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And I got it. Was initially going to get the Metal Gear Solid series, and still plan on it, but yea. Sale.
Looking for tips. Never played the series. I know it is hard and all, I did a little research. So, I decided to go with the Thief class for an additional challenge.
Get good at dodging and reading the bosses' movement patterns. I platinumed it for PS3 around when it came out, so I can't speak to whether it's been changed since them or balanced differently. You can't go wrong with working up your pyromancy skill and be good at blocking. Some bosses can be made a lot easier by being able to tank it with a shield.
If you're going into a hard boss fight, make sure you spend all your souls to level up.
Would it be a good idea to grind early on?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdirty
My first mistake, hold on to the boss souls, they come in handy in ways beyond leveling up. My second mistake, start with a pyromancer, it's the quickest way to get started with pyromancy. The other fighting styles were easy to find and learn on my own. That's all I got, except, level up as soon as you can, don't try to hold onto souls. Beyond that, have fun! :)
Always grind. Always.
Farm for Humanity.
Definitely learn to parry - can only be done with smaller shields and some off-hand weapons.
Some enemies will make you REALLY want a heavy shield, though.
Strafe a LOT and go for backstabs.
Most importantly, be VERY patient in your combat.
Learn to kick reliably, as it drops most enemies shields.
Same for the leaping attacks and rising (from a roll) attacks (they don't drop shields, I just meant learn 'em!)
Practice with ALL weapon types to see what you like.
Once you level enough, it wouldn't hurt to have spells AND miracles on-hand, especially for when you're invaded.
If you're actually into the game and not just testing the waters, you're going to LOVE it dude. You're in for one hell of a ride.
OH, and don't be fooled into thinking there's no decent story - listen to NPC's, pay attention to level detail, and read descriptions. You'll be surprised at how layered it actually is. The coolest thing is learned who is/are the good guy(s) and such. It really has a neat story.
The most important advice you will receive in this thread is right there (no disrespect intended to all of the other good advice). This game is meant to test you and those whose patience wears thin will get frustrated very easily. Once you get frustrated, the game has the advantage. I know that sounds weird but I assure you it is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obderiath
Ob gave some good advice about parrying and kicking. Personally, I always preferred kicking. Not that parries are not essential, but sometimes in a pinch, it can do more harm than good depending on wether or not you land the parry. Mistakes cost you dearly in this game.
If you have a moment, get a pencil and paper and plot out how you wish to build your character. The souls required for a single point in the mid 200 SL range is staggering (unless you pvp a lot, which can be pretty bountiful soul-wise I understand) so having a "map" of sorts will save you a lot of headaches. Think of the type of weapons you wish to use, the armor and shield you wish to use as well when formulating this map so that you can better fine tune where you wish to put your points as all of the above may require you be at a base level in any given stat to be able to use.
Be mindful of your equipment burden. Nothing worse than trying to dodge a deadly attack and flat rolling.
Efficient stamina = a strong shield arm. However, once you reach the 40 points spent range, the actual benefit to the amount of stamina you gain is essentially nothing. At that point you're only reason for stamina input (which is actually your endurance stat if I remember correctly) would be for your equipment burden. However, this can be better adjusted (so long as you don't mind giving up the one ring slot) by using Havel's ring.
Speaking of gear...You'll come across an abundant amount. Invest in what you will mainly use (as far as leveling it) but don't be afraid to go back utilize different sets/make-ups as you open up newer areas. Some of the gear is better suited for certain areas.
Don't overlook the importance of poise if you're going for a more tankish type of build. A high poise can save you when you get your shield up in time to block a major attack that would normally stagger you in the sense that you are much, MUCH harder to stagger. Couple this with a good end/vit stat placement and you'll be able stand in with enemies you normally wouldn't.
Violet also gave sound advice about the boss souls. Some of them can be used to produce some pretty powerful weaponry and such.
Not only is it funny to watch sometimes, but utilizing blood splatters or watching ghosts can really be beneficial when you're in a new area. Don't forget to bow as a sign of respect after watching the death of a fellow traveler. <--- Okay, that one you DON'T have to do but it was part of my character's m.o. so I always did lol.
Don't forget to wave or bow before leaving a bonfire! It's a lonely dangerous trek out there and one of the cooler things I would see/do when I played a lot was to do this, or see someone else do it before venturing out. The game will have you speaking in tongues enough if you're not careful so it's good to know others are trekking through the same ordeal. If you're at a bonfire long enough, others will be able to see you so don't feel silly in wishing your fellow Lost Ones good luck ;). <--- Again that's optional, BUT, I have found that the more you allow yourself to become a part of the lore that is this game, the more fun of an already chaotic ride it will be.
Beware the archers of Anor Londo Ledge
Damn them, they can be a pain. But simple strategies, one for solo play and one if you can manage a buddy. Get a good bow and enough arrows, and if you're alone, position yourself so only one has you in his line of sight. Edge yourself until his arrows catch the grated fence but so you can still hit him. Get it right and you won't have to drop his health to zero, as you ca just knock him off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie Elsa
With a pal, have him stand right in front of you with a nice, heavy shield. As long as the other player keeps himself in position after knock-back, you'll have yourself a nice, perfect barrier.
It's preferred for the shooter to have the Dragon Great-Bow, but that requires having to get past them, so that's a no-go on your first playthrough - unless a friend has one!
I had to take a break. I got to this giant red demon thing that I have to fight on this giant wall on my way to ring the Undead Church Bell.
Did manage to get to level 24 though.
You can parry bare-handed.
It's a good way to learn how without damaging equipment. (By being nude).
ensu... what brought you to OT? aren't you supposed to be the champion of logic and well-thought out posts in general? (ie- the only person there who does it)
Sleepy and dont wanna read..will tomorrow..\\but dark souls is so great...i loved it and got 1000 gamerscore for it...very few games do i feel the need to max out all acheivments...but this was one of them.
a dark, challenging, different game. rewarding as hell and very much worth thr buy imo...
I didn't realise it was my job to be so. I was here a lot back in beta, and I still browse. When I have something to say, I post. It's not always well thought out.Quote:
Originally Posted by cypheon
To the OP, if you're going thief and plan on raising your dex to 40/45, pyromancy is a strong ranged option due to the cast speed increase from all that dex. In addition to which, composite bows and the black bow of pharis are also very strong ranged options, for increased range and precision.
Dark Souls is way easier than Demon Souls actually and it's more fun too. My only advice would be to try and play in soul form in the beginning or offline because last time I played it (half a year ago) there were so many people hunting newbs as dark phantoms (if you learn the game, you can beat it at soul level 15 or so and then start over with all the good stuff maxed out to kill countless new players wearing rags):)
I have played this game more than any other game I own next to Demons Souls. I have a 100% in game complete. If you are looking for builds it just comes down to playing around with what you want to do. So first let me say this. First play the game beat it a few times and get your trophies. Then when you want to start builds say for pvp or pve and you want to test out to see what’s best for you etc then unpatch the game and make the run for Ash Lake with the master key for the Dragon Torso and infinite soul’s glitch. Then you can start your count at whatever level you want to test armors weapons etc. I found peaking at level 2 I was able to beat the game as a pyro and grief low level players etc. It was hard to solo queling at that level for the upgraded pyro, but since u have infinite souls and can upgrade weapons etc It took a few tries and I pulled it off. Also I ran up a few to 100 for pvp trying faith, magic, combos etc. Look online for a darksouls build calculator. It will let you see what the DMG etc you can pull from certain builds on stats etc. I think in the end I did two toons. A faith and Magic build based at level 50 using the dark magic on one and faith with the darkmoon blade at max level on the other. Fun game on invades etc.
Managed to beat the giant red demon, I flipped a **** when they dragon came down though.
Congrats! Soldier on!
The only suggestion I can give is don't give up. You will die, it will be frustrating, just don't give up on it. Its worth it to stick it out. Some bosses will seem impossible to beat, but you can do it. Grinding is a great way to help you if your really stuck, and each boss has a strategy that works best. Demon/Dark Souls in a nutshell? Trial and Error.
so i tried this game out last night.... before i take it back to gamestop out of boredom, i'll ask here...
do the animations ever speed up? or is everything moving this slow the entire game...?
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Originally Posted by cypheon
If you're talking about enemies, yes they do. Ornstein is scary fast.
If you're talking about your character, your attack speed is based on the weapon you're using. Some are very slow, some are not so slow, and Ricard's Rapier hits six times in a second.
i'm talking about everything.. walking, running, rolling, attacking, blocking... every animation i've seen has been so slow and drawn out that i can't play more than a few minutes before i get bored.
You must find real-life boring too. Seriously bro, SERIOUSLY? Are you seriously serious, and I mean seriously? It's all part of the tone. This game is supposed to shock and scare the hairs off your scrote. That can't happen if you zip around like a fly on coke. Serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by cypheon
EDIT: Oh, and if you're using rolls, blocks, and parries correctly, they're lightning-quick.
Oh, I see what you mean. Run speed, rolling, etc. are based on weight vs. endurance. Wearing cloth armour and carrying a dagger you'll move and roll far faster than with iron or leather and a battleaxe. However, you can boost endurance (and carry weight exclusively) allowing you to fast roll in heavy armour also. With the dark wood grain ring (ninja flip ring) this becomes particularly evident, because turning cartwheels around your enemies in full plate is quite entertaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by cypheon
So, put points in Endurance up to 40, and get Havel's Ring for lightning fast heavy armour.
Here's some heavy armour ninja flipping.
Really the only advice is just take your time, don't rush into things you're not sure of because...well....you'll die. Awesome game though.
Question. I've acquired a Fire Keeper Soul. If I use it once, does that mean my Estus Flask permanently restores more HP? Or is it for a short amount of time?
It is permanent, and persists through ng+ playthroughs.
Yep. Personally, I think you'd be silly to not level it up. That's more or less the only real use for them!Quote:
Originally Posted by PoLeo
****ing Capra Demon. Advice?
Huge shield, lots of Poise, and learn to lure him into striking.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoLeo
I fast-rolled and used soul arrow. Wasn't the easiest method, but it worked. Just about. Had to kill the dogs first with a melee weapon though.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoLeo
Capra demon the guy in the tight space with the stairs and 2 dogs?
I found the best method is to (obviously) take out the demon dogs first. The battle is a tad easier with only 1 target. I used the stairs as my best friend, repeatedly running up them, and doing jump attacks down on to him, or just using them for a fast getaway.
Or is Capra demon the big fatty?