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  • 06-06-2013, 02:55 PM
    Solo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by greatdividers View Post
    the game is skill based, any half-wit can see that. if it wasn't the people at the top of leaderboards wouldn't do so consistently.

    better yet, if it's not skill based, go ahead and take a screenshot of you going 40+ kills 0 deaths in freight yard.

    Real skill with an infector lmfao. Maybe I should use it and get 40+ kills 0 deaths and call myself the best.
  • 06-06-2013, 02:58 PM
    greatdividers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solo View Post
    Real skill with an infector lmfao. Maybe I should use it and get 40+ kills 0 deaths and call myself the best.

    thank you for showing the intelligence of a typical infector whiner
  • 06-06-2013, 02:58 PM
    jopa
    there is no be all and end all in PVP. youre forgetting that you can only cloak for 15 seconds maxed. there are perks that can quickly reduce the down time and increase cloak for an additional five seconds, but those are at the expense of defense perks. those who rely purely on cloak are often the easiest to kill.
  • 06-06-2013, 02:59 PM
    Solo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by greatdividers View Post
    thank you for showing the intelligence of a typical infector whiner

    hmph Sir plz.
  • 06-06-2013, 03:00 PM
    Intense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solo View Post
    Real skill with an infector lmfao. Maybe I should use it and get 40+ kills 0 deaths and call myself the best.

    I challenge you to try. Make sure you get a screen shot. Should be easy right?
  • 06-06-2013, 03:01 PM
    Intense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nefarious View Post
    See the real funny thing is that you are the only one. Who cares about you. Everyone else says it be so. So you are part of the 1% of ppl that say cloak and infectors are not OP'd. Im just pointing out the obvious here just like so many others. Its nothing special or something that's hard in that you have to delve into it to figure out. Its there in the open for all to see.

    So what we have here is the obvious vs oblivious lol.

    He isn't the only one
  • 06-06-2013, 03:02 PM
    Solo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Intense View Post
    I challenge you to try. Make sure you get a screen shot. Should be easy right?

    Trolling at its best.
  • 06-06-2013, 03:03 PM
    Nefarious
    Oh yeaaa. Cloak and infectors are not over powered at all! My mistake!

    That's why we see countless threads pointing out how they are not overpowerd and how they are the least things used in PvP by...idk...Everyone!

    lol what a joke. No doubt cloak and infectors will get their fix. It to obvious of why and to many ppl are posting threads pointing out the reasons. Ppl on the defense for these overpowerd/unbalanced things would have better luck ice skating up hill.
  • 06-06-2013, 03:05 PM
    Intense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solo View Post
    Trolling at its best.

    And putting you in place because you cant back up your BS
  • 06-06-2013, 03:05 PM
    Nefarious
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Intense View Post
    He isn't the only one

    Well it takes a lot to come out and to admit you are also oblivious.

    Im proud of you bud.
  • 06-06-2013, 03:14 PM
    Solo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nefarious View Post
    Oh yeaaa. Cloak and infectors are not over powered at all! My mistake!

    That's why we see countless threads pointing out how they are not overpowerd and howthey are the least things used in PvP by...idk...Everyone!

    lol what a joke. No doubt cloak and infectors will get their fix. It to obvious of why and to many ppl are posting threads pointing out the reasons. Ppl on the defense for these overpowerd/unbalanced things would have better luck ice skating up hill.

    Which is true. While others don't want it balance because they're using them and it will hurt their advantage over other players. For example: The Shotgun mag nerf.

    Everyone was using shotguns, now to some people they are useless. So now they move to another weapon that does over excessive amount of damage. When one person sees that they use it then another then another. A chain reaction.
  • 06-06-2013, 03:15 PM
    Solo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Intense View Post
    And putting you in place because you cant back up your BS

    I thought I was mad, but you sound mad bro.
  • 06-06-2013, 03:16 PM
    NomadPhx
    its not the infectors in general,just the immunizer. i check loadouts its always an immunizer. not complaining just clearifying.
  • 06-06-2013, 03:21 PM
    greatdividers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solo View Post
    Real skill with an infector lmfao. Maybe I should use it and get 40+ kills 0 deaths and call myself the best.

    go ahead and do it. you have officially been called out, so step up or prove me right.

    or is there some factor in which you don't posses that is required? skill maybe?
  • 06-06-2013, 03:22 PM
    Intense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solo View Post
    I thought I was mad, but you sound mad bro.

    How am I mad? Just calling out another cry baby running their mouth. You call yourself The Showoff, show us you going 40-0 with an immunizer like you claimed.
  • 06-06-2013, 03:23 PM
    Solo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by greatdividers View Post
    go ahead and do it. you have officially been called out, so step up or prove me right.

    or is there some factor in which you don't posses that is required? skill maybe?

    You sound mad bro.
  • 06-06-2013, 03:25 PM
    greatdividers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solo View Post
    You sound mad bro.

    you can post the screenshot in one of the "post your best score in X map" threads on the pvp forum, i'll be waiting... well not really because it's not going to happen
  • 06-06-2013, 03:27 PM
    NeverMiss
    Its too easy with Infector I destroy ppl with infector no ego perk or power. this game takes no skill at all
  • 06-06-2013, 03:29 PM
    Intense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solo View Post
    You sound mad bro.

    You backpedaling from your statement bro?
  • 06-06-2013, 03:30 PM
    Intense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeverMiss View Post
    Its too easy with Infector I destroy ppl with infector no ego perk or power. this game takes no skill at all

    Your screen name and the above post is epic! thumbs up lol
  • 06-06-2013, 03:33 PM
    Solo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Intense View Post
    You backpedaling from your statement bro?

    I'm sorry I was busy going 36-0 in freight yard. No skill what so ever.
  • 06-06-2013, 03:36 PM
    Gratty
    The PvP community of Defiance is so kind and civil
  • 06-06-2013, 03:44 PM
    Solo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeverMiss View Post
    Its too easy with Infector I destroy ppl with infector no ego perk or power. this game takes no skill at all

    Just went 36-0.
  • 06-06-2013, 03:52 PM
    Nyymi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nefarious View Post
    See the real funny thing is that you are the only one. Who cares about you. Everyone else says it be so. So you are part of the 1% of ppl that say cloak and infectors are not OP'd. Im just pointing out the obvious here just like so many others. Its nothing special or something that's hard in that you have to delve into it to figure out. Its there in the open for all to see.

    So what we have here is the obvious vs oblivious lol.

    I think you are getting trolled here.

    Even in PvE its easy to see that Immunizer needs next to no aiming to hit stuff, just hover crosshair somehere near the enemy and it will hit unless they go LoS.

    Granted i havent even stepped to pvp yet and still the day i shot that weapon firstime i instantly tought "damn this weapon is so getting abused in pvp" and seems i was right. Next thing that gets propably abused is cloak and that new chargeblade, depending how hard it hits and how much crit multiplier it has.

    EDIT: Fixed infector with immunizer as other infectors are slightly more balcanced aiming vice.
  • 06-06-2013, 03:53 PM
    Intense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solo View Post
    I'm sorry I was busy going 36-0 in freight yard. No skill what so ever.

    Proof?

    /10char
  • 06-06-2013, 04:08 PM
    Kiserai
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nyymi View Post
    Granted i havent even stepped to pvp yet

    This is a perfect example of what I was talking about earlier.
  • 06-06-2013, 04:12 PM
    Nefarious
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kiserai View Post
    This is a perfect example of what I was talking about earlier.

    lol Yeah but the funny thing is that he is right. Its that obvious.
  • 06-06-2013, 04:24 PM
    Solo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Intense View Post
    Proof?

    /10char

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MqxSmH4CEl...00/hansolo.jpg
  • 06-06-2013, 04:29 PM
    Intense
    Thats what I thought. lies
  • 06-06-2013, 04:32 PM
    Nefarious
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Intense View Post
    Thats what I thought. lies

    Nah not lies. It happing while using cloak and infector is not far fetched. Saying he might of did it while using those things is as strong of a statement as saying the sky is blue.
  • 06-06-2013, 04:33 PM
    Wtflag
    Question: who is the real Han Solo?

    The one with part of the name, or the one who shoots first?
  • 06-06-2013, 05:36 PM
    Kroesis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by uninhabitableheart View Post
    The person who said they are morons - look up "irony"

    http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1.../hBDF92772.jpg
  • 06-15-2013, 08:06 PM
    SilentBob420BMFJ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jbob spittlewop View Post
    Oh I'm sorry, I must have given the impression that I suck at pvp because I was pointing out an obvious imbalance that needs to be addressed. I do just fine, not that it even really matters when You can sit at the spawn and do donuts in a runner the whole match and get the same reward. But that's a whole different thing, what I'm talking about is how every player is using the same thing. At first it was ok, a few guys with cloak, spotty and an injector running around nbd. But now, it's gotten to the point where every player is doing the exact same thing. So by your logic, does every player have the same adaptable skills? If not and yet they continue to do the same thing, then it is a clear sign of an imbalance.

    This!!!!!!
  • 06-15-2013, 08:10 PM
    SilentBob420BMFJ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BrassRazoo View Post
    Any PvP where the "top" players mostly hip fire just means it is a crap implementation of PvP.
    There is seriously something wrong when most players don't actually have to aim their guns properly.
    Aimless PvP like this you just run / hide and pop out behind someone and hip fire.
    It was my understating you had to aim guns, not point them in the general direction of the enemy and fire.
    Simple game, simple PvP.

    Also, two maps for PvP deathmatch, are you serious?
    It just goes to show that this was tacked on at the last minute.

    I wish every player saw this post.
  • 06-15-2013, 11:31 PM
    Billy Guile
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wtflag View Post
    Question: who is the real Han Solo?

    The one with part of the name, or the one who shoots first?


    irrelevant. greedo shot first ;)
  • 06-16-2013, 12:03 AM
    defiant
    The learning curve is, there is no learning curve. Sadly it's join them if you can't beat them, ..mmo-rpg pvp is a different story and what I was hoping for, because even though it sucks to be owned by a master who no doubt made better build-gear choices, its a fantasy world of respect and real learning on the way to the top. In defiance you have a floaty arcade style deathmatch that belongs in smaller number High quality matches like you see in cod and battlefield. The mix match is disorienting and is a step backwards in genre growth. Since you can't always trust the flawed systems that run defiance in the first place,( hit detection, cover, etc) having them combined with arcade mechanics like low gravity jumping? And rather poorly thought out Ego powers makes for a Childish experience where hardcore gamers are demoted to button smashers.
  • 06-16-2013, 12:08 AM
    Cortechs
    All of this posturing is juvenile and pointless. At the end of the day, all that matters is what Trion thinks. I suspect they have plenty of data to assess the weapons, their frequency, and how often players return to PvP after experiencing the cloak/infector/shotgun "game" we have now.

    Personally, I decided I wasn't going to waste my time expending 10x the effort it requires to compete with rogues with homing needles and pets. I've gone back to other games for PvP. And for me, it is a much more enjoyable and balanced experience.
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