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So how did you all feel about the customization? Did you play with it? Did you notice all the pages you could go threw?
Some people missed the second page options on the top of the page to change hair, tattoos and others.
How was the race selection?
Would you like sliders?
Would you like to set yourself apart more?
Did you check the pursuits page to see all the unlockable outfits?
Would you like to custom build your outfits from unlocked parts?
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Originally Posted by Obsidian
I was fairly happy with the customization. Of course, I would like to see more hairstyles, and colors.. Make it funky, blonde, brunette and redhead is so boring and this is the future.. Lets see some streaks of color, pink blue or green. :-) The faces were a tad boring and I found it difficult to make anyone attractive. I tried all subsets of male/female.
It would be nice to clarify what the archetype does, because all I could tell was 3 choices of ugly to ugliest. For an alien race this was fine, human - disappointing! lol
It was a nice feature to see the unlockable outfits, most definitely. I'd love to see more tattoos and things to further make your character unique.
I believe what I am asking is what would would like more of, and a simple yes or no if they managed to find everything. Can't edit posts, and beta forums are not up and running.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ski843
For a stress test, not bad, some people complained they couldnt figure out the "how" because the tabs are up at the top of the screen, it doesnt directly cycle you choice to choice like other games.
I want the bald head option; because I shave my head and 2, chicks dig it.
Just honesty - a lot of the layout felt very 'console friendly', and thus a little clunky on PC which I find usually has much more streamlined and easy to use character creation in games.
As far as CC options go, for an early stress test - not bad at all!
If the game had launched with those options though I would honestly be disappointed. I generally like to make 'myself' in MMO's and there was no way that was happening in this CC.
I hope TRION takes a look at great CC in other MMO's like any of the games by Cryptic for example which really allow for decent customization but I feel like it may honestly not be that important to Trion. Especially if the game doesn't intend to be much more than a third person mmo shooter.
Character customization should be like in APB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHpMy60h3vc
So the characters could be unique
The character creator needs a lot of work. It's remarkably bad right now. Embarrassingly bad, actually.
Best CC I've ever played around with :) too bad the developers really dropped the ball on the rest of the game and wasted a LOT of money along the way, losing their game to another company.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathrow
In all honesty, I felt the character customization was mediocre at best. I had the same issues with the layout as others in regards to the tabbed sections -- since they don't auto-cycle you to the next feature, you get a little confused. But my main problem is the lack of customization options altogether.
Again we are left to deal with the standardized limited selection of presets that offer no real individuality when creating your character. It's 2013 and technology has given us the ability to create more unique avatars, yet Trion gives us a stale and generic customization feature that offers nothing of significance. In all honesty, there is no reason why we aren't given a range of sliders to create our characters with more substance. If SWG could do it years ago and APB can do it now, why can't Trion? Granted, it does make it easier for Trion to design textures and models against a finite set of customization features, but frankly I find that excuse overused in the industry today.
In simple terms, the feature is average. It is neither good nor bad, but is definitely unremarkable and not worth even promoting.
Well the other company woulda made the game much better by now if they wouldnt have gone greedy. :]Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon
Their character creation was not complete. They put in basic options just for the sake of stress test.
They did this in Rift beta, as the focuses were mainly on bugs and functionality in the beginning.
Once the real beta or beta gets further along, then you will be able to see their normal customization. There will definitely be more options, as Rift gives good variety for character creation as well.
Don't forget this event was only a stress test so all actual in-game stuff people played with can and probably will be changed and with the NDA you are really not supposed to talk about game elements. Plus this was only a stress test not a test of or even a critique of actual game elements.
It doesn't matter if it was a Stress Test or not. For me, if this is the way character customization is going to be structured, then I feel it is a waste of breath even talking about it. It doesn't matter if they add tens of options to each aspect -- The fact that Trion is still relying on finite selections and not a slider system, is disappointing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jen
This was used in the early days of MMOs , because of technical hurdles. But we have moved way beyond that and yet here we are in 2013 with a game still using preset, graphical options, because of the ease by which current and future graphical updates can be applied to models.
I think the graphics are nice, but if all they are going to do is stick the players with are preset conditions, then all they are doing is towing the line and sticking to what works. It is not worth even putting on the gamebox at this point.
Sliders are still only a finite amount of options. A to B and there's just a bunch if preset points(looks) set in the middle. It's no more than a good standard pick and choose from these options CC. Sliders aren't all that and 99% of the time you won't even be looking at your face.
I think it has to do with the fact that it is a multi-platform game and the customization is only going to be as good as its weakest system can handle. If we assume the "average" gaming computer has a 1 gig or more graphics card and at least 4 gigs of ram compare that to the ps3s 512MB card and 512MB of ram. I'm sure our computers can handle much more customization, but can a ps3 or xbox?
I have to admit that I didn't see the second page either. I thought it was a little too basic, but it was a stress test to me so it didn't really matter :3
Sliders may offer a finite amount of options, but its inherent structure allows for more customization option that presets. It can be as generic as Age of Conan or as robust as ABP. And in this day and age, Trion should be giving us what APB offers us now as opposed to what early MMOs offered us then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jehuty
Dont say yet, Rift's character and race customization is so 90s too. I absolutely hate how my face looks exactly like every other in Rift.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jen
But Im totally happy if theres plenty of other kind of customization.
In all reality I think the core reason why they used a finite list is this....YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A HUGE NUMBER OF PLAYERS ON SCREEN ! Have you seen some of the vids that show 75+ running twords a event? I really do think its a good choice unless you want blank head hiccups all over the place even with the current build.
I never had blank head issues even in stress test. So the engine seems very strong.
That said I think they need to bump up the customization... a lot. SWTOR suffered from what many called "limited" character creation. and it is true, I felt very quickly that the options were to few and farbetween, and as for mmo's in 2013 I believe it is very dated to give no advanced options.
APB is still the best character creator, STO has a solid one with tons of options, DCUO's gear customization is pretty great too. While the gameplay in these games is lacking their customization is key. Hell even the steam trailer for APB played off the customization as the main selling point to the game, and it has worked fairly well. We really need new levels of customization in games, the race list for defiance lore is massive... Trion should make use of it.
WTB APB, meets STO, meets DCUO character and gear customization meets Mass Effect 4's new engine meets open world gameplay and mmo level of defiance. *cough* *druels* ...
Well said sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obsidian
Character customization is a important aspect off a MMO games, there are really allot of gamer's like me who like to customize character to every tiny detail because it makes your character feel unique, I don't like to put facial tattoos to be unique.
Thing what i really would enjoy that i can make, Me inside of a game! We are so different! In games we are unique with our personality's not with our looks ( there are 100+ clones who looks the same )
I'd have to agree with Obsidian. The character customization was nice, more than some games, but not as much as it could or possibly should provide. I remember swtor promised countless customization options and endless blah blah blah - but upon getting in for Beta, I was thoroughly disappointed as were most people. Taking APB's style and approach would be the best option, though I am unsure if that is something they're willing, or able, to do at this point in time.
Plus, it's just so awkward when you show up to a co-op event or PvP battlefield only to find someone else is wearing the same avatar. Then someone has to go home and change, and that's a big hassle... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by deadextrem