say!

lol e-balls xD

I think the proper southern expression to use right now is, "bless your heart."

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Originally Posted by Schwa

I think the proper southern expression to use right now is, "bless your heart."

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The Welsh saying is "Awh bless your cotton socks"

So, in the meantime, hows about taking freight yard out of the pursuits? I really want the Echelon outfit and every time Freight Yard is back up for a tiny bit I am at work and can't play.

EDIT Holy crap, I just saw what the echelon outfit is now, and I want it even more! Come on guys, all I need is a cap and hold, just give me the suit. Please?

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Originally Posted by OldGuyWithStick

So, in the meantime, hows about taking freight yard out of the pursuits? I really want the Echelon outfit and every time Freight Yard is back up for a tiny bit I am at work and can't play.

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That would be "unfair" to the americans that were able to sneak in and finish theyr pursuits in the hours freightyard was up.

Is there no way to just block infector use till 1.020 is released ?.I really want to play this because i hate basic deathmatch in any game (i am fairly good at it,it just bores me without objectives).Both times it has been ripped back out before we of the EU can even try it.Also,if you missed this last time,whats to say there aren't other problems that may be found by keeping it on which would lead to fixes being found sooner than putting it back in again and having to rip it again.

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Originally Posted by Munx

Edit: SYN, Oh yeah, god forbid I use the word f*** on the forums of a game that use similar words in theyr cutscenes on a REGULAR basis, or even a game where you can literally blow the heads of enemies and watch a fountain of blood afterwards.

Also I am not on a 360 or PS3, I expect a game worthy of the pc platform, the game being on other platforms is not my problem!

You want me to have patience? I have been here since the start, only to see trion screw it up time after time, Its not my job to pat trion on the back and tell them "hey, Its ok to fail time after time" I am a consumeer, I payed for a working product not for a beta, and right now like you pointed out yourself this is basicly a beta (a bad one at that).

I have also likely been a part of more mmo launches and betas then yourself, and while bad launches are quite common, bad patching priority and quality is something the defiance team have become experts at.

Trion has had over a month now, the game obviously shouldn't be close to perfect yet, but look at how little progress they've actually made, its a joke.

The big majority of patches are **** ups, Im not gonna sugarcoat it to avoid "hurting trions feelings".

And it obviously dosn't help that europe keeps getting the short end of the broken stick.

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Oh sweet jebus you have been apart of SO MANY MMO launches and beta's. Cool story bro. The fact of the matter is regardless of what platform you play on or how much experience you say you have with such games that you wanna show off about. Your not a programmer. you have not invested anywhere near as many hours as they have simply making this game. And heck if ya dont like it that much. Then stop playing it and do us a favor of one less person who complains all the dang time.

On a side note. If you are a programmer. Inquire about a job to help work on a game you are appearing to be very passionate about.

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Originally Posted by Munx

That would be "unfair" to the americans that were able to sneak in and finish theyr pursuits in the hours freightyard was up.

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Well, I mostly meant just the first one. All that's left is one match. How long could a match of C&H possibly take that they would be "cheated" out of?

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Originally Posted by SYN Fifty

Oh sweet jebus you have been apart of SO MANY MMO launches and beta's. Cool story bro. The fact of the matter is regardless of what platform you play on or how much experience you say you have with such games that you wanna show off about. Your not a programmer. you have not invested anywhere near as many hours as they have simply making this game. And heck if ya dont like it that much. Then stop playing it and do us a favor of one less person who complains all the dang time.

On a side note. If you are a programmer. Inquire about a job to help work on a game you are appearing to be very passionate about.

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Let's get one thing straight right of the bat, this is not a hobby project for trion, Its a JOB! Like any other consumeer I have a right to expect a working product, and while I realise mmo's have teething issues, this goes sooo far beyond simple teething issues, my problem is not with there being teething issue, the problem is with trions very clear inability to correct those teething issues, and theyr absurd focus on nerfing keycodes to boost lockbox sales.

And no, I am not a programmer, however like most people around here I have a job, and I like most people are held to a certain standard when it comes to the workmanship involved in my job.

Your white knight bull would be fine if this was a mod where people invested theyr own personal time into a free product, but that is most definatly not the case here.

If you really think that people leaving the game because they were vocally unhappy with the current product is beneficial to the game, then you are truely ignorant.


Edit: OldGuy I was being sarcastic in that reply.

I figured, but I do think it would make more sense just to take it out of the one, since the rest take a lot more play time.

Plus, if they were all available, I might be compelled to do them, and really I don't want to have to play more than one match of Cloaks 'n Shotties, I just want the sick outfits

I think they just need to take Freight Yard out back and put it out of everyone's misery.

Rewrite the achievement, if you have to, just be done with it. And, yes, delete the particular pursuits that require it. I'm just tired of "IT'S BACK!" "It's down." "IT'S BACK!" "It's down again..." I see this as a revolving door taking effort that could be better spent fixing something more worthwhile than a PvP map that was garbage from the start. FYI - I haven't even played it yet.

What a joke.

How about random matchmaking creating a game in Freight Yard...can't see any other players...A/B/C locations do nothing...try another random and get dropped right back in. If it's down please make sure it's COMPLETELY down!

All do respect fifty if trion was expecting patience from the players it was a mistake to put this game on consoles being replaced in less than a year. if launch content is removed and comes back for a forth attempt 2 months past launch what does that say about dlc or new content period? trions not making a lot of friends they know it their investors know it and we know it trion is out of time console side

I wish you'd just admit the truth that most people already know. Kevin Murphy has been to an alternate reality where Defiance is real and this multi-platform technology was found in an arkfall. The devs know how to make the game work, they just don't know how it works. That's clearly the only reason that makes sense as to why Freight Yard isn't in and so many other problems persist after months of being looked at.

Just take the Infectors out of PvP altogether. I know myself and much of the community would greatly appreciate this.