Shotguns post Buckshot: Which are your favorites, which are the worst now?

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Originally Posted by mikeintheshell

Sure the burst shot is nice, in pvp maybe. But in pve, one can own with a fragger/grind fragger and blur combo. I own many boss types. Coupled with single minded I can reload while rolling and then keep running.

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Single Minded counts rolling as "standing still"? Really?

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Originally Posted by Shada Mori

Just an opinion thread really. I've always thought of myself as a shotgunner in game. Before anyone says it, no not because they were OP in PVP, in fact I don't really ever PVP.. I am just a shoot and scoot kind of player, like staying mobile and getting up close so shotguns fit me. I mostly use blur as an ego power in fact.

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Me too. My mag was 21 rounds, so 7 trigger pulls, it's down to 4 before a reload :(

The *Grind fragger is still doing its job in pvp for me. Otherwise I still enjoy all the FRC scatterguns.

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Originally Posted by Wtflag

I use VOT Fragger since the very start.

It is still the most powerful shotgun in PVP. (Excluding saw-off which have their own rules)

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Yeah. I rarely used mine before, but it seems to have become the best one. It saved my butt in pvp against 2 players who came up from behind. Overcharge and a VOT Fragger is no joke!

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Originally Posted by Shada Mori

Just an opinion thread really. I've always thought of myself as a shotgunner in game. Before anyone says it, no not because they were OP in PVP, in fact I don't really ever PVP.. I am just a shoot and scoot kind of player, like staying mobile and getting up close so shotguns fit me. I mostly use blur as an ego power in fact.

I used to love the VOT Auto-Fragger. Was just such a great killing tool. Sadly now post Buckshot patch I feel like its probably statistically the worst auto shotgun in the game now, and one of the worst overall. I begrudgingly and with a virtual tear in my eye salvaged the five I had.

Post patch I've been buying up every model I can find to see which one has the right flavor. I think I am a bit torn between....

FRC Berserker: which is funny cause I used to think of IT as the worst auto shotgun, but it seems to have gotten some level of tweak that now it kills real good.

VOT Fragger: It captures a lot of feel of the pre-nerf Auto Fragger only with two shot burst instead of three and being a pump action.

I was wondering has anyone else found new favorites?

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I feel the exact same bro.

My Auto shotty got messed bad...24 rounds to 13, and a damage decrease....I still have mine and use them..but I have a feeling there are better ones now after the patch....

The Grind Fragger seems to fire a bit slower than I remember. The nice thing about the VOT Fragger is that while it fires in two round bursts, it also reloads two shells in one reload animation.

I was just a regular autoloader guy with various nanos, extended mags, and a happy face.

Reduced mags don't give preparedness time to reload a full mag in my stowed SAW anymore. That means less time to reload the stowed shotgun.

Each cycle loads fewer rounds than the previous.

This, until I have to manually reload when I pull a weapon. So the shotgun AND preparedness both got nerfed to the point where they just don't get the ONLY job they have, accomplished.

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Originally Posted by Ryme

The Grind Fragger seems to fire a bit slower than I remember. The nice thing about the VOT Fragger is that while it fires in two round bursts, it also reloads two shells in one reload animation.

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Yes it does, and you can interrupt the full reload when needed. Love it.

For a long time the VBI CS-X Cluster Shot was my favourite and I still use it a lot, but nowadays I'm absolutely loving my Grind Fragger and it's quite weird that it actually feels more combat-ish than most combat shotguns.

The VAF is nice, but I don't get on as well with the burst weapons.

This is just me being honest, in my opinion- take it for what it's worth.

There is no useful shotgun anymore. I can do more damage, more effectively, with almost any other weapon since this nerf.

I used to LOVE VOT Fraggers and Auto-Fraggers. The lack of ammo coupled with the way mobs are grouped makes these weapons a hindrance now.

If they wanted to nerf this for PvP, they should have just done it- they added to the pistol ammo pool for PvP only in a previous patch; why couldn't they nerf the shotgun ammo capacity for PvP only? Makes no sense. Poor balancing.

So, now I switched guns, and await their next terrible idea of "balance".