The live tv they kept chatting on about is US only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmec
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The live tv they kept chatting on about is US only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmec
I'm getting an xbox first... Then I'll get a playstation.. I've always liked xbox live...
From reddit:
Microsoft corporate vice president Phil Harrison has suggested that customers who activate a pre-owned retail disc for the Xbox One will need to pay the same price as the original buyer to access the content.
When asked by Kotaku whether the secondhand owner will be "paying the same price we [the original buyer] paid, or less" Harrison responded "let's assume it's a new game, so the answer is yes, it will be the same price."
Harrison also said that owners can trade their secondhand games online, however the company is "not talking about it today".
http://www.computerandvideogames.com...-for-xbox-one/
Have a PS3 and an Xbox 360 in each of my rooms right now. I'll have at least 2 PS4s and 2 Xbox Ones from launch, in my living room and in my bonus room. I still wish the PS4 controller would had some real triggers this time but oh well. Sony better bring back Socom too!
I'm really digging the whole Skype sh*t on the TV for the Xbox One. I'll be able to see and talk with my folks or my friends, seamlessly. It's going to be huge. Also, the Xbox One will launch with 15 new exclusive games. For me, that means we'll be seeing some cool sh*t.
I'm a gamer so I don't limit my gaming experience by staying with just one console only. If a game is a known masterpiece, then I'm there, and I won't be the one missing out on all the good action. I know that both of the companies are about to step up the competition to a whole new level. I can't wait.
Wait wait wait.. so you can play used games, if you pay full price for it? I give up.. F*ck microsoft. How f*ckin' stupid are they going to get!? Seriously!? They pretty much just said "Yea you can play used games if you buy it new.." The f*ck!? And what is with this trading it online? Same bs? Pay full price for used games. Does Micro$oft not understand why people buy USED games to begin with? I was interested in it before they showed it off and announced crap like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmec
PS4. From what I've seen of the Xbox Uno, it shouldn't even been considered a gaming console anymore; Now it's just a Media PC. Plus, Microsoft confirmed you can't play used games on it. So, yeah, PS4 for me.
You CAN play used games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Umbra Warrior
Yep, if you pay full price. They are killin' used game sales.. Greedy f*cks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate Murder
Yes for a fee(=new game price).Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate Murder
Microsoft's greed is finally beginning to be to much for me.
First the Xbox live fee, than the $10 gamertag change fee, now the full price used game fee, and now you will also need an online connection to start your game....
along with all this, their focus is moving away from gaming, which is what made their console's so successful.
Greed... Sure. I'm certain Playstation wants to just give games away.... Game CREATORS hate the used market. They have for a long time. Microsoft doesn't give a damned one way or the other.. There's a reason that they suddenly might... Follow the clues.
That's great and all but I don't see Sony's fee for using their online service, or their gamertag change fee, or their used games fee, their have been no rumors of them being always online. You see where i'm going with this? Microsoft's greed is self evident.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agamemnon Von Doom
Sure i understand that, hell its good buisness. But you combine that with all the iffy choices the new xbox is making and it just feels like a complete fail to me, and it will still sell well! its like a CoD game honestly. Im not trying to be a PS fanboy, of which i am, i try to keep an open mind. Mincrosoft is just messing up though. They are trying way to hard to force things their way, which it is their console they can do it how they want. But there are alot of instances, where i would by a used game, only if its used, i would not pay full price for a game if its underpar. If not used, i wont buy it. If i made games i would rather get a little money compared to no money at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agamemnon Von Doom
I don't think you're a fanboy at all.. I understand concerns people have...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack The Bear
Don't be surprised if a fee is the game creators choice..an option Microsoft is giving them to keep them happy.
EA is getting rid of online passes... So we'll see if others have no interest in stopping used sales as well. (it didn't make them more money.. So they gave up)
See that would be better, it would really set the good companies apart from the more greedy ones. I know it is a buisness, but for example Bethesda really screwed us PS3 owners over. And i love Skyrim and Beth, i'll always support them, but they could have handled that better. It will be interesting to see what companies decided to take that route. Not to be negative to much i actually liked the 360 interface and the way the online felt, it felt really streamlined and.. pretty? Not sure the word i need. But i did like it, if the console actually lasted longer then a few months for me. I just had bad experiences with it and crawled back to my first love.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agamemnon Von Doom
Skyrim was affected by playstation's odd architecture... There's a reason that they are leaving behind all that Cell nonsense that Sony fans wanted to hype so much...without understanding it..
True but the ram issue was what i heard as the main issue for skyrim's constant lagging. But it takes them a year to mostly fix it and get DLC out? Pretty big ball drop to. Thats what they get for porting the game from 360 to PS3.
Publicly traded companies are bound by law to make the investors money... Sony couldn't get away with what Microsoft did.. Because PSN was inferior. Sony did what they had to and said "free".Quote:
Originally Posted by StickyChief
If you think they don't want the cash Microsoft is making from subscription payments.. I can't see how you are thinking about the situation honestly.
I love games.. Regardless of who is making them.. I don't delude myself into thinking these corps care about my well being.. beyond my glee at burning my paycheck for them.. ;)
I'll agree, at first PSN was kind of a very.. bland expierence. I believe PSPlus solves that though. PS Plus is a far better subscription program than microsoft's. If microsoft were to use that program, they would be doing an excellent thing for service and buisness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agamemnon Von Doom
It's all personal taste... I don't care much about plus since I see it as stuff I've already played.. Or care nothing about.
Microsoft has given away xbla games.. No one made a big deal about it really. I'm waiting to see playstation's online strategy for their next system.
Oh yea, agree on that. I want to know what Playstation's going to do. I do agree it is all about personal taste really. I'd prefer to own one of all systems if money would allow it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agamemnon Von Doom
Are you guys serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmec
What kind of sense does that even make?
Microsofts not going to do that... nobody would do that because its stupid.
Guy in shopping in gamestop " lets see... hmmm... I wanna buy Assassins Creed4, should I buy it new or used... der, uhhh I dont know SINCE THEYRE BOTH THE SAME PRICE "
People will believe anything on the internet if its what they want to believe.
It has been confirmed actually, its all over the web. Sure not everything is true, but it sounds like a microsoft move. You have to pay to have the game activated on your account. So the fee of used, plus an extra fee to activate it, would end up being the same as a new game.Quote:
Originally Posted by MAXsandwich
Well after hearing and reading about the Xbox One, I think I will just get a PS4 and then be done. Already have a WiiU and will probably use that on and off a bit. Not really digging what I saw and read about X:O :/
if you want an honest answer hear it is I will probably get them both (starting with the xbox) just depends on specs, games and prices
il do some reading tomorrow at the computer shop
Go read this link.Quote:
Originally Posted by MAXsandwich
http://www.computerandvideogames.com...-for-xbox-one/
As a PC gamer I see no problem with this at all. This has been on the PC for at least a decade now. Games being a one use license thing was obviously coming to console it was just of a matter of when. It was done on the PC to prevent piracy, something in which this current generation of consoles has significant issues with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmec
I haven't heard or seen much in the way of pirated console games, i always hear about pirated PC games. Got a link or something for me to check that out?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteCell
There are a lot of pirated console games out there. It isn't actually hard to do from what I have heard. But I know it isn't unusual for people to use pirated copies of games on the consoles however sony and microsoft have been getting good at catching the people out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack The Bear
yeah i remember reading something a while back about how some guy was able to make a modded usb that could copy games so that he could play them on the ps3...he would take a game disk, run it then use his modded usb copy the game to it, then remove the disk and just load the game from the usb...he was able to do it ps2 game disks as well, he showed a vid of him doing it...dont know if the vid is still up or not but i would hate to be him if he got caught seeing as how serious sony takes hacking and system modding todayQuote:
Originally Posted by ShiMoShinkenFry
thats was the main reason i didnt get an xbox 360 cuz i was constantly hearing about people hacking accts on that system, then i read something on kotaku about " confessions of a 15 yr old xbox hacker ", this kid went on to tell how he was able to hack xbl accts and sell them on this 1 particular site, he stated he was able to sell some accts as high as $200, since then i will not buy an xbox, i know sony had the hacking 2 yrs ago, but since then sony has been taking huge security measures to prevent it from happening, which why theres always constant system updates and all :cool:
On PC you have lot of options to get your games on discount/sales (like steam). On consoles you don't have this option. Your only option to get a game cheaper, is to buy a used copy. If from now on, you can only get games on consoles for fullprice, that gonna kill of consoles. There is a reason there is a huge used marked. Lets face it most people cant afford to pay 60 bucks everytime they want a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteCell
price and forza will way in heavily on my decision.
It depends on which one gets better games. I own consoles for gaming reasons. Not for TV or social media bs. I won't make a decision until E3 but as it stands now I'll just be stick with my 360
the new system designs look like garbage come on really take a look at all there concepts then ask your selfs why the hell did they choose such crappy designs out of all of them iam really not happy with the finished products
The question is will you xbox folks need to buy a seperate drive
Myself i am actually pumped for the PS4, the new controller looks great
And the whole premise of start to play a game as soon as you start to download is interesting
more so also the integration with the Vita which lets face it needs some love.
Based from what i have heard Sony will again have the more powerful system spec wise
Mind you i also prefer MAC over PC so that may influence me as well do avoid Micro$oft, lol
I will stick with my PC or buy PS4. I EU gamer and most of the crapp that new Xbox apps will have will work in US only at start + I don't need multimedia center but GAME console.
+ Constant online requirement + Pay to play used games....Nope.avi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ekOtn7L1N0
PC here... And still PC for the next 10 years, since PS4 and XB1 are already outdated.
Don't forget the age old tradition of borrowing friends games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmec
Seriously, Microsoft shot themselves in the foot. They all but said "Hey core gamers, there's the door. Stay at home moms and NFL fans, welcome to our gam-pffft-gami-pfffttt Ha Ha Ha! I'm sorry, okay, our 'gaming console'."
My PC is outdated the second it leaves the store (or my workbench depending on if I built that version) and after 2 years playing something as simple as LOTRO is now a problem with all the tweaks and adds and graphical issues they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dracian
I can still play anything new on my PS3 without buying upgrades. I will votes PS3 over PC anyday.
What will affect my decision? Let's see...
Pricing
Healthy lineup of games
Options
I'm open to buying either console (or even both), but I won't make the same mistake of being an early console adopter.