since trion seems to mess up EVERTHING! and now the dlc wont drop until late july do you regret buying the season pass?
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since trion seems to mess up EVERTHING! and now the dlc wont drop until late july do you regret buying the season pass?
As I've said time, and time again. It's too early to tell. I bought it, and I'll live with that. When all 5 are out, I'll look back and decide if I regret paying for a couple of them.
More likely, I won't be playing this game in a week or so, and log in in a year, and be like "This stuff would have been cool at launch"
No. I cant regret buying it until i have tried what i paid for. I bought it knowing the bugs and problems the game has and have faith that they will work on them until fixed. Anyone who has bought the season pass in advance like with all games know they are gambling buying things advance.
No, I only paid like $5 for it. Had I paid full price, it'd be a bit more miffed in regards to pushing it back to late July and most likely pushing it back again.
At this time i donīt regret my decision that i have not bought the season pass ;), i look forward to July though.
If they even deliver the content they have promised on the first DLC, then nope.. not one bit. The late July date doesn't even bother me to be honest. I mean its 4 months from launch. Sounds fair enough to me.
Im not one of the forum whiners who wanted the DLC the moment they bough the season pass, so no. I do not regret buying it and once I have a castithan character stabbing people in PvP with my charge blade I'll regret it even less lol
Define "EVERTHING" (yup, you were so busy with stupid caps lock, you lost letters all over the place).Quote:
Originally Posted by doubleshot27
And yep, i bought the season pass and i have no regret, because all the DLC will come out eventually, it's not that i will not see them.
Come on, as a fellow season pass holder, can you ever say, with certainty that you'll see it for sure? We knew what we were getting in to. Right there in the EULA it screamed that if they don't release all 5 we're just boned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valanga
people complain in most games if DLC comes out too fast because it's "obviously stuff that was held back from the base game" this is the only place I've ever been to where people are complaining because the DLC is taking time to come out be it is actually being made....
Except it's not taking time to be made, it's held back to fix bugs. It's already done. We should've gotten it shortly after the last client side patch, but we haven't. That's why people are complaining and that complaint is justified. Unless you're saying they lied about why it hasn't been out yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Caswallawn
100 Percent Yes...
Infector PvP, It was bad before but now everyone uses them. I hardly find my self logging in. It's just??? Yeah,
Meh, I only regret buying the UE version... i mean, at least the bag and bits were cool...
Late July is too far away and yes I do blame them for not having it out before the end of June. If I could I'd get a refund. All I can do is refuse to buy anything from their store for now on. It's not like me not showing up in their servers is ginna make a difference but keeping my money from them least in part will.
Can you say for sure you will not?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarBat
I bought the season pass, the game is far from dead or empty, and i've been into MMO for enough time to don't be worried about the game shutting down after 2000 whining thread on the forum.
Regret...... a little.
End of July for the DLC....... WTF........
Really Trion? I mean Really?
Ok.... alot of regret now, but I will probably get over it.
To those moaning, yet again, about something else (No surprises there). Do you ones have any ounce of patience at all? July isn't that far away, a couple of weeks and there you have it. Oh, but of course someone no doubt is going to pull the 'they'll screw it up and we won't get it for longer' card right? So what?
Tell me this, would you rather have more additions to the game that conflicts with the already existing game and then creates more problems or would you prefer to have a version that has at least been tested out? I have no doubt whatsoever that there's going to be some unanticipated issues even after it has been released. Honestly, you all complain about bugs and such but when Trion focus on reducing them you complain just as much; is there any pleasing you lot?
Next, when it does comes out, you'll be the ones back crying a week or two later because you have nothing else to do because you rushed through it all and didn't take your time.
Do I regret buying it? No, fortunately, I actually have patience.
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Originally Posted by Dave Blackwell
Yes I do have patience.... but it's not infinite.
My complaining tends to be a gut reaction.
If Trion is testing it and making sure it's all nice and stuff.... ok I can wait patiently until the end of July.
However.... with their track record..... Ok....
If I were not still having so much with the game I might regret it.
alot of mixed opinions good to know what ppl are thinking, but in my opinion this game will be dead by nov.........
Yes. I regret buying it.....So soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubleshot27
It was foolish and should have waited until the content came out to decide if I wanted it. I blindly bought in the "falling in love" phase with this game and now that the "honeymoon phase" is over, I need something to spice up the relationship so-to-speark. I thought the DLC would have hit sooner like in maybe one more week and I was really pumped for 1 on 1 and 2 or 2 arena stuff. I'll just have to be patient because I know it's going to be awesome.
I will just be mooching the free Fable 3, Assassin's creed 2, Halo 3, etc... downloads until the DLC hits. I want to hit EGO 2000 first though. I'm at 1950 and the last 50 are painfully so going.
This question will be easier to answer when the DLC comes out. If they manage to improve the game and make it fun then no I wouldn't. I already figured this would be one of the last current gen games I buy and most of the great games like Destiny won't be out till probably mid to end of 2014 so if this fills in the gap before then I would rather spend on something I know is pretty addicting even though it's been mostly drive from one Arkfall to another and wait for a Siege to start lately.
Oh well, the last whining oracle said this game would be dead by august... Good to see you're more optimistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubleshot27
100% yes. I could have put that money towards another game instead of having it tied up until "mid July". I usually go ahead and buy the season pass for games I feel strongly about at checkout. After Gears of War: Judgement and now this, I will now do what a smart consumer should do, and pass until I see if it's a good investment.
I am patiently waiting for the DLC to drop before I say I regret it.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubleshot27
I am anticipating some (lots of) server downtime. Quite possibly new/more bugs.
With that being expected Im actually going to grade it on the content we get not the application of/support of as the season pass is paying for that additional content.
Im pretty sure your season pass money has already been blown on overtime fixing bugs. Im not sure how theyre going to pay programmers to actually finish the dlc. Borderlands 2 did it right. They shopped out the first 3 DLCs so that players still got new content regardless of any snafu's that may have come up.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagellanD
If Defiance can't live up to the DLC promises they have set with it then we have a legal problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by hagndaz
I do recognize the fact that they promised 5 DLCs for the price of 4. They never have given a date for ANY of these DLCS. I could get shafted as DLC2 is some minor tweaks and additions compared to the first but it's still technically a DLC.
It really doesn't matter how the company has spent the money they have received thus far. They promised 5 DLCs for the price of 4. They have to meet that obligation only. No matter what the size of each is.
With that in mid I still have to wait to see if I regret it.
Ask The Magic 8 Ball!
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And this is where it gets tricky and where Trion has people bent over the barrel.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagellanD
What is DLC? What constitutes DLC? What would a judge/arbitrator think 'reasonable' DLC is?
So Trion promised and is legally bound to give you five DLCs.
DLC #1: "Hey guys! Here is a new area, new cars, 8 new mobs, new dungeon, cash shop items, enjoy!"
DLC #2: "Hey guys! Here is some new cars skins (over the old cars), 5 new mobs, cash shop items, enjoy!"
DLC #3: "Hey guys! Here is some new reskins again, 3 new mobs, one 'adventure' event, and some more cash shop items, enjoy!"
DLC#4-5: "Hey guys! Game is now F2P, grats! Here is some new reskins, a 'Nightmare' dungeon (rehash of launch dungeon), some more cash shop items, enjoy!"
Contract met.
It doesn't spell out WHAT is in the DLC, just that they have to provide you with DLC. That's why blind DLC buying is weetodded, unlike Lifetime subs, where as long as you play you get it all free, no matter what it is and how long they keep the game going.
It could be similar to that or alot less. Hell, if your Blizzard 15 dollars worth of DLC is a mystical space pegasus mount.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fancypants
I suspect that by now Trion, or at least some people at Trion, regrets selling the season passes. Had I bought one I'd be sorely tempted to ask Steam for a refund on general principles. Promising delivery and failing to deliver deserves some penalty, or at least Trion should be promising more for those season pass holders willing to wait.
But it's not a lot of money, and if is a lot to someone then my suggestion is that they shouldn't be using their meager funds to purchase something like that in the first place. But that doesn't excuse Trion for failing to live up to their own hype.
Too soon to tell if I'll regret it or not, but I got it through the Steam offer anyways so I didn't have to pay full price. I'll reserve any judgement until the DLCs actually release. While I'm a bit disappointed that it will take until the end of July to see the first one when they've been teasing us with info for a while now, I can be patient, especially if they can manage to eliminate most of the bugs.
One of my biggest concerns about the Season Pass is that DLCs after this one might be rushed to make the year deadline, and as a result they get reduced features or are reduced to weapons or item packs with no new content. Still, that all remains to be seen.
The game is already free to play. Paying an initial cost for the software still makes it free to play. Ive played a lot of DC Universe, and while the software is free, it is impossible to make any meaningful progress without paying the subscription fee or spending a lot of cash in microtransactions. Buying bits in Defiance only gives you vanity and connivence items. Other than boosts, you can spend $0 and progress as much as someone who has spent $100. Now that Ive sounded like a satisfied costumer, Id like to say that if they screw me out of meaningful content, I will do whatever I can to seek reparations. Well, whatever I can with a reasonable effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fancypants
Not true. This game isn't Free to Play. It's Buy to Play. If you don't buy the box, you cannot play, so where does the 'free' come into that equation?Quote:
Originally Posted by hagndaz
You may not have been doing it right, but DC as a free player is hardly restrictive. Case in point:
You get ALL the starting costumes to chose from. All the starting powers to pick from. All the storylines on both sides; heroes and villians. There is no part of the leveling process that is restricted.. all cutscences, voice acting, everything. Everything can be gotten off the Auction house there anyways. Joining a guild gets you even more stuff as a F2P. It's okay if you didn't like it, but you're so far offbase here it's not funny.
Defiance doesn't give you everything. You had to pay $60 at launch. That means you.. ready?.. PAID for it. There was no 'free' option. Now, most of us (probably 80%) finished this game in that first month. The rest are mostly done, just didn't cap EGO which isn't content; that's called 'grinding'.
Now you don't ever have to pay another nickel to play this game after that $60. But you certainly aren't going to get all the same good stuff the DLC people get so you do have to pay more money regardless.
I'm sorry, but leveling up different weapons doesn't really equate to content when what you're doing to level them up is the exact same thing environment-wise.
Nope I am happy with my Pass.
I regret it only in that I'm not sure I'll still be playing this game come, say, DLC #3 or so. It's not the robust game I thought it would be, but some of that is my own fault for assuming what it would be rather than accepting what it actually is. To be honest, I'm not really even looking forward to the DLC in July. I REALLY wanted to see a new outdoor area. I do enjoy playing Defiance (except when I get booted at the end of an Arkfall or Siege like last night). And I appreciate the level of detail the environment has. But you can only drive down the same road so many times before longing for a new journey. Maybe I missed something about a new area. Maybe they haven't announced it yet. But with the way Trion is going as far as timelines go, I think the DLCs will easily push into next year and by that time there are a multitude of new MMOFPS that will be coming out that look to push the boundary on realism. That's what Moya and me think about it, anyway.
That's the exact point I was making.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fancypants
Until it comes out or we're shafted on DLC2 (As the content in DLC1 seems adequate) then I most certainly will regrest supporting a company that would do that and calling it "DLC" content.
What I am truly waiting for it Trion to give us the Rim Swirly of giving us access to the Casthian but charging us to take advantage of it on our current characters. It will force a restart and re-roll to play all the crap content again in order to get a "free" Casthian.
I will be livid and be done with them and the game on principle alone.
No. I have enough patience to wait. Otherwise, I am indeed enjoying the game.
You are wrong. Getting to lvl 30 is free. Almost all end game content requires purchasing individual dlc. Things in the auction house cost in the $200,000+ range. If you do not pay the subscription fee, you can only carry $2000 cash at once. No lvl 30 item is that cheap. You also have to purchase replay tickets to redo end game missions. Even with the subscription fee, you are only allotted 250 replay tickets, which isnt much at all. If you quit paying the subscription fee, it reverts back to the free content and all dlc items and forfeited. Also, without the subscription fee you are limited to 2 characters and have access to only 4 of the 8 powers. All basic costumes items are available at character creation, but the meaningful gear and best styles require dlc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fancypants
I realize their billing and access models have changed a lot over the games lifetime, but that is the current state of the game. I stopped playing when Defiance came out, but from roughly February to April, that was the model they were using.
Not really, I enjoy the game and don't have to worry about a monthly subscription. I just hope the later DLC's aren't rushed and half a**ed due to running out of time due to the next season starting. They aren't leaving themselves a whole lot of time. I got it with my Steam pre-order the day before launch, so I think I only paid like $20. I can spend that in one night at a bar pretty easy, the game will bring me many more hours of enjoyment and entertainment.