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  • 06-06-2013, 07:20 PM
    lumpy
    Votan Collective committing Human genocide?
    So About the plague, I noticed that they have a field hospital at the Votan ambassadors building. (Ara Shandu)

    Now if you are noticing some of the new missions you can see that trucks are driving stage 4 human infected to Internment camps, The majority of which fail and then Eren asks you murder sick people

    How is the E-rep allowing this to happen?! It's borderline genocide and they are literally being shipped away from the Votan embassy!

    Wouldn't this be worth exploring more than just a little update considering hundreds maybe thousands of people are being ordered executed?
  • 06-06-2013, 07:25 PM
    thejx4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    So About the plague, I noticed that they have a field hospital at the Votan ambassadors building. (Ara Shandu)

    Now if you are noticing some of the new missions you can see that trucks are driving stage 4 human infected to Internment camps, The majority of which fail and then Eren asks you murder sick people

    How is the E-rep allowing this to happen?! It's borderline genocide and they are literally being shipped away from the Votan embassy!

    Wouldn't this be worth exploring more than just a little update considering hundreds maybe thousands of people are being ordered executed?

    People are sick.
  • 06-06-2013, 07:27 PM
    lumpy
    So are the Votans (irathiants) why not round all them up to be executed as well?
    It is their plague.

    But the main reason I created this thread is why isn't this a bigger deal than it is?
  • 06-06-2013, 07:28 PM
    Wtflag
    Given that stage 4s are beyond medical aid, letting them remain and endangering those who still have a chance to wait out a cure is the logical thing to do. Or do you prefer if we just let the stage 4s eat the stage 1-3?
  • 06-06-2013, 07:32 PM
    Era
    Internment Camp: Help some ER soldiers regain control when some over zealous rebels attempt to liberate their plague infected loved ones.

    Four things we can take away from this. 1, E-Rep is operating in conjunction with Paradise since Ara would have to okay having locals quarantined. 2, not every human is happy about the quarantines. 3, E-Rep is a party to the "genocide" (mercy killings). And 4, Plaguers are only being put down when they hit stage 4 which is incurable (only have a few hours to live after hitting stage 4), presenting the greatest risk of transmission, and dangerously violent.
  • 06-06-2013, 07:32 PM
    lumpy
    So you say "stage 4's" are no longer people.

    Why do we allow Irathients to spread the disease then, if you prefer logic wouldn't it make sense just to stop the disease before stage 1?
  • 06-06-2013, 07:33 PM
    Era
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    So are the Votans (irathiants) why not round all them up to be executed as well?
    It is their plague.

    What makes you think that there aren't Iraths in quarantine? Typhoid Mary ended up in quarantine despite being asymptomatic cause she killed a lot of people.
  • 06-06-2013, 07:37 PM
    Epyon
    I say they should move them while in stage 3. So when they finally hit stage 4 theyre at an isolated location where we can "cure" them. As for the Irathiants, they hold partial responsibility with their "hippieness" and all, so they should also be transported somewhere isolated to be "cured", thus stopping the spread of the disease. This way we all win.
  • 06-06-2013, 07:38 PM
    lumpy
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    Originally Posted by Era View Post
    What makes you think that there aren't Iraths in quarantine? Typhoid Mary ended up in quarantine despite being asymptomatic cause she killed a lot of people.


    I'm aware, but it just doesn't make sense that Humans are paying for a disease that Iraths cause, it seems to me like it would be a reasonable excuse to start a war.
  • 06-06-2013, 07:43 PM
    3rdpig
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    I'm aware, but it just doesn't make sense that Humans are paying for a disease that Iraths cause, it seems to me like it would be a reasonable excuse to start a war.

    If caused intentionally then yes. If unintentional it would be the gravest of follies.
  • 06-06-2013, 07:45 PM
    Wtflag
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    So you say "stage 4's" are no longer people.

    Why do we allow Irathients to spread the disease then, if you prefer logic wouldn't it make sense just to stop the disease before stage 1?


    1. That is correct. Their new classification is zombie.

    2. If you stop the disease at stage 1, where will we get zombies?
  • 06-06-2013, 07:47 PM
    lumpy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wtflag View Post
    1. That is correct. Their new classification is zombie.

    2. If you stop the disease at stage 1, where will we get zombies?

    Well I'm sure Von Bach Industries can come up with something.
  • 06-06-2013, 07:48 PM
    Wtflag
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 3rdpig View Post
    If caused intentionally then yes. If unintentional it would be the gravest of follies.

    Most likely the result of *extremely* close relationship between a human and irath.
  • 06-06-2013, 07:54 PM
    Wtflag
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    Well I'm sure Von Bach Industries can come up with something.

    The odds of a mega corporation dealing in weaponry instigating a war by creating a biological weapon based on an alien disease is not outside the realm of possibility. In fact it might have already happened ...
  • 06-06-2013, 08:02 PM
    Era
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    I'm aware, but it just doesn't make sense that Humans are paying for a disease that Iraths cause, it seems to me like it would be a reasonable excuse to start a war.

    3 Problems with this
    1. The source of the disease is no longer in town
    2. Reasonable people don't start a genocide over a plague just cause some people don't get as sick as others.
    3. Iraths don't cause the disease, they have the disease.
  • 06-06-2013, 08:08 PM
    poisd2strike
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    I'm aware, but it just doesn't make sense that Humans are paying for a disease that Iraths cause, it seems to me like it would be a reasonable excuse to start a war.

    Well, it is also possible that someone wants to blame this disease on the Irathients, even though they may not be responsible. Perhaps a group of humans wanted to create some sort of "human super soldier" and things went horribly wrong. So, they decided to find a convenient scapegoat. That scapegoat happened to be the Irathients. Or maybe you have certain Votans and Humans colluding to re-start the War. Maybe the Votan created some sort of last resort Bioweapon, before the Peace Treaty was signed, but never had a chance to use it and someone has found it. Wouldn't surprise me if the Indogene were somehow involved, in the initial creation. Of course, it is also possible that the Irathients do actually carry some sort of disease that does afflict humans. Regardless, I would not consider putting someone out of their misery (stage 4) as genocide. It is, more or less, an unfortunate but necessary act of mercy at that point.
  • 06-06-2013, 09:16 PM
    Kierro Kai
    My fellow Irathient brothers and sisters, may hate humans. But we wouldn't go so far as to create a plague, because we'd be know different than you and your wars. As some of us may hate it, we are biologically close to each other. The plague is our form of the human common cold. It just hits humans like Razor Rain... I will say... May Irzu ease their suffering.
  • 06-06-2013, 09:41 PM
    Nefarious
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    So About the plague, I noticed that they have a field hospital at the Votan ambassadors building. (Ara Shandu)

    Now if you are noticing some of the new missions you can see that trucks are driving stage 4 human infected to Internment camps, The majority of which fail and then Eren asks you murder sick people

    What new missions are you talking about? The road side ones?
  • 06-06-2013, 09:51 PM
    lumpy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nefarious View Post
    What new missions are you talking about? The road side ones?

    Yes those ones.
  • 06-06-2013, 09:56 PM
    ghost_ol3a
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wtflag View Post
    1. That is correct. Their new classification is zombie.

    2. If you stop the disease at stage 1, where will we get zombies?

    according to across the badlands they are not zombies. and will only be around for 2 weeks, thank god
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