Infectors still havent been nerf'd

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Originally Posted by Nefarious

Yeah everyone just get better!

Just use the gun that auto aims and homes in on the target just like everyone else!

Problem solved!

lol at ****ing stupid jerk offs saying "just get better" der der der! Yeah get better at using the Auto Aim Bot Gun lmfao.

You don't grasp the concept that its not about getting better as much as it is everyone using one ****ing gun. It takes away from the over all experience that is Defiance PvP because one gun out does all the other guns and because of that everyone uses it, and because of everyone using the same exact thing it makes for super repetitive matches. Defiance PvP has a lot more to offer then what is being seen but doesint get the chance because of this crap.

And for ppl saying "get better" or QQ...you are the ones who should get better and quit QQ'ing at the fact that ppl are pointing out the obvious sore thumb known as Infectors which has basically made PvP utterly lame and boring. Ppl point these things out because they want game play with a better over all spread of things other then just a couple. And if you cant recognizes this simple concept then you ppl are everything that's wrong with Defiance.

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I personally almost never get killed by immunizer user. In fact, my death ratio by immunizer must be around 1/20.
Now if you run around with a weak short range shot gun, then immunizer will get you..

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Originally Posted by Adrena Chrome

One would hope. I am a solid 3-1 shooter player. I just turn and run from infestors... Here's why they are OP.. The server has to recognize the fire rate of any weapon. We all know there is lag. Bullet recognition is hit or miss. If you do the math an average pvp player should die in 10-15 saw bullets. Anyone every kill a moving target in 15 bullets?? no not likely unless they are running straight at you not shooting. Even if your bullets are on target the computer does not give you full credit for every bullet. Unlike the infector with homing needles and constant bug damage with bugs that do solid damage and don't miss. Four infector bugs and your are dead. Computer will give them thier bugs before your bullets everytime. All I want is a clear line of sight to be able to fight back. the puss blobs piss me off to no end..

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Not so chrome. I've watched those infector bugs miss quite often. They're simply not fast enough to catch a sprinting character. On top of that if said player also cloaks then the bugs are super confused and just sit there.

Also, I used to defend points from a distance with a fire SAW and decoy. Worked like a charm, so if you can't hit running players that's your own fault, not the computer's.

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Originally Posted by duction

i rank 1st or 2nd every pvp match so i know its not me,

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THEN WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT????

Stats are not tracked and you get first or second. There's NOTHING to complain about then.

My God you people are idiots. Just because you get a few deaths at the hands of a gun that you can't outsmart you think it needs a nerf.

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Originally Posted by HilariousT

I don't really get the whole "ruining the whole PvE experience" should the Devs balance an overpowered weapon. Is PvE so hard? Will balancing a weapon that auto-aims from hip, homes, inflicts a DoT then does huge burst damage, and THEN spawns bugs that continue to hit (HARD) gonna break it....? Really?? And lets not forget its extended range and full auto (with burst mod) capabilty.

You can beat any mission, with any loadout, any time... no problem. The PvE aspect is - in my opinion - fun to play, but it is not super difficult.

Balancing a fairly absurd weapon (just read the first paragraph and think about it with an open mind) is not going to "break PvE". Its not even going to impact it, if the Devs tweak properly. Hell, they could give all ark hunters "an intrinsically boosted immune system" (or something) which cuts infector damage (the burst in particular) by a high amount, and boom, problem solved. Some people will still use infectors in PvP (I bet they'd STILL be good), but by and large it would promote diversity which last time I checked, is a good thing in a persistent game world.

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most of the ppl who are arguing against nerfing immunizers use them regularly for pvp. theyll get nerfed simply because everyone uses them. personally i think the solution is making the reticule significantly smaller, essentially to the size of a pin and theyll further decrease jump distance of the bugs

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Originally Posted by kasaitenma

theyll get nerfed simply because everyone uses them.

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Originally Posted by Myll_Erik

Howdy

I'm passing this on again - but bear in mind we look at both the community perspective and raw data to help tweak and tune things.

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derp derp derp

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Originally Posted by Dist0rt3d Hum0r

THEN WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT????

Stats are not tracked and you get first or second. There's NOTHING to complain about then.

My God you people are idiots. Just because you get a few deaths at the hands of a gun that you can't outsmart you think it needs a nerf.

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Who the hell are you to dictate what people should complain about? I'm pretty sure he paid for his copy so that gives him the right to voice his concern over any damn thing he deems fit. You really gonna call him an idiot for voicing his opinion over a product he paid for? I swear, as this game nosedives further into disaster, you fantards get extremely worse.

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Originally Posted by greatdividers

derp derp derp

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I just looked at your loadout. I think I've killed you once or twice on Freight Yard. xD

Guess what though OP, it wasnt with an immunizer. :O

How about if you don't like the game, you buy a new one and stop ruining it for those of us who think; it is what it is: an amazing first effort at a cross platform mmo with constantly updated playable content.

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Originally Posted by JonDav

Who the hell are you to dictate what people should complain about? I'm pretty sure he paid for his copy so that gives him the right to voice his concern over any damn thing he deems fit. You really gonna call him an idiot for voicing his opinion over a product he paid for? I swear, as this game nosedives further into disaster, you fantards get extremely worse.

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He can complain all he wants. And yes, he is an idiot if he really does place 1st or 2nd every game, yet still complains about immunizers in a game where PvP stats are not tracked. Plenty of other players here have not had problems with it and neither do I. OP sounds like a self-entitled brat that wants an easy PvP experience.

I'll dictate my opinion on his opinion all I want. This is the internet after all.

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