Infectors still havent been nerf'd

please take out pvp, just so the east coast can actually get on the game and play it..

last time i checked this game was sold to us as a MMORPG,
no where did it say anything about MMOPVP we bi!tch and get weps nerf'd,

know ppl who love pvp in defiance dont care, but i spent 140k ark salvage just to get my clip slot open on my munizer, took me 2 weeks just to get the +! burst clip from a vender for it, didnt even get the wep untill ego 2613,

thats alot of time, effort and resources you want me to just let go of or call a loss, just so ppl can play the pvp aspect of this game,, made this weapon so i could use it in pve and level up my infectors to 20, and with this wep it is going faster then it would with any of the others.

why is this game getting nerf'd for its pvp aspects?
when it was sold and advertised as a MMORPG?
why cant you just play bf3 or cod when you want to pvp?
oh that's right, everyone complained about the weps in them games to, like the us12 gauge and the Famas in bf3..

i just dont get it, you gotta be really bored with this game to be on pvp so much that you have 15 pages of this sht here, and to have already nerf'd weps like northstars and shottys, why do you want every wep nerf'd just for pvp?

its not fair to the rest of the ppl who enjoy the pve aspect of this game and its no right, to show favortism towards pvp players, cause thats what they have done, shotguns dont need less rof or clip size or dmge reduction, tried doing a siege lately with these so called OP shottys or infectors? yea maybe if your skill lvl is 20 they rock, but not at 10.

next you will want the lmgs nerf'd, then det's, then ar's, please if your this bored of the only MMORPG we have on consoles, just put it down and go back to COD2 and let us who bought this game as a MMORPG, be able to play this game, theres a ton of pvp, fps games,

STOP TRYING TO MAKE THIS GAME THEM, and i dont get it either way, why is dieing to someone such a big deal in a game?
ever heard of the saying, if you cant beat em join em?

if you would just use blur and intimidation you could still pwn these infectors and these shottys, oh but thats right, you will prob want that nerf'd to,

its really lame to adjust this game for any of its pvp aspects when the east coast of US is still having issues just joining the game, right now, today..

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Originally Posted by Blu

please take out pvp, just so the east coast can actually get on the game and play it..

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the f*** are you talking about....

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Originally Posted by Blu

last time i checked this game was sold to us as a MMORPG

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no it wasn't.

honestly i stopped reading there because i got this strange feeling the rest of the post would have been as awesome as the first few lines.

If Trion nerfs my Immunizer (I've had it since before it was cool), I'll just kill you all with something else.

I've been using my VBI SMG in place of my Immunizer lately, and it's been treating me pretty well anyway. Quit your whining.

If I get a vote, though, don't nerf it. The whiners are just a vocal minority.

If Trion nerfs infectors I will do the same to you all as Iron Stormforge stated. All my guns are at 20 so switching to another weapon is not such of a problem. If you want a tip on how to fight people with infectors; use your surrounding cover wisely.

I don't really get the whole "ruining the whole PvE experience" should the Devs balance an overpowered weapon. Is PvE so hard? Will balancing a weapon that auto-aims from hip, homes, inflicts a DoT then does huge burst damage, and THEN spawns bugs that continue to hit (HARD) gonna break it....? Really?? And lets not forget its extended range and full auto (with burst mod) capabilty.

You can beat any mission, with any loadout, any time... no problem. The PvE aspect is - in my opinion - fun to play, but it is not super difficult.

Balancing a fairly absurd weapon (just read the first paragraph and think about it with an open mind) is not going to "break PvE". Its not even going to impact it, if the Devs tweak properly. Hell, they could give all ark hunters "an intrinsically boosted immune system" (or something) which cuts infector damage (the burst in particular) by a high amount, and boom, problem solved. Some people will still use infectors in PvP (I bet they'd STILL be good), but by and large it would promote diversity which last time I checked, is a good thing in a persistent game world.

It was indeed advertised as an MMOTPS not RPG ( that was directed at Blu), but other than that he was right. No one bought this game solely for pvp, and if you did that's your prerogative, but shows that you had no idea what you picked up upon purchase. The PVP on this game is sub par at best. Lag is terrible, glitches are terrible, over all map variety is terrible.

This game did not build its focus around PVP as it is not COD, Halo, BF3, Killzone, Ghost Recon, Army of Two, Gears of War or any other FPS/TPS shooter out there. It's funny watching people debate over such a shallow aspect of this game, if this is the only game some of you own to enjoy a pvp experience, I am truly sorry for you as you are missing out on much, much more enjoyable games for that feature.

I do play pvp every once in a while on here, and yeah infectors are annoying, but that's just it they are annoying. Everyonce in a while I pull out my orange invader out of shear frustration, but still can be put down pretty easily if I'm not aware of my surroundings, just like any other person using an infector.

Bottom line this game doesn't need any more nerfs, the PVE is still broken, things that have been wrong since the beginning are still not fixed, and if Defiance looses its PVP fan base because it wont nerf a gun, then so long to all 10 of you, and hope you can find happiness in other games elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Lupis Volk

yes. all i can think off is different sets of stats for PvE and PvP. apart from that i've got nothing.

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That would just confuse new people later on, better to have different weapons altogether and then restrict their access to pvp/pve only. Its a tough call, different stats would be the easiest to implement (or less work) but may just cause confusion later... unless pvp dies and we can just ignore it.

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Originally Posted by duction

as old as the stupid amount of people using this over power'd gun

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IDK what you're talking about. I don't have any problems dealing with the immunizer guys in shadow wars or Freight Yard.

Just because you're not smart/skilled enough to figure out how to kill these guys doesnt mean that the weapon needs to be nerfed.

Each gun has its strengths as weaknesses. The Immunizer's strength is its range, but thats it. Its not too particularly powerful and cover disrupts its use well enough and lures its users into an unsafe area for its use because it cannnot out-dps anything.

Use your head for heaven's sake.

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Originally Posted by Dist0rt3d Hum0r

IDK what you're talking about. I don't have any problems dealing with the immunizer guys in shadow wars or Freight Yard.

Just because you're not smart/skilled enough to figure out how to kill these guys doesnt mean that the weapon needs to be nerfed.

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harsh but true.

pretty much any AR/SMG/LMG with syphon and enough skill to put most bullets on target will kill an inefctor user every time.

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Originally Posted by Dist0rt3d Hum0r

IDK what you're talking about. I don't have any problems dealing with the immunizer guys in shadow wars or Freight Yard.

Just because you're not smart/skilled enough to figure out how to kill these guys doesnt mean that the weapon needs to be nerfed.

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and what would you do out in the open when someone is spamming you... no no... 3 people are spamming you with infectors that you cannot even miss with or roll away from lol.


bring on the Nerf


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