lol at these forums!!!

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Originally Posted by Rasczak

For the love of Christ, is basic punctuation not taught in school anymore?

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I think it's an example of what happens when someone focuses on posting to the forums instead of their class (while at school).

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Originally Posted by EdgeTW

I feel like you're basically saying you chose to remain blissfully ignorant about what Defiance was advertised to be like during its development phase, and your ignorance has allowed you to remain happy because everything is a pleasant surprise.

While, at the same time, completely not comprehending why those players who sought out information about the game during its development and bought into the hype are frustrated.

So.. blissfully ignorant and non comprehending about sums it up?

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Some people have to bullspit themselves to get through life because they can't face the reality of what life is. They want to see the world as rainbows and puppy dogs. They figure it's not supposed to be cruel and full of disappointment or the big guy in the clouds wouldn't have made all this for us.

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Originally Posted by GodBunny

so negative... seriously its the same as people that hate life... if you refuse to enjoy anything... then you will not enjoy anyhing... i wish i could help people simply be happy with constructive critism... but oh well... just wanted to speak a little during times i can not play... in class now so wishing i could play lol

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You are not very constructive my friend, you started a thread laughing at everyone on this forum.

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Originally Posted by EdgeTW

I feel like you're basically saying you chose to remain blissfully ignorant about what Defiance was advertised to be like during its development phase, and your ignorance has allowed you to remain happy because everything is a pleasant surprise.

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It sounds more to me like someone that decided to remain skeptical and NOT simply believe all the hype about the game, and instead took it for its own merits, and for what it was, not what it could have or should have been.

Personally, I'm still having a lot of fun with the game, despite all the bugs (which, to be perfectly honest, probably would be more of an issue for me had I actually had any interest in the stuff they are affecting). But I played Alpha and Beta, and assumed that what we would get for Launch -- no more and no less -- would be exactly what we had seen in the last Beta, and sure enough, that's exactly what we got, flaws and all. But I was still having enough fun during that last Betas to warrant me grabbing a pre-release copy of the game a day or three before it launched.

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Originally Posted by GodBunny

I love the fact that 10's of thousands are always online like me playing and loving the hell out of this game... while dozens sit on the forms and ***** and moan instead of simply enjoying it for what there is instead of what there isnt. people need to stop grinding and rushing the game and sit back and just enjoy... took me a month and many nights just to reach 500, and i dont even focus on pursuits or pvp and barely touch coop recently... but i love and enjoy every moment.

why? because i expected less and am happy with everything i see each day and love the open world and lore. plus its always fun to shoot ****. other mmo's felt boring cause you simply watched the same animation over and over... while this game you actually gotta interact and aim and what not...

so while i doubt any of the complainers will do anything but that... i ask that you simply enjoy the game or move on. these forums should be for good info, and not complaints... which a majority seem to be... plus its only a month old. and if that is not a good excuse to you, well it doesnt matter it is still one... so leave and come back in a year or never... up to you...

I for one am glad I do not pay per month... wasted a year paying for WoW, just to sit online for hours talking and making money while feeling completely bored... so bottom line I am happy with this purchase. Thank you Trion! and syfy for great show!:):):)

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So basically what can tell from what you've said here that you're new to the internet and even newer to gaming forums (hell, forums in general) and that because you think it's all peachy everyone else should?

I'll let you in on a little secret, the people that care most about something tend to be the most vocal.

Also this bit annoys me "why? because i expected less", nononono my friend, we expected what was advertised, showcased and promised. Just because you didn't follow the development as the rest of us doesn't mean we had lofty expectations.

We're not about to just bail on a game that we enjoy because it didn't live up to it's own expectations, we're going to stay and be loud, we're going to stay and complain about every little issue we see because we see things the devs don't and through our words and complaints the devs find solutions that we might not have even seen.

That's how game development works and that's how great games are made. WoW wouldn't be what it is today if there wasn't constant feedback.

I know right (OP)

This is my second post i was not gone to even post any more but i had to. I love reading all the post but it is funny people complain and complain and say there are thousands that hate look you will see.
No its the same 50 people and watch this post the same 50 will hate and fast , i see them react in under a 30 seconds and i laugh because they truly have to sit all day on this forum waiting to hate seriously 30 seconds . It is like they work for blizzard or something becuase this has to be there job,why no matter what time of the day and quicker than a hiccup there on .hey good luck with that lmao . Hope you get paid, because I know i would hire you for my company on call 24/7 is not an easy job and you guys are the best of the best

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Originally Posted by The Guy

This is my second post i was not gone to even post any more but i had to. I love reading all the post but it is funny people complain and complain and say there are thousands that hate look you will see.
No its the same 50 people and watch this post the same 50 will hate and fast , i see them react in under a 30 seconds and i laugh because they truly have to sit all day on this forum waiting to hate seriously 30 seconds . It is like they work for blizzard or something becuase this has to be there job,why no matter what time of the day and quicker than a hiccup there on .hey good luck with that lmao . Hope you get paid, because I know i would hire you for my company on call 24/7 is not an easy job and you guys are the best of the best

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Some of us are at work and have this amazing ability to multitask.

For example I'm currently migrating user data from one site to another, going through logs, watching youtube, eating lunch, chatting to my team, sending emails and sitting on 2 game forums.

So yeah Guy, guess you could say I do get paid for this.

I love how TC pulled the "10s of thousands" number out of his ***...

So, the OP made a thread about complaining about complainers and telling them to stop, and all that by insulting and complaining about them, and telling them to not voice their opinions? I smell irony.

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Originally Posted by Sarin

So basically what can tell from what you've said here that you're new to the internet and even newer to gaming forums (hell, forums in general) and that because you think it's all peachy everyone else should?

I'll let you in on a little secret, the people that care most about something tend to be the most vocal.

Also this bit annoys me "why? because i expected less", nononono my friend, we expected what was advertised, showcased and promised. Just because you didn't follow the development as the rest of us doesn't mean we had lofty expectations.

We're not about to just bail on a game that we enjoy because it didn't live up to it's own expectations, we're going to stay and be loud, we're going to stay and complain about every little issue we see because we see things the devs don't and through our words and complaints the devs find solutions that we might not have even seen.

That's how game development works and that's how great games are made. WoW wouldn't be what it is today if there wasn't constant feedback.

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Agreed. My expectations were already tempered after I noticed 3 tiers of purchasable boxes, along with no monthly subscription.

I expected a step down from Rift's support. I did not expect a QAless swandive off of the cliff of quality.

people who moan should not be here they should not play if they complain soooooo much about not wanting to ........-_- cry babies

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Originally Posted by BLITZKRI3G

people who moan should not be here they should not play if they complain soooooo much about not wanting to ........-_- cry babies

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Such an articulate response.

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Originally Posted by GodBunny

I love the fact that 10's of thousands are always online like me playing and loving the hell out of this game... while dozens sit on the forms and ***** and moan instead of simply enjoying it for what there is instead of what there isnt. people need to stop grinding and rushing the game and sit back and just enjoy... took me a month and many nights just to reach 500, and i dont even focus on pursuits or pvp and barely touch coop recently... but i love and enjoy every moment.

why? because i expected less and am happy with everything i see each day and love the open world and lore. plus its always fun to shoot ****. other mmo's felt boring cause you simply watched the same animation over and over... while this game you actually gotta interact and aim and what not...

so while i doubt any of the complainers will do anything but that... i ask that you simply enjoy the game or move on. these forums should be for good info, and not complaints... which a majority seem to be... plus its only a month old. and if that is not a good excuse to you, well it doesnt matter it is still one... so leave and come back in a year or never... up to you...

I for one am glad I do not pay per month... wasted a year paying for WoW, just to sit online for hours talking and making money while feeling completely bored... so bottom line I am happy with this purchase. Thank you Trion! and syfy for great show!:):):)

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Usually consumers satisfied with their purchases don't jump on internet forums to defend them with baseless and exaggerated numbers to defend products.

A quick look at Steam's defiance numbers are utterly pathetic with today's peak nearly being twice as lower than Just Cause 2 which is a 3 year old single player game. I know Steam doesn't reflect all PC players however it is the largest digital distribution service on the PC so it's a glimpse into how few people actually play that game. Maybe consoles have more players. In fact I bet consoles have more players, but I really doubt 10k players are on at any given time per platform.

I'm glad you're excited, but the game isn't doing as well as you're portraying.

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Originally Posted by WhiteCell

Usually consumers satisfied with their purchases don't jump on internet forums to defend them with baseless and exaggerated numbers to defend products.

A quick look at Steam's defiance numbers are utterly pathetic with today's peak nearly being twice as lower than Just Cause 2 which is a 3 year old single player game. I know Steam doesn't reflect all PC players however it is the largest digital distribution service on the PC so it's a glimpse into how few people actually play that game. Maybe consoles have more players. In fact I bet consoles have more players, but I really doubt 10k players are on at any given time per platform.

I'm glad you're excited, but the game isn't doing as well as you're portraying.

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What's Defiance's sales rating right now on Steam? Last I checked it was in a freefall around 40th place.

Almost up there with helicopter crapping hippos :P

I kid, I kid haha.

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Originally Posted by Sarin

Almost up there with helicopter crapping hippos :P

I kid, I kid haha.

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That was awesome. You know it was.

It was the perfect video to convey exactly what I think of Halo mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Schwa

Agreed. My expectations were already tempered after I noticed 3 tiers of purchasable boxes, along with no monthly subscription.

I expected a step down from Rift's support. I did not expect a QAless swandive off of the cliff of quality.

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Swandive!

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Into the mmo of your life!

I love the argument that all the people constantly trash talking the game are doing it because they want the game to succeed. In case your not aware, people who have yet to purchase the game do go onto forums to read what people say, they see all the negative posts (most of which are grossly exaggerated) and then decide to not buy the game. So congratulations on your "good intentions"

From personal experience, one friend removed this game from his wishlist after visiting these forums, another I was able to convince to ignore all this lunacy and so far hes loving the game.

If you are truly just concerned and want the game to succeed then use the in-game comment to voice your concerns.

If your a troll who just likes to start arguments because you have nothing better to do with your time, then please continue posting negative comments here.

Ok im done with my rant, commence with the pointless flaming, perhaps some more personal insults directed my way? I especially like the insults that tell me how much better your real life is than mine.

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Originally Posted by Commander Shepard

I love the argument that all the people constantly trash talking the game are doing it because they want the game to succeed. In case your not aware, people who have yet to purchase the game do go onto forums to read what people say, they see all the negative posts (most of which are grossly exaggerated) and then decide to not buy the game. So congratulations on your "good intentions"

From personal experience, one friend removed this game from his wishlist after visiting these forums, another I was able to convince to ignore all this lunacy and so far hes loving the game.

If you are truly just concerned and want the game to succeed then use the in-game comment to voice your concerns.

If your a troll who just likes to start arguments because you have nothing better to do with your time, then please continue posting negative comments here.

Ok im done with my rant, commence with the pointless flaming, perhaps some more personal insults directed my way? I especially like the insults that tell me how much better your real life is than mine.

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Make sure you let your friends know they can check metacritic for a general critical overview on a game, and user comments on the major blogs are a good indicator too. These forums are relatively tame.

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Originally Posted by Schwa

Make sure you let your friends know they can check metacritic for a general critical overview on a game, and user comments on the major blogs are a good indicator too. These forums are relatively tame.

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Gotta love metacritic. Actually saved me a few bucks at times.

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Make sure you let your friends know they can check metacritic for a general critical overview on a game, and user comments on the major blogs are a good indicator too. These forums are relatively tame.

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The source doesn't really matter, its all just other peoples opinions, I like to form my own opinion, not have someone else tell me what to think. A good example, I love this game,but if I were to base my purchase off these forums or some bogus review then chances are I would not buy it right?

That's the base of the problem, to many people rely on listening to other people instead of trying it themselves. An "official" game reviewer is just as capable of being an idiot as the people on these forums, he just gets paid to do it.

And yes I said idiot, because a lot of the "problems" I see people complaining about, is nothing more than that person not understanding how the game works aka a noob. Like pvp being unbalanced because of cloak/shotty or a lack of progression because your weapons don't increase in damage by 10 million points every 5 levels. I stomp cloak/shotties~infectors on a daily basis and can consistently score 3-4x higher than everyone else on co-ops and arkfalls. People think they understand this game, but they really don't, then they try to chalk up their ignorance as actual fact and say the games broken and other people listen to them.

But w/e, people are not going to change their ignorant ways, whether its basing their decisions off others opinions, or being the next jerk off to post a smart a** remark on this thread. I don't know why I even bother on these forums

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Originally Posted by Commander Shepard

The source doesn't really matter, its all just other peoples opinions, I like to form my own opinion, not have someone else tell me what to think. A good example, I love this game,but if I were to base my purchase off these forums or some bogus review then chances are I would not buy it right?

That's the base of the problem, to many people rely on listening to other people instead of trying it themselves. An "official" game reviewer is just as capable of being an idiot as the people on these forums, he just gets paid to do it.

And yes I said idiot, because a lot of the "problems" I see people complaining about, is nothing more than that person not understanding how the game works aka a noob. Like pvp being unbalanced because of cloak/shotty or a lack of progression because your weapons don't increase in damage by 10 million points every 5 levels. I stomp cloak/shotties~infectors on a daily basis and can consistently score 3-4x higher than everyone else on co-ops and arkfalls. People think they understand this game, but they really don't, then they try to chalk up their ignorance as actual fact and say the games broken and other people listen to them.

But w/e, people are not going to change their ignorant ways, whether its basing their decisions off others opinions, or being the next jerk off to post a smart a** remark on this thread. I don't know why I even bother on these forums

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I absolutely encourage you to enjoy the game and make your own decisions.

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Originally Posted by Commander Shepard

The source doesn't really matter, its all just other peoples opinions, I like to form my own opinion, not have someone else tell me what to think. A good example, I love this game,but if I were to base my purchase off these forums or some bogus review then chances are I would not buy it right?

That's the base of the problem, to many people rely on listening to other people instead of trying it themselves. An "official" game reviewer is just as capable of being an idiot as the people on these forums, he just gets paid to do it.

And yes I said idiot, because a lot of the "problems" I see people complaining about, is nothing more than that person not understanding how the game works aka a noob. Like pvp being unbalanced because of cloak/shotty or a lack of progression because your weapons don't increase in damage by 10 million points every 5 levels. I stomp cloak/shotties~infectors on a daily basis and can consistently score 3-4x higher than everyone else on co-ops and arkfalls. People think they understand this game, but they really don't, then they try to chalk up their ignorance as actual fact and say the games broken and other people listen to them.

But w/e, people are not going to change their ignorant ways, whether its basing their decisions off others opinions, or being the next jerk off to post a smart a** remark on this thread. I don't know why I even bother on these forums

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See you! tata! Hope you enjoy the game!

Also im totally glad you think everyone is ignorant. I wish to hear more of your intellectual greatness later, oh czar of rightness!

But until then..

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Originally Posted by GodBunny

I love the fact that 10's of thousands are always online like me playing and loving the hell out of this game... while dozens sit on the forms and ***** and moan instead of simply enjoying it for what there is instead of what there isnt. people need to stop grinding and rushing the game and sit back and just enjoy... took me a month and many nights just to reach 500, and i dont even focus on pursuits or pvp and barely touch coop recently... but i love and enjoy every moment.

why? because i expected less and am happy with everything i see each day and love the open world and lore. plus its always fun to shoot ****. other mmo's felt boring cause you simply watched the same animation over and over... while this game you actually gotta interact and aim and what not...

so while i doubt any of the complainers will do anything but that... i ask that you simply enjoy the game or move on. these forums should be for good info, and not complaints... which a majority seem to be... plus its only a month old. and if that is not a good excuse to you, well it doesnt matter it is still one... so leave and come back in a year or never... up to you...

I for one am glad I do not pay per month... wasted a year paying for WoW, just to sit online for hours talking and making money while feeling completely bored... so bottom line I am happy with this purchase. Thank you Trion! and syfy for great show!:):):)

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LOL, you say rush through the game like its not hard to do!!!

The game is very shallow and doesn't have much content!

Thats is why people complain on the forums!!!

This is one of the buggiest games to come out in recent memory that I have ever played. Not to mention on PC it has one of the worst interfaces of all time. Those who blindly praise it are either paid to do so, don't play very many games or are the ones who contribute nothing at Arkfalls and Co-Op while just randomly spraying weapons and being generally moronic. Sure you can have some fun but unless you're blind you will encounter a pile of bugs. Hell the lag and phasing issues alone make me rage quit sometimes. While don't there all the time when it happens it is totally game breaking. The worst part is the devs hardly speak out officially about anything and can't seem to fix a damn thing in a timely manner. There is also hardly any content to keep people coming back and practically no end game other than generic grinding.

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Originally Posted by Archeus9

See you! tata! Hope you enjoy the game!

Also im totally glad you think everyone is ignorant. I wish to hear more of your intellectual greatness later, oh czar of rightness!

But until then..

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LOL, have a nice day!!!

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I think some people feel like the game is a bunch of this!

Only Logical Opinion is a negative one.

if you enjoy the game, you must work for Trion. there is no other explanation.

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Originally Posted by JMadFour

Only Logical Opinion is a negative one.

if you enjoy the game, you must work for Trion. there is no other explanation.

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Actually. Ive seen more fact (note: logic) and proof from what you call.. the negative side.. than the positive.

All ive seen is mostly trash talking and name calling from the positive. Sure the negative has done a bit of that too, but not anywhere near as much as the positive.

Kinda interesting if you think on it.

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Originally Posted by Calypso Atlas

I agree.

I don't understand how people can dislike this game but that is my personal opinion, I made a thread stating that I am having fun in this game but at the same time I never put down any one for disliking the game.

This thread just feels like a whole "You are dumb for having an opinion because only mine is right".

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It is satyrical

wow i love this thread you guys are great... i love how everyone seems to read things the wrong way and read things that are not there lol

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Originally Posted by GodBunny

wow i love this thread you guys are great... i love how everyone seems to read things the wrong way and read things that are not there lol

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Maybe you should choose your words more carefully then, just sayin!

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Originally Posted by JMadFour

if you enjoy the game, you must work for Trion. there is no other explanation.

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Dammit, where's my paycheck then? Trion, human resources will be getting a call regarding back pay, I assure you!

Always the same no matter what game I've played...From the early days of lineage 1 to w.o.w to DAOC it truly is the same and I am stilled baffled...If you dislike the game instead of hanging on the forums bashing it (No not saying constructive criticism is bashing) why not move on and find the game that's right for you?

But I guess trolls gotta be trolls.

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Originally Posted by Thaldavies

Always the same no matter what game I've played...From the early days of lineage 1 to w.o.w to DAOC it truly is the same and I am stilled baffled...If you dislike the game instead of hanging on the forums bashing it (No not saying constructive criticism is bashing) why not move on and find the game that's right for you?

But I guess trolls gotta be trolls.

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What a coincidence, we come from the same era-- though I was into muds before that.

I stopped accepting the status quo when Trion showed me they didn't need to lean on it as a crutch.

Where else are people going to go where there opinions will possibly be seen by Trion? Besides without these forums not many people would know what was going on with the game and such.

Just another day in MMORPG genre?