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  • 05-13-2013, 06:35 AM
    Coolrockski
    Do Not Nerf Shotgun/Cloak, Buff other EGO Abilities and Weapons
    PVP. First of all, if you nerf Cloak, everyone will switch to blur and use closeup shotgun attacks in a similar way.

    But my main point is buffing something like overcharged shot will allow people to use something other than cloak/shotgun cloak. Also, buff the AR/LMG/Sniper rifle. The players who actually aim their shot and use some strategy will be rewarded for doing so.

    I play a lot of PVP and use a cloak/AR combo. I tried Overcharge shot, but it does only a little bit of damage extra when using an AR. It really shows when the infectors hit you, can't see what you are shooting, it's a loss almost every time. If I use cloak, I can at least get a few shots off on infectors before they blind me with there infections and bugs. A mor epowerful overcharged shot should kill them after a few shots, especially when I'm shooting blindly and they are bunny hopping.

    I also think kepeing some shotgun/cloaks around will keep the games moving fast. I would not take them out of play, just add other viable builds other than sniping infectors.
  • 05-13-2013, 07:53 AM
    Hiero Glyph
    I hate to break this to you but you can see a Blur player coming without issue. While they move faster you know exactly what to expect, making it balanced. Let everyone switch to a Blur + Shotgun builds, it at least takes more skill to aim than Cloak + Shotgun builds.

    The issue is that Cloak is overpowered in this format due to making the player completely invisible, immediately starting the recharge of their shield, and having very few hard counters. It certainly needs to be adjusted as the other three EGO powers feel balanced.

    On a side note, snipers have limited use due to the draw distance. The current meta-game is all about Shotguns, Infectors, and Detonators. I do agree that skill should be rewarded more, but buffing the EGO powers is not going to accomplish this.
  • 05-13-2013, 07:57 AM
    SYN BLACK XS
    Better yet, get rid of PvP alltogether. Keep Shadow Wars around for clans/guilds/those interested, but get rid of the mess that is PvP. Theyre wasting time/money on something that will never work correctly, unless they went about it in a completely different way.

    Unless Trion changes is so that weapons are redone SOLELY in PvP, it will continue to lose players. Amending weapons for the entire game only pushes people away, rather than fixing the real issue (weapon inbalance).
  • 05-13-2013, 07:59 AM
    DeMoted
    I don't use cloak/shotgun so I don't care what they do with it.
  • 05-13-2013, 08:08 AM
    nosworc
    As someone who doesn't PvP all that often i don't want to see any nerfs coming whatsoever, mainly because it then screws with what i do in PvE. The two game modes should be separate, this always happens in games like this, people whine about PvP not being balanced because of some weapon, perk, etc and then in it turn ruins it for people that just PvE.
    Trion needs to separate the two modes so that weapons act differently in PvP and PvE.
  • 05-13-2013, 08:09 AM
    Cynical Jester
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SYN BLACK XS View Post
    Better yet, get rid of PvP alltogether. Keep Shadow Wars around for clans/guilds/those interested, but get rid of the mess that is PvP. Theyre wasting time/money on something that will never work correctly, unless they went about it in a completely different way.

    Unless Trion changes is so that weapons are redone SOLELY in PvP, it will continue to lose players. Amending weapons for the entire game only pushes people away, rather than fixing the real issue (weapon inbalance).

    I play most games solely for the PvP.. Tons of people PvP.. Just because you don't like it or want it gone doesn't mean everyone else feels the same.

    People need to get off the nerf bat.. I seriously think people have been subliminally brainwashed over the years due to the "Nerf or nothing" commercials...

    I would love to see more Power in the ARs/SMGs/ (and close/mid range scopes)- Better clip for pistols, TONS more damage from a rocket launcher (Due to FoV, my lock on rocket launchers never hit any vehicles passing by.. and if it does hit.. its weak sauce)...

    The infector burst mod is about the only thing that needs a nerf ( I believe that is the one.. ) Shoot you a few times and you blow up.. Pretty OP... Also the main reason I started using cloak... Whole team using burst mod infectors? Yeap.. GG..

    To people that say infector needles do not home.. they do... You just have to be 'somewhat' targeting at them and in range.. closer you are more effective it is for the 'homing'... Some needles can/will still miss if your far away / they are running around..

    Sniper rifles need all sorts of love.. etc..

    Main reason I picked up the game was for the PvP... Typically I don't like PvE stuff in MMOs'.. I actually enjoy it in Defiance so it is a happy welcome.. Still PvP is my main thing.. Hence why I'm still using a white VOT Fragger.. and doing quite well with it...
  • 05-13-2013, 08:14 AM
    DeMoted
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    Originally Posted by SYN BLACK XS View Post
    Better yet, get rid of PvP alltogether. Keep Shadow Wars around for clans/guilds/those interested, but get rid of the mess that is PvP. Theyre wasting time/money on something that will never work correctly, unless they went about it in a completely different way.

    Unless Trion changes is so that weapons are redone SOLELY in PvP, it will continue to lose players. Amending weapons for the entire game only pushes people away, rather than fixing the real issue (weapon inbalance).

    They get rid of PvP and this game is dead. Right now their is nothing to do other then kill a crystal or kill some bugs. (Ohh they put new mobs in) No they didn't they just pulled a Grandmas Boy on you and changed the color of the mobs.
  • 05-13-2013, 08:22 AM
    Schwa
    Shotgun's gonna get nerfed. Sledge flat out said it during the Defiance Central podcast.

    Gonna happen.
  • 05-13-2013, 08:23 AM
    Schwa
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SYN BLACK XS View Post
    Better yet, get rid of PvP alltogether. Keep Shadow Wars around for clans/guilds/those interested, but get rid of the mess that is PvP. Theyre wasting time/money on something that will never work correctly, unless they went about it in a completely different way.

    Unless Trion changes is so that weapons are redone SOLELY in PvP, it will continue to lose players. Amending weapons for the entire game only pushes people away, rather than fixing the real issue (weapon inbalance).

    They're hiring another designer just for competitive multiplayer. Expect this to be expanded, not shuttered.
  • 05-13-2013, 08:25 AM
    Cynical Jester
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Schwa View Post
    They're hiring another designer just for competitive multiplayer. Expect this to be expanded, not shuttered.

    Well, I hope they do something to the modded infectors or I guess it's time for me to go hunt down that mod and join the masses.

    Edit: I guess I could potentially fall in love with the charge blade...
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