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  • 06-07-2013, 12:05 AM
    Jameson Darko
    Please Respond Trion, Lockboxes are Broken
    For the sake of the Community, I spent $50 on bits, and recieved a 108% bonus, ending up with approximately 10,400 bits.

    I bought

    14 x TIER 4 Lockboxes = 5,600 bits
    10 x TIER 3 Lockboxes = 2,400 bits
    20 x TIER 2 Lockboxes = 2,400 bits

    I recieved exactly 0 Orange weapons for $100.00. Thanks Trion.

    This transaction can be traced to my PSN Account: Knife_the_Planet
  • 06-07-2013, 12:08 AM
    ncanning
    hmm, since you appear to have got all the duds, I'ma gonna go shopping now.
  • 06-07-2013, 12:09 AM
    Commandermech
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jameson Darko View Post
    For the sake of the Community, I spent $50 on bits, and recieved a 108% bonus, ending up with approximately 10,400 bits.

    I bought

    14 x TIER 4 Lockboxes = 5,600 bits
    10 x TIER 3 Lockboxes = 2,400 bits
    20 x TIER 2 Lockboxes = 2,400 bits

    I recieved exactly 0 Orange weapons for $100.00. Thanks Trion.

    This transaction can be traced to my PSN Account: Knife_the_Planet

    Well first of all who the fudge spends 100$ on lockboxes lol you should know its like playing the lottery were getting and orange is a very small percentage. Yeah I purchased 2 lock boxes and that was it lol. Its easy enough to earn key codes and you don't have to waste money.
  • 06-07-2013, 12:10 AM
    MrClip26
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jameson Darko View Post
    For the sake of the Community, I spent $50 on bits, and recieved a 108% bonus, ending up with approximately 10,400 bits.

    I bought

    14 x TIER 4 Lockboxes = 5,600 bits
    10 x TIER 3 Lockboxes = 2,400 bits
    20 x TIER 2 Lockboxes = 2,400 bits

    I recieved exactly 0 Orange weapons for $100.00. Thanks Trion.

    This transaction can be traced to my PSN Account: Knife_the_Planet

    `1st of all why spend any on t3 and t2..no wonder why you didnt get any
  • 06-07-2013, 12:12 AM
    Jameson Darko
    it was 50$ with a 108% bonus on bits, so it ended up being 100$ in bits
  • 06-07-2013, 12:14 AM
    ghost_ol3a
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MrClip26 View Post
    `1st of all why spend any on t3 and t2..no wonder why you didnt get any

    i got all my oranges form t3
  • 06-07-2013, 12:14 AM
    Durva360
    Oranges are supposed to be hard to obtain. I'm laughing more at the fact you spent that much $$$ on lockboxes
  • 06-07-2013, 12:15 AM
    phen0meenal
    I remember playing ME3 and spending around 100$ on packs hoping for ultra-rares. Got one.

    It's all RNG, bro.
  • 06-07-2013, 12:16 AM
    Commandermech
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jameson Darko View Post
    it was 50$ with a 108% bonus on bits, so it ended up being 100$ in bits

    Okay first of all its a bad idea buying lock boxes with bits becouse you get more angry when you don't get orange weapons.
    Just do the co-op mission scrapyard in 10 minutes and you get 5 keycodes per try and you won't feel so bad for not getting orange weapon. Only things worth buying in defiance store are armors boosts and inventory slots.
  • 06-07-2013, 12:17 AM
    MrClip26
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ghost_ol3a View Post
    i got all my oranges form t3

    i got `1 from a t3..not saying dont buy em..BUT how does buying more t2's than t4's make any sense..then complain that you didnt get any oranges..yea the loot i been getting the last 2 days has been horrible..but i notice new items in the rotation so i dont care
  • 06-07-2013, 12:17 AM
    Schmiznurf
    It's just the luck of the draw. If you got oranges all the time, they wouldn't be so rare.
  • 06-07-2013, 12:19 AM
    TA Mastermind
    TRION! Please do the bits bonus on XBOX! =) I have 16000 Points for you. Plzzzzzzz
  • 06-07-2013, 12:19 AM
    Xanirus
    There's a difference between "broken" and "having a very low percentage."

    Please stop abusing the term that it seems so many people like to do.
  • 06-07-2013, 12:21 AM
    Commandermech
    I have purchased 5 tier 4 lockboxes got 1 legendary
    I have purchased 35 tier 3 lockboxrs got 5 legendaries
    I have purchased 50 tier 2 lock boxes got 0 legendaries

    So buying tier 3 has a pretty good chance to get legendary weapons.
  • 06-07-2013, 12:26 AM
    NomadPhx
    ive gotten 1 from a tier 2, and the rest from 3 an 4. i dont tier 2 very often but the ones i get from tier 4 seem to be slightly better than the tier 3...
  • 06-07-2013, 12:36 AM
    Commandermech
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NomadPhx View Post
    ive gotten 1 from a tier 2, and the rest from 3 an 4. i dont tier 2 very often but the ones i get from tier 4 seem to be slightly better than the tier 3...

    Yeah tier 3 is much better becouse tier 4 lock boxes cost way to many key codes 1 tier 4 lock box 64 codes 4 weapons or 3 tier 3 lockboxes
    72 key codes 9 weapons.
  • 06-07-2013, 12:37 AM
    Ferah
    today i have bought 0 bits and got a legendary saw to add to my collection of orange weapons of which i also spent 0 bits on. buying the lock boxes with real money is a joke and foolish
  • 06-07-2013, 12:39 AM
    richard montoya
    My friend just got three oranges and not bad ones at that.
  • 06-07-2013, 12:51 AM
    Wtflag
    Getting an orange isn't an issue.

    Getting a good orange with all the right mods, that is the hard part.
  • 06-07-2013, 01:29 AM
    fang1192
    Thank you for funding the server upkeep. Now buy a dictionary and look up what "random" and "at least" means.
  • 06-07-2013, 01:33 AM
    Rainman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ncanning View Post
    hmm, since you appear to have got all the duds, I'ma gonna go shopping now.

    haha briliant :)
  • 06-07-2013, 02:07 AM
    Nyako
    I have gotten one gold weapon a while back from a tier 4 lock box. Sadly, it was the only way I've ever gotten a gold/orange lettered weapon before. Maybe, it is like other games, the odds of landing good loot is low but maybe the tier 3 lock box has more potential good weapons. Would be nice to at least know.

    That one orange though was shtako since it was like 100 or so on the Ego rating.
  • 06-07-2013, 02:12 AM
    Etny
    I will buy bits once a week just to donate to such a great company. This is one of the few major corporations that can afford to make games like this. The future is certain of gaming for our children with service like this. I buy armor and inventory. I did get 3 t-4 boxes and got 2 legendaries last month.
  • 06-07-2013, 03:03 AM
    squidgod2000
    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you want oranges, stick to T4's.
  • 06-07-2013, 03:39 AM
    Schmiznurf
    Since yesterday I have bought 5, maybe 6, tier 3 lockboxes. It could even be less than that. I now have an orange detonator and an orange smg.
  • 06-07-2013, 04:18 AM
    Assasino
    Wow i would not have spent that either. Thing is that some do not realize yes orange are rare however from what i hear they are not better then purple or in some cases blue weapons. Myself i only have 2 oranges out of countless trying from tiers 2-4 and my Purple weapons far exceed them
  • 06-07-2013, 04:25 AM
    m33pm33p
    Damn..my first T3 I got a super nice orange derailer...Then, the next day, I purchased the digital upgrade, guess what came in that lockbox? A damn near best in class Orange Shotty. RNG is RNG brah..
  • 06-07-2013, 04:41 AM
    TPS1956
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jameson Darko View Post
    For the sake of the Community, I spent $50 on bits, and recieved a 108% bonus, ending up with approximately 10,400 bits.

    I bought

    14 x TIER 4 Lockboxes = 5,600 bits
    10 x TIER 3 Lockboxes = 2,400 bits
    20 x TIER 2 Lockboxes = 2,400 bits

    I recieved exactly 0 Orange weapons for $100.00. Thanks Trion.

    This transaction can be traced to my PSN Account: Knife_the_Planet

    I have been buying lock boxes with the keys I earn in game since beta and have yet to even see an orange anything and I'm not *****ing about it when it comes I will be happy but till then I spend 0 $ RL cash and play the game for keys sheesh gimme a break on these threads about lock boxes.
  • 06-07-2013, 04:59 AM
    Covington
    I used resources and not bits and got nothing (I had the same amount in my inventory as I did before I bought the purple teir box)...

    After a week waiting for customer support I finally got back "this is what you got" (I didn't) and pretty much "Tough shtako" So I haven't bothered to buy a box since.

    I would NEVER waste real money on the lock boxes - that is just asking for trouble and heartache. I am reserved to ever spend IN game free money after that... just cause of the we don't care attitude they dished.
  • 06-07-2013, 05:08 AM
    Mystic Maharaji
    Any way mate,
    we got your point, At least I did.
    Ignore MrClip is working 4 Trion ahaha. is that so bad?
    not so sure, but still you are right to complain.
    100$ and no orange? call them and see if they can arrange something for you.

    Later.
  • 06-07-2013, 05:13 AM
    NoahsArkfall
    I've bought several of all lock boxes now (with resources) and have 4 legendaries. 2 from T3 boxes and 2 from T2 boxes. I've never received one from a T4 and it is starting to be just about as rare for me to get purples. I've only gotten 1 or 2 purples in the past few weeks.
  • 06-07-2013, 05:17 AM
    IGears
    Random shtako is Random shtako... sorry dude. I wish i have better luck myself.... Ive spent a good deal of MS points in Mass Effect 3 packs and came up short a few times. The only difference is that ME3 at least tells you that there's going to be a least one Rare or Ultra-Rare item.

    but with that, is the risk of it becoming Pay to Win and im fine with what it is now.
  • 06-07-2013, 05:38 AM
    MaxSterling
    If I had a spare $50, I'd rather buy lottery tickets if you're just gonna throw it away anyways.
  • 06-07-2013, 05:41 AM
    Covington
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MaxSterling View Post
    If I had a spare $50, I'd rather buy lottery tickets if you're just gonna throw it away anyways.

    Keno man Keno - you are more likely to get something for sure!

    We really need proper gambling in this game... oh wait never mind.
  • 06-07-2013, 05:49 AM
    MaxSterling
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Covington View Post
    you are more likely to get something for sure!

    Sometimes I feel the odds are the same... but real money trumps imaginary in-game goods any day.
  • 06-07-2013, 06:21 AM
    mikeintheshell
    Dear Ark Hunter,

    We here at Trion strive to bring you the best possible game experience. We appreciate you playing Defiance and purchasing Defiance Store Bits. We ever look forward to seeing you in our forums and in-game.

    We have reviewed your ticket:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jameson Darko View Post
    For the sake of the Community, I spent $50 on bits, and recieved a 108% bonus, ending up with approximately 10,400 bits.

    I bought

    14 x TIER 4 Lockboxes = 5,600 bits
    10 x TIER 3 Lockboxes = 2,400 bits
    20 x TIER 2 Lockboxes = 2,400 bits

    I recieved exactly 0 Orange weapons for $100.00. Thanks Trion.

    This transaction can be traced to my PSN Account: Knife_the_Planet

    We here at Trion thank you for purchasing Bits but are saddened you were not satisfied with your purchases. Here is a breakdown of the rarity rates:

    Basic(white) - 90%
    Common(green) - 50%
    Uncommon(blue) - 20%
    Rare(purple) - 5%
    Legendary(oragne) - 1%
  • 06-07-2013, 06:26 AM
    JBoneFX
    I went through the same thing, I think lockboxes should be removed from the store completely. The random element for cash is called gambling and it's illegal...
  • 06-07-2013, 06:37 AM
    Reverend Blood
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JBoneFX View Post
    I went through the same thing, I think lockboxes should be removed from the store completely. The random element for cash is called gambling and it's illegal...

    http://i.imgur.com/WbBPeZf.jpg?1
  • 06-07-2013, 06:39 AM
    Youkai Risu
    I get plenty of oranges already , it's really not hard to pull them. Pulled 5 last week and traded 1 for 3 oranges at a ark fall too.
  • 06-07-2013, 06:50 AM
    Gilian85
    Lol!! I had about 15 orange from 125 - 150 tier 3.

    And don't focus too much about orange weapons, they aren't always better. Example; yesterday I recieved a orange auto shotgun damage 47x8.

    So a white with 89x12 does way more damage.
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