i play it on console even though i could play it on my pc.... but you know a actual working controller setup with no need for a keyboard is nice sometimes
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i play it on console even though i could play it on my pc.... but you know a actual working controller setup with no need for a keyboard is nice sometimes
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I have a very high spec PC and sure the graphics would blow the 360 out of the water. I had reservations about buying it on this platform but I bought the 360 version so I could play with one of my Xbox mates. To be honest I think the developers have done a good job implementing a MMOG on the 360. Defiance does not bring anything new to gaming and the content from the T.V show is loosely integrated but most important thing of all about Defiance is I'm finding it fun to play as a game and its not to bad on the Xbox platform.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4ndreas
I just hope the developers will be able to do something of patch or a 'subbed' Xbox One version for 360 owners and character transfer if it's true that 360 games will not work on the One.
I know one thing. The press conference ensured that I'm sticking with my 360 for as long as possible, then a jump to the PS4 ship. Unless MS brings its A game at E3 (and lets be honest, it never does) I won't be purchasing an Xbox One any time soon. I don't watch TV, don't have cable, hell I don't even get the free local channels. I have no use for a $500 dollar hands free TV remote.
I was at GameStop at work reading the live blog and the OP is completlely making his own assumptions. They didn't state anything in 100%! All they did was show the system and say this is what were gonna but into it with big shiny words. The bottom line is money, and as i still sell PS2, PSP, and DS games i realize that their not gonna do it.
Also the PS3 guy was there and basically these companies give their console 10 years of support, well at least Sony does so the game will continue to get support and i wouldnt be suprised if the game comes out again for next gen consoles at a reduced price for an upgrade if you have already purchased it.
This is what Nintendo is doing, and basically what Microsoft is biting.
I'm not an Xbox gamer, but I'd say do NOT buy any new system whether Xbox One or PS4 until a couple months after in case there are release issues. And look, those consoles aren't coming out until the end of the year and still the 360/Ps3 will be supported well into this time next year to play Defiance on. At the very least the season 2 crossover content will be available on 360/PS3.
Also, it's conceivable Defiance could get up to 5+ seasons depending how popular the show gets and how long they've planned the story for(some shows end on their own terms obviously). I'm sure they have Next-Gen ideas on how to continue the story and game experience.
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Originally Posted by Killersnake
I wasn't afraid of it not being backwards compatible. I was afraid they wouldn't focus on gaming. There would be too much focus on Kinect, TV, and exclusive TV deals no gamer cares about. That they would find a way to prevent used sells or some how punish people for it. Exactly what happened too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anderson
There will be about a 6 month window from XB1's launch date until the 360's servers are shut down. Think back to when the XBOX 360 came out. It was about 3 months then before the XBOX servers where cut off and you had to play either LAN or switch to the 360. Same here just a few months more.
Also, very soon, the 360 will launch a pseudo XB1 dashboard. This is to prepare you for the transition to the XB1. It won't have all the functionality of course, but will look much like and in some cases behave like the XB1 dashboard.
So prepare yourselves folks, roughly 11 months from now all 360 games will only be LAN if you want to game with others (beyond multiple people on one console).
Still PLENTY of time though to have fun in Defiance.
-SR
The xbox servers weren't shut down until like April 2010Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnyn Ravar
All this hate for the X1 because they didn't show off many games when E3 is a few weeks away. Impatience seems to be a virtue on these forums.
I loved the X1's unique selling points. Guess what though guys, BOTH consoles will play games! You heard it here first! They were showing off their unique selling points that differentiates them from one another. PS4's sharing/online stuff and X1's entertainment and kinect features.
I believe they are still focusing heavily on the gaming aspect, but with these other things getting a more detailed focus it creates a wider consumer base since people can simply have an xbox for their entertainment in their homes instead of a cable box, stereo, and any other device hat can now be ran by one system. Wouldn't be surprised if sony goes the same way, but I doubt that the gaming will be any better that xbox one.Quote:
Originally Posted by MstrJedi_Kyle
I'll wait and see what's revealed at this year's E3 before I go shoveling dirt on the graves of any console (or game, for that matter).
But Xbox One is a doorstop because it requires you to log into the internet once every 24 hours or your locked out of even your single player games. So regardless I won't be getting one. The economy is too wacky right now. if anyone loses their job or what not they can't even play the system and games they bought? Screw Microsoft.
On that note? The game will likely be 'upgraded' if it becomes successful enough to the next gen console. All the doom sayers can whine but the recent new patch coming out tomorrow is saying Trion is trying hard as hell to fix this game and I think there is two very specific reasons for that.
1. Sci Fi does have an investment in the game also due to a lot of us watch the show B ECAUSE of the game. Who knows how many of us will remain if the game goes poof!
2. I think the reason Rift is going to FTP is BECAUSE of Defiance. Defiance sells suck but lo and behold all these people buying so much stuff from our store it could seem ratio wise it is making TONS more money then Rift!
THAT is why I think all the firing occurred. THAT is why all these patches are hitting us now and seem to NOT be nothing but broken messes of code.
Odd as it sounds we might actually be a success despite Trion's lack of a successful launch.
You will be out of luck. Upon the release day of xbox One, your 360 will cease to operate. Seriously, game devs were still making PS2 games well into the life of the PS3 and devs will have to catch up and learn about the new consoles. Amazon had a listing for the PS4 and for PS4 games-with pre-release listings. The games will be $99.99. So, I won't be an early adopter of either console. It's one thing to be a beta tester of all released games, but I won't be a beta tester for a new console with new games that cost that much just to start. Makes me wonder what DLC will cost-probably $25 to start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemikz
I am going for Sony only because they don't require me to be online once every 24 hours or my machine becomes a door stop. The economy is too despondent to think none of us would have to very least tighten our belts from time to time if not outright be laid off from a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by mbergeron
Today's market anything is possible sadly.
"You will be out of luck. Upon the release day of xbox One, your 360 will cease to operate." sadly that is not true and I have no idea why a ps fanboi is spreading such. it will eventually not when One is out. Microsoft already spoke of that also.
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Originally Posted by o ASYLUM o
LOL have to agree with you.
After watching the reveal yesterday I am intrigued by the Xbox One. One of the main things is the instant on and switching between apps (assuming SSD is used). Being able to watch my tv through it is also cool, and use my tablet in conjunction. Overall much improved specs. The graphics..wow. I will likely buy one, and keep my 360 around. That's the nice thing about being an older person who can afford to buy stuff. I don't need to convince my parents... :)
Why people are bothered about having to log into the internet once every 24 hours on the X1 puzzles me to no end...
I've constantly been logged into xbox live on my xbox360 for what... Five years now. What's once every 24 hours?
As for keeping the old console around once I get a next-gen, I don't have the luxury of that. My girlfriend has already claimed my 360 the moment I showed an interest in the PS4/X1... :'(
Where did you read that? I have read nothing saying you have to log in. The only thing that will always be on is the kinect sensor because it waits until a specific command is given. If the xbox is always connected to something it is probably because it can also be a cable box.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elric1
I had not seen this. This is ridiculous. Electronic Arts has been trying to implement something like this and in fact at one point people playing Mass Effect 3 when EA had server problems could not play their DLC because the game kept trying to verify the DLC with the server. If I don't want to be online, or if I can't be online (what about if I have modem trouble and just want to play the game offline), I should not be forced to follow such a crappy policy. Especially not since MS has had some notable server problems-one just recently that made people very angry. In retrospect, I think some of the angry comments about it were related to the idea of the Xbox One being constantly connected to the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elric1
Exactly the same thing I always think to myself when this is discussed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemikz
You can already do that on a 360. Get the SmartGlass app. Now granted, I don't think there is necessarily a lot of support for it this gen. I wouldn't know though since I don't own a tablet :(Quote:
Originally Posted by LtRobbiesan
If the servers go down or if your internet connection has problems (and recently MS's servers did go down for more than a day and connection problems do happen) then your single player games cannot be played.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemikz
Lol when I turn the xbox on I don't turn the router on too. It's always on.. People really are stupid and this really shows with the statement of being turned off of the xbox because of the online check.. Seriously...
Not necessarily, they have said that you can play single player games and movies without an internet connection. The only thing that people are getting upset with is the fact that they may have to log in once everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indra Echo
Unfortunately it's not just on these forums. Shareholders are disappointed in the unveiling as well, Microsoft experience about an 11% drop in stocks, and Sony's went up around 9%Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemikz
Unless their E3 show is spectacular, I can see Xbox One being the PS3 of the next Gen consoles.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/...net-connectionQuote:
Originally Posted by mbergeron
This article does indicate there is some dispute about the claim, but read one of the comments below. It seems that some games will need constant access to the cloud because some sort of content will always be cloud-side, even for single player games. The statement the commenter makes is this:
"There was an intervew on KFAN last night with editors of Game Informer and a long time MS employee. He said that MS is dodging the question, but that the issue is cloud services. Some games will be using cloud to do real-time processing in games, even single player games. IE: maybe the game will have the water effects or AI processed by the cloud so the system hardware can focus on gfx. This decision will ultimately be up to the developers. XBO will be able to play games offline, but the devs will also need to pruposely avoid using cloud services for their games to placate a small market of non-internet having customers."
Then surely all they'd have to do is allow users to carry on playing if they have issues at their end. I'm 10000% sure they won't lock you out of your £400 console because their servers dc. Also, if you watched the press release, they did say they had over 300,000 servers now. It's unlikely all of them will go down. Once every 24 hours too.. That's a slim chance of you not being to grab a proper sign in before they go off, if they actually did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indra Echo
All in all I think it's a silly gripe to have. One of the worst infact. There's much more worrying things about the X1, like how they haven't released anything regarding their GPU or the used game fee's.
First off, doesnt apply to a mmo, Im sure contracts are set for such an occasion, secondly... the new xbox is utter crud.. id stick with the 360 if I were you man... less you want to remain online 24/7 paying not just your internet company but xbox to remain there so you can play any of your games...Not to mention they dont recognize used games either... all new and thats it. Ya sounds like a huge legal scam to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killersnake
The term "backwards compatible" is potentially a bit misleading. What is means, is that you cannot play a current Xbox 360 game in the new Xbox. This doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't compatible at the hardware level. The architecture likely extremely different for the current version, and it may be relatively easy to port from one to the other. The lack of "backwards compatibility" may also only be coded into the firmware to detect older software and say "nope, not playing it".Quote:
Originally Posted by Killersnake
It wouldn't make sense for them to completely re-structure the mid to high-level code, as current development studios shouldn't have to start from scratch and re-learn the new development architecture, but rather, simply learn the changes, and adapt current code to fit the new model.
Certainly, the low-level code is different, but depending on the engine being used, and the complexity of the code, it may be as simple as just including the new/updated dependencies upon compilation, or, if the compatibility does actually exist, simply changing the copyright protection method and/or file that says "hey i'm a 360 game" to the newer method could also work.
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Originally Posted by mbergeron
Not so, apparently this will be up to devs in part, as to whether they make use of the cloud for some of the ingame processes. And EA for one is a company that likely would make use of that type of feature since they already did try this or have it happen inadvertantly for Mass Effect 3, and they tried in the past to make it necessary for other games, but then rescinded the feature. And IIRC something similar happened with Diablo 3. Devs like the idea of forcing people to consistently prove they have a legitimate copy of the game and one that is not borrowed, hence the online code many games are now requiring-even some devs (EA) are requiring players use that code just to play the single player game if they ever want to access content they can purchase (DLC, skins, weapons). If the feature is made possible, there are devs that will use it and then hide behind the notion that it is MS's policy or some other false reason.
That was one random comment not made in the actual article. The article has several people stating that it will not require an always connected internet to experience the system. Now if you can find the interview that the person posted about in the comments and make sure that it wasn't taken out of some area where other information would support or go against what was said by the comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indra Echo
Most people like my self don't have or want a PC with the spec to play this game, that's why we have Xbox/ps3Quote:
Originally Posted by 4ndreas
The Defiance Dev Team is a joke, come on they couldn't even get a map they created to work, and already stated they are pushing back DLCQuote:
Originally Posted by Night Hawke
this game was dead the moment it was announced the only thing it was suppose to do was give Gamers something else to do during the summer. Think about it all of the Good Games have either never mentioned a release date or push the date back toward holiday season. Its because they aren't idiots they new Next gen was coming and want to be able to utilize the new hardware to create a better game
The only reason defiance got so many sales was because there wasn't anything else. Glad to hear a lot of the Defiance team got fired, about time people making sh$T games get held accountable
Do you have any idea how many servers MS has in place with the 360 and it went down recently. And as I said, EA did nothing when their servers went down and players could not play their purchased DLC (and for some it was the game itself) for Mass Effect 3. EA remained silent about the whole thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemikz
It is not a silly gripe but it is something to watch and make sure does not happen. MS has a history of attempting to do certain things that people really don't want them to do. Sometimes they wait until things calm down and then they grandfather them in. Much of this has happened in the application software (MSOffice for one)-a number of years ago people complained when MS announced Office would become a year to year licensed product, so they dropped the idea. Well, the new version is a licensed product that you have to re-up the license for or it will stop working.
Look at the events that have taken place over this issue. MS announced that the xbox one was going to have an always on live connection. People reacted-this was part of what people got angry over when the servers had problems recently. They have since started to re-frame the whole idea of always on and now say it's not always on. Well, where in the world do you think that idea of always on live connection came from? It's what they want the thing to be eventually. So, for now it's phrased as a once a day online connection check that you think doesn't even mean that.
For the record, I recently had a modem problem. Since my modem is something provided by my internet provider, I had to wait for a new one. Now, I can entertain myself with other stuff, but the idea that I might not be able to play a single player game just because I can't access the internet as required does make me not so interested in the xbox one. And I don't trust that this won't be changed into a requirement of the always on system. That's how MS and some devs work. And the idea of always on is also likely a way for MS to earn money-advertising. If they make it completely optional that likely will impact pay for ads. Just take a look at the Home screen of the 360 as compared to the PS3-it's already all about the ads.
I can't prove it of course but I live in Minneapolis, mn. and I heard the KFAN (twin cities radio station) interview last night and heard exactly that. So it was stated, but can't prove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mbergeron
Proof! its common sense the amount on content in this so called mmo "defiance" is like a sheet of paper compared to a library in other PC mmo's. They limited the game on the PC so that it matched the xbox. Just think there is no professions, there is basic skills that looked like they were made for 4 year olds, majority of quest are turning off/on generators, The driving is like Mario Cart on N64, There is only a few weapons in the games they just give you the same effect but with didn't name, character customization is a complete Joke (example: Google APB:reloaded its a 3rd person shooter MMO for the PC it has one of the greatest character customization every made and that is free to play and has tons and tons of more content), and this is a big one there is no End Game content. You can defend this game all you want, still doesn't change how bad it is, just inquiry why they fired over half of the Defiance Team in the last couple of weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by zzzkinzzz
the PC Requirements for this game is pretty low compared to other current games so it not really that. But to get the most out of the game, then the PC is the better choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by zzzkinzzz
I hope Trion has a plan on future developments of Defiance on next gen. console, but the layoffs really don't show much hope for that.
The Xbox one reveal was nothing more than Microsoft showing the system, its specs, and its features. it can play games (i hope) but can also do so much more (Cable Box). I like the features, but what is the price for it all? I know both systems are not backwards compatible and are trying to eliminate used games by requiring installs. But really, E3 will tell us more about each system than yesterday's shtako and the PlayStation event ever will.
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Originally Posted by Actright
So are you also pulling for people to be fired at Treyarch for making a bull crap game that sold millions of copies-in a franchise that should be able to avoid the same mistakes they continually make? Defiance is a different type of game that naturally was going to have problems when it went live, but BO2 should never have had the problems it had, some of the same problems that have existed since the first console CoD came out and more.
No, a lot of devs are not waiting for the new consoles to come out in order to make games for them. Activision always releases CoD games at just about the exact time for every release. Any dev that is waiting for the new consoles is an idiot because while there may be some decent sales, there's no guarantee and they know that a large portion of players will still be playing on the current gen consoles for some time to come. Also, new consoles are always in short supply when first released so banking on any one game selling as well for a newly released console as for a current gen one is fiscally irresponsible. What a lot of devs may well do is release a version for the current consoles, see what happens with the new consoles as they are learning to program for them and begin developing the same or new titles for the new consoles.
What often happens is that new franchise games are part of a new console's release.
List those good games you are talking about. I want some of your prophetic vision because no one has any idea if a game is good until it's released and played. Very few franchise games have been all that good recently and every single game I have played in the last few years has had its share of problems that are very similar to the issues Defiance has had, some worse.
Those good games you may be referring to are also by devs who should stop making crap games and who really should be held accountable because they keep making the same crap with the same problems over and over and over again.
By contrast, Trion has made what, Rift and Defiance. Rift on the PC which has gotten some acclaim and Defiance, a type of game not done before for consoles. So, of course they are constantly making "sh$T games". Do you even have a positive thought or constructive one anywhere within you? It's pretty sick to ever be happy when people lose their jobs (outside of them actually hurting people).
This is me giving you a hug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemikz
/hug
Hahaha, I will have to agree with this. Also, when Destiny comes out no one is going to remember defiance.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMaJaDiZ