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Maybe with Infectors the more you move and jump around the less accurate they become??
So if you are standing still and shooting it will home in on its target like normal. But if you are bunny hop strafing then the gun should shoot in all compass directions and not be able to hit anything.
That's not a terrible idea actually. Infectors ARE a bit out of hand, but meh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefarious
I don't want any more nerfs....there are ways around almost every tatic in this game, just gotta play around
The infectors are one of the cheapest weapon for pvp. The gun does its own damage and if that doesn't kill you the bugs will. You have a 50/50 chance of surviving depending on how fast you move and its Bull ****!
Lmfao Every person in pvp are using it. One minute shotguns were the flavor now its Infectors. Whats next? I'm about done for a while let this game catch dust and come back after 2months.
Wait until they nerf infectors of course, then we will see!Quote:
Originally Posted by Solo
Exactly. They’ll nerf infectors for the sake of pvp and people will just move to the next ‘cheap’ gun. The cycle continues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hope499
Interesting. I see several people who failed to develop an efficient counter to a power/weapon/etc blaming the build and ignoring the comments of people who can counter it, while still proclaiming themselves skilled PvPers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning...3Kruger_effect
In my humble opinion, Sensor Sweep should tick each second for the duration of Decoy and Immunizers should have a narrower homing angle than other infectors. I honestly haven't seen anything too bad beyond those two things, and those are fairly minor tweaks.
Those of you complaining about PvP (cloaks etc). Mind taking a screen shot of your Climbing the Ranks of Echelon IV Pursuit? Would like to see how much time you have PvP'd (if less than 50 hours)
If they give the proper fix to cloak along with the infector then everything will be solid. And the distance game will change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finish the Fight
We could actually have firefights :eek:
have you never played a pvp game before or are you just ignorant?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefarious
if and when they nerf infectors people will just complain about something else. likely the SAW or VOT tachmag/regular pulsers.
nerfing weapons does not fix pvp. it just shifts the meta in a different direction. i really can't figure out what is so hard to understand about that.
This ain't your average fish game. [google COD for reference]Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentBob420BMFJ
Besides, I don't obsess over multiplayer, so I don't mind it so much. It's fun to play for an hour or two once in a while to get your REP or whatever. I consider this PvP more fair than most. I don't live to grind MP endlessly, just to get a better skill level and weapon, just to go back and win at grinding endlessly.
Had to quit playing 'Max Payne 3' multiplayer due to that type of play.
Whats this have to do with anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by Intense
If someone Q's up for pvp for the first time then comes in complaining after going 1-9 then its obvious that they want the game made easy mode for them without putting in time to get better. Since you didnt know, it shows how many hours played in PvP if its under 50hrs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefarious
I have all the Echelon pursuits done along with 500 cloak kills and level 10 with infectors. So when Im saying for myself these things are OP I know from experience from both ends of the spectrum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Intense
Ppl are not talking out their ***'s when saying Cloak and infectors are Over Powered. Just look at the way they work. And look of how many ppl use'em. Its obvious.
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I however disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefarious
lol I guess you don't play PvP then. If you did then you would undoubtedly see that these things are the most abused and used. Not only that there are countless threads pointing this fact out. I guess everyone is far off on this silly theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Intense
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Originally Posted by Nefarious
I also disagree and I DO play pvp. Just because something is used frequently doesn’t mean is OP…it means it’s easy to use. As far as other threads about this subject…there are threads about people being on meds and not paying attention that bought Lockboxes with bits by mistake and they still rage at Trion for their own said mistake..so yea..
Child mentality, I disagree so I must not PvP. I do PvP. However I can also accept the fact that other people are better than me. I dont come to the boards screaming that XXX is OP. I dont care if I'm at the top of the leaderboard or the bottom. I have fun competing against others. Most of the time when I die its because I did something stupid or they aim'd and fired faster than me big deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefarious
I will see your 50 hours and raise you 39423 pics of me in the top 3 on FYQuote:
Originally Posted by Intense
So if you are at the top of these matches then whats the issue?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gratty
And of you read that thread ppl overwhelming agree on how bit purchases being in the lock boxes is pretty lame and should be secluded to the store only so mistakes like that don't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finish the Fight
Well running into 5 people all using immunizers and focusing fire on you is a rather large nuisance. There is no legitimate reasoning as to why it would be okay for that to happen. it happens to me quite often. I honestly got over how ridiculous the cloak is in this game. It got to the point where I love hunting for those damned cloakers, and they all get a nice t-bag when I am done with them. It is how I vent my anger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Intense
Still dont see the issue if you are still in top three. You did better than everyone else except 2 people. 5 People focus firing on your with xxx there is very little chance for survival...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gratty
Try playing on consoles and you will experience my pain. Once you do so and you fail to experience what I have, then I will forever drop my argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Intense
I point these things out for the sake of balance and better gameplay. What we have now is a few select things being used that out do and over shadow everything else. And that's a shame because the game has a lot more to offer then that but never gets the chance because these things are op'd and everyone uses them the moment they can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Intense
The fact you are getting top 3 proves that other setups are very much viable...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gratty
Once again, play on my platform for a good period of time and see if you can experience my frustration. It is to my understanding that PC players do not share the same experience as the console players. I do not know, since I am not a console player. Different platforms = potentially different issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Intense
My consistency does not affect my issue with a specific weapon.
And if I remember this game is supposed to be skilled based an not determined by rolls or how buff your character might be.
Skill with the infector or cloak is non-existent. No tactics or thinking needed. And to top it off everyone is using these things. So with that we have sloppy PvP gameplay.
again, have you ever played any pvp in other games? there will always be a few guns/loadouts that are stronger than everything else. unless you remove every single variable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefarious
how many times must this be said before it sinks in....
Yeah I have played other games. But now Im playing Defiance. And I want it to be a happy place for all! :D:):o;):pQuote:
Originally Posted by greatdividers
the game is skill based, any half-wit can see that. if it wasn't the people at the top of leaderboards wouldn't do so consistently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefarious
better yet, if it's not skill based, go ahead and take a screenshot of you going 40+ kills 0 deaths in freight yard.
Cloak and Infectors are not skilled based.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatdividers
again, not true. some people use infectors or cloak significantly better than other people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefarious
how is that even remotely difficult to see? or am i getting trolled...
I think we are getting trolled LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by greatdividers
Q effing Q
its not a lack of integrity that causes someone to fashion their playstyle in a way that provides the most amount of kills/captures/destroys... its intelligence.
Having a gun with AIM BOT like auto aim and walking up to ppl while invisible and blasting them takes skill?
No.
Ppl who seem to be better at using these things don't have skill as much as they do patience to wait and shoot others in the back or to snag kills wounded by other teammates.
i've finally figured it out!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefarious
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...jpg?1260647699
hmm pointing out stuff that hinders the game makes me mad?Quote:
Originally Posted by greatdividers
No.
A lot of ppl don't like the idea that a weapon and a power are the be all end all things to use. It makes for the most repetitive PvP ever. Tweeks to these things can even things out though so that cloak and infectors both have a specific purpose instead of being better by miles of everything else. The way these things work take away from the game over all.
Can't please everyone. People worried about their K/D. People worried about how much skill it takes to do XXX in a match. People worried about others moving around in a manner that makes the hard to hit. It never ends.
all i can do is facepalm and laugh at this pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Nefarious
See the real funny thing is that you are the only one. Who cares about you. Everyone else says it be so. So you are part of the 1% of ppl that say cloak and infectors are not OP'd. Im just pointing out the obvious here just like so many others. Its nothing special or something that's hard in that you have to delve into it to figure out. Its there in the open for all to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatdividers
So what we have here is the obvious vs oblivious lol.