In-game auction house/market and mail system?

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Originally Posted by ironhands

... and when was the last time you played Tabula Rasa? Ohh....

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Tabula Rasa's downfall wasn't an AH you ***********.

Quit being purposely obtuse. Just because YOU don't like the idea doesn't mean that its not a good addition, as per most the community requesting it.


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Apparently even tame schoolground insults are censored.

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Originally Posted by ironhands

There is the answer to the most important question. You just want to sell your items for more than what the vendors give you. So, have the vendors give you more $ and you'd be just as happy, right? But what's the end-game, now that you've got the scrip, what do you plan to do with it?

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Well hopefully they add more things to spend scrip on eventually. MMO's tend to evolve, no?

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Originally Posted by Ctrain

Planetside doesn't have an ah cause it doesn't have any gear so an ah is kinda pointless. You buy all your "gear" for real money from the store unless your dumb enough to spend 1k certs on a new gun when you could have bought it for like $5 instead and dumped thoose certs into your skills but I digress.

The gear in Defiance may not be vastly different right now but mark my words it WILL be in due time. If they seriously try to run this with no gear progression then once somebody hits max ego or even like 2500 they will be quitting. I've been shopping vendors for along time and while I have yet to get a decent epic saw or groundpounder I know my odds are ALOT better then wasting time opening boxes. I can even pick up blue mods while I am at it.

Currently this game allready has an "ah" anyway called the trade forums. Its just 10x harder then it needs to be to get anything done and we're asking for a quality of life improvement. That said there's only 2 gun slots a shield and a nade so if it comes to it I will work the trade forum. But a bank though is much needed so I can store my 8+ blue mods I collected without having to sort them everytime I run salvage. Its really annoying.



Firstly Nobody has ever in the history of MMO gaming to my knowledge had a gun put to there head and been forced to use an ah. This game offers plenty of scrip without an ah allready and the problem is actually TOO MUCH scrip and nothing to spend it on.

You seem to imply Trion would raise the vendor prices to account for inflation based on an ah. An ah does not cause inflation. In fact it dos the exact opposite because it allways has a tax on it that pulls scrip out of the economy. You seem to think an ah somehow generates wealth. This is not the case at all as it simply moves it around more efficiently.

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Inflation would be due to the same thing that happens in MMOs. Someone will corner the market and decide what price they would sell all those guns at. Only way to combat this is one gun limit per account. This would combat the scrip farmers that would come into the game.

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Originally Posted by Jandipoo

Tabula Rasa's downfall wasn't an AH you ***********.

Quit being purposely obtuse. Just because YOU don't like the idea doesn't mean that its not a good addition, as per most the community requesting it.


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Apparently even tame schoolground insults are censored.

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Did I say it was? Care to point out where I did? Point is, it didn't help. People seem to be under the impression that an AH will help the current issues, can anyone demonstrate how?

Where do you see MOST of the community? I see just as many who don't want one. It has nothing to do with whether or not I want one; adding one is pointless, and would do more harm than good.

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Originally Posted by Merrin Nightbringer

I would absolutely agree with this. The forum IS the Defiance community, at least until we get some chat system upgrades...

An Auction House would be detrimental to bit sales- yes there are still outfits, vehicles, and inventory... but those are static: you buy them once, and then you have it. Not so with lockboxes. They are more like a lottery ticket.

You can see several threads of people, saying how they bought lockboxes with bits. This is clearly working for Trion. By adding an Auction House, they lose that income, because at that point, NO ONE needs lockboxes; you just go to the AH and get what you want. This makes Scrip extremely important, and minimizes Keycodes.

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No, at this time Lock boxes arent so important. Also orange items are not so much better than blue which are more popular.

Auction House would boost Trion income. Why? Because when you can sell items from Lock Boxes and buy another that makes more sense to get them. Get bits for outfits or even buy and sell lock boxes. Trade always help to get proper income.

And its quite simple that If orange are not so popular from Lock Boxes you must buy a lot of them to sell one orange item :) Lot of lock boxes, lots of bits for Trion because many people likes shortcut (not to farm keycodes).

Also Auction House Area is a place when you can very easy interact, its also common fact.

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Originally Posted by Jandipoo

Well hopefully they add more things to spend scrip on eventually. MMO's tend to evolve, no?

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Yes, BUT, what you'd end up with is a large gap between the people who sell via the AH, and those that don't. If the next expansion prices based on what those people have, the ones who don't use it won't be able to buy them, if they scale it based on the people who don't use it, the ones with all the scrip will still have more than they know what to do with.

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Originally Posted by Grant

No, at this time Lock boxes arent so important. Also orange items are not so much better than blue which are more popular.

Auction House would boost Trion income. Why? Because when you can sell items from Lock Boxes and buy another that makes more sense to get them. Get bits for outfits or even buy and sell lock boxes. Trade always help to get proper income.

And its quite simple that If orange are not so popular from Lock Boxes you must buy a lot of them to sell one orange item :) Lot of lock boxes, lots of bits for Trion because many people likes shortcut (not to farm keycodes).

Also Auction House Area is a place when you can very easy interact, its also common fact.

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What planet are you on? Lockboxes are really the only way to get the rarest items right now, so they are pretty important, compared to farming arkfalls for actual items. You are correct that an orange isn't so much better, but that just drives homes the "why even bother?" question.

Are you suggesting that people will use bits to buy lockboxes to sell for scrip? Nobody would do that. Anyone who is selling in the AH does so because they like to make money, and they're certainly not going to spend real money to earn fake money. If anything, people would be more inclined to buy scrip from farmers for real $ instead of taking the chance of real money for a lockbox with nothing to sell.

Nobody interacts at an auction house, they walk up to the automated vendor, buy or sell, and walk away.

This is a nice idea but it wouldn't really work with defiance. Plus as previously states it does undermine their business model.

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Originally Posted by ironhands

Yes, BUT, what you'd end up with is a large gap between the people who sell via the AH, and those that don't. If the next expansion prices based on what those people have, the ones who don't use it won't be able to buy them, if they scale it based on the people who don't use it, the ones with all the scrip will still have more than they know what to do with.

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Then maybe those people who dont sell on the AH should?

I really don't understand your argument.

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Originally Posted by Jandipoo

Then maybe those people who dont sell on the AH should?

I really don't understand your argument.

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You advocating forcing people to participate in the economy, in order to enjoy a game that is shooter/skill based. If people wanted to focus on a gaming economy, they can play EVE.