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I've found some higher EGO weapons with slightly better stats. One I found is a sniper rifle and it even says it has +5 Mag size, and on a critical hit it restores 30% of your EGO power.
I'd assume as your EGO increases weapons will have more bonuses like these.
Just a note, but I have two grenade launchers with the EXACT same stats. The difference? One is a blue rarity for ego rating 150, the other a green for 300. So I think guns get better, but rarity also figures into it.
Have yet to find anything that compares to my 190 blue carbine, but... *shrugs*
@pic above - I was beginning to wonder what the point of colors were on weapons with base stats being so marginalized. I can see now its all about the extra effects that are possible.
After wasting 4000 bits between ego levels 100 and 300 in the ps3 beta I was really
disapointed with the lack of difference/power in relation to ego levels.
Im assuming now that if I want to buy a lockbox in the live version its best to wait until certain ego levelthresholds or I will be wasting real $ or time based resources..
Why use a box? Oh because they put an XP bar on your gun and you cant get better at it till you buy/find the same one with the same marginalized stats.
This is a trap for players. At least put Gun Type experience where it belongs. On the player.
Better upgrade slots, better upgrades, better base effects.
you also have to keep in mind that yo uare ego level 300..out of 5000. that's five thousand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiv_Solo
one should not expect massive changes at only 300
Base damage on a SAW (or any weapon for that matter) will be relatively similar to that of even a purple or orange of the same type. From White to Orange, the weapons BUILD on the previous tier by adding something.
When you get to green, the weapons add Nano-Effects and there are mod slots.
When you get to blue, the weapons add an extra stat (+Clip Size for example) AND you can add additional modification slots to it.
When you get to purples and oranges you start to add synergies, have more inherit mod slots and extra stats. These uber weapons might still have the same BASE dmg stats as a lvl 10 white, but will do significantly more damage/trigger more procs/perks/etc...
I honestly don't have enough experience to say definitively what more you get in oranges, but my information is accurate as far as I have tested for White>Green>Blue>Purple.
As far as Ego Lvl, there is no difference, that I have been able to see in a "stock" ego lvl 20 greens vs lvl 200 greens except that whites and greens become less prevalent as you advance in level.
because that's ego 20 to 200. out of 5000 totalQuote:
Originally Posted by Caeb
that's like level 1 to..what...3?...in a 50 level scaled game.
Also...if items will have a class specific benefit, by which means can a player ensure they will get that specific bonus?
For instance: I buy a lockbox and get a purple AR with same stats as my green I got from the first quest I ever did...BUT...its got 5% less damage while reloading...BUT...its for another class and now Im sad.
See the problem here?
I know drops are player specific...but does that take in account for my class as well?
Im trying to understand the incentive mechanics here. Any insight or dev statements appreciated. Thanks
this will prob be different in final product.
there is a player weap exp stat. its in stats, you have to scroll down to see it. there is players exp/skill with a weap and weapon exp on the weapon itself. the forums posts say you dont gain more skill lvls when you cap a weapons exp and have to change weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiv_Solo
not 100% on anything posted in here myself. i would like game based info sheet. like what they mean by certain mods and nano effects. like what are they, what do they work best against etc. players shouldnt have to surf a wiki or the forums to know what a symbol on their weapon is and what it does exactly.
also perhaps the damage numbers didnt scaled for the beta. since they wanted pvp to be tested maybe they didnt want imbalance during a testing phase.
i dont use detonators. my skill was level 1 (ie never levelled up) when i posted that pic. i only use lmg's, snipers, bmg's and infectorsQuote:
Originally Posted by Zraxus
just an FYI
Couple things:
A weapons xp bar isnt for the weapon skill - its for the weapon only. Once you max it out you get an (random I think) additional bonus on the weapon, for instance I got "+5% damage from behind". Once the weapon is maxed out you now have a strong weapon to use when you need it - albeit one that no longer gives xp to your actual weapon skill.
This is to encourage using and upgrading new weapons. Its actually rather cool because that gun you worked so hard to upgrade when at a low EGO level will still be viable later in the game.
I chose a number of weapons I liked and worked toward upgrading and modding them to full capacity - just to have them on a loadout I could switch to when I needed the extra bump in stats.
Synergies - according to the ingame help page - arent tied to a players origin, as I first thought - the wording is misleading. Instead they act as 'set' items - if an item says '(2) Outlaw' then when you have two Outlaw items equipped you will get those bonuses.
Just to repeat some posts, EGO level might not actually determine how good the gun is BUT that EGO level is still required for player to have (or more).
Let's think it this way. There might be specific guns (or shields, granades) in some end-game content. To access this content, let's say like co-op instance, you have to be EGO rating of 1000 or higher. This instance will give same guns as you would get from other places BUT also specific stuff for just that instance (or other around same level). The difference could be skin for example.
Now that you got the sweet gun from that instance. If there was no EGO level on it, you could just go and trade to someone with EGO rating of 124...
So maybe the EGO ratings only job on guns and gear is to make sure it can't be traded for someone who have just started.
Atleast I hope it's somewhat this way (if my EGO is like 2500 I could have something that requires high EGO ratings (and new players who inspect could be like "Whoa, where did you get that?"))