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thank you guys for taking the time to answer my question.
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i highly doubt it. if you get reported 100 times they'll probably look into it and maybe even monitor you, but as long as your not cheating you shouldn't worryQuote:
Originally Posted by badhabit
If you get messages like "say good by to your account you got reported, cheater" you can always reply "good by". You can get reported as much as they like - if you don't cheat you don't really have to care.
I really hope that Trion has much better ways to identify hackers and cheaters than just rely on reports.Quote:
Originally Posted by badhabit
I think Defiance currently has problems with lag. I got killed through walls, some players take insane amounts of bullets without dying - this could be cheating, but I guess it's just lag.
Some of fights against you looked suspicious to me, but I never report someone. I think it's Trions job to identify cheaters. I don't want to imply that you are a cheater, but I understand why some might get that impression. I think it's the combination of lag, good gear and skill that can result in the impression that someone is cheating.
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lol Badhabit reported for cheating... Never thought PvP level would be so low, now...
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I tend to get reported as I rarely make it out of spawn! I am so bad at PvP I can only applogize in advance. My xbox bio even comes with a warning!
I wouldn't worry about it haters are going to hate.
I got reported once by someone who claimed I was "griefing", which from context I assume means ruining people's attempts to get XP etc., because of a glitch (possibly with my keyboard) that had me driving in circles. Big macho talk but I did not worry in the slightest.
Trion's statment was
"We love to watch".
GMs can log into your account, manipulate it and see over your shoulder.
(Admin did that for me when I lost weapon due to bugs)
Guess they use the same feature to check if you're hacking.
So in case you don't hack you should be alright.
This is a rhetorical question. No need to answer.
Do you cheat?
If yes, then the answer to your question is yes
If no, then the answer to your question is no
Edit: Do people get a game message informing them they got reported? I would not tell the person I reported them. The smart cheater might stop for a bit in case a CSR watches them. Keep quiet so they keep cheating. Report. Pray CSR checks while cheating is in progress.
personally i dont see why you would get reported, just another immunizer/shootgun noob
No. Xbox does nothing, your rep might suffer. I was #1 in the world leaderboards for a certain xbox 360 game for almost a year
and the amount of complaints and hacker calls was phenomenal. At one point had 100% avoidance rate on my rep, awesome. I
stopped playing game 2 years ago because of it and still was getting nasty messages from gamers who could not reach my score
even though i was not playing at all.I don't hack, wouldn't even know how to begin, never cheated but nowadays people are so
stuck up that if you truly are a good gamer and demolish them then you must be a hacker or cheater because they cant face the
fact that they suck. Don't worry about it just keep kicking hater,whiner,noob butt.
Quote: 'No. Xbox does nothing, your rep might suffer. I was #1 in the world leaderboards for a certain xbox 360 game for almost a year
and the amount of complaints and hacker calls was phenomenal. At one point had 100% avoidance rate on my rep, awesome.'
Im a PS3-player and am wondering, although a lil off topic: Do other players get to affect your rep, giving you an 'avoidance rate'? OMFG, what kinda sukky sukky system is that! That would never allow you to be good at anything, cause jealousy and stupidness is standard build in mankind lol.
yea sammael, of course im a noob for using the most effecitve pvp loadout currently in the game.
if you done whining like a little girl for the second or third time, open a thread or something and tell all people how much you hate me.
if that doesnt satisfy you you could still face the truth, as long as theyre that strong there will be alot of "infector/shotgun noobs" and flaming players wont change that. why dont you whine to trion for a change ? that would at least make some sense.
WTF is a "shootgun" I have yet to encounter such weaponry XDQuote:
Originally Posted by sammael
Devilst*** send me a private message a month ago, saying that he reported me because I cheat. I sent him a /reply, saying that I reported him for doing fake report.
He politely said that he did not report me, and was begging for me not to report his action. Was funny ;)
If the loadout is so strong, maby you should do better then you do, the reason ppl use infectors is coz they suck with any other weapon that take some aimingQuote:
Originally Posted by badhabit
that is the only advantage infectors give you. a little comparision:
infector cons compared to ARs:
-ALOT less range
-assault rifles doing tons more damage
-nano effects
-mods working(infector just has 2 mod slots who makes it any better)
infector pros compared to AR´s:
easy aim, what gives new or players with lack of aim the possibility to have still fun in pvp
you can bunnyhop up to 48m (only rank15 weapon skill) range without loosing aim
and sammael, i can understand that its annoying you get killed by infectors over and over again, but seriously, take it like a man !
ps: vbi assaultrifle+votfragger- 6 caps 32-2 stats in freightyard, for all the flamers out there who cant stop whining and saying all my skill comes from infectors.
haha fun story, at first i hated the flamers, since a week i start to enjoy the stupid things they say :DQuote:
Originally Posted by xoxid
Specially when your glitch vot fragger have 100% nano proc, i got 4 caps and 28-0 with sniper and saw, so what, ppl who think they are good when theyre running around with an immunizer, ohh yea some real skills thereQuote:
Originally Posted by badhabit
glitched vot fragger with 100% nano procc ? rofl
+5% from weapon skill and +6% chance skilled, also it has canonneer synergy(9% firerate) what increses the speed of the shots, shooting around 4 bullets a second with ~25% nano effect chance per shot. hell yea thats a glitch.
there is no point in discussing with you, you obviously dont have a problem with infectors or shotguns, you have a problem with me. are you jealous or cant u stand that im ruining your precious stats ? man up
It's a bit I read, I am speaking now.
Badhabit666 is a great player if it were not for the fact that it uses a weapon OP, trion permits then that's okay, you have to accept it.
We must also accept that in close combat is very strong, if he uses a weapon glitched or not Glitched I do not care, we must always find a way to be stronger than those who kill us, the solution is not to complain but to fight.
I know that Badhabit666 trembles when he sees me around for fear that it will oneshotting and tries to kill me first, as half of the players in PVP. I am happy that there are people with whom compete at the highest levels.
I use a perm cloaks, I can be invisible 4 minutes with the right perk.
In conclusion I just say that just need to take advantage of all that the game offers, whether it is a weapon or a power. There will always be people who complain but it's part of our community.
I've never used it and I will never use a infector for personal principle.
JoTheShow
thats exactly the way i see it too, trion allows it, so you have to deal with it.
its kind of a vicious circle... one gets ***** by a immunizer and they start playing it too, thats the way how i started playing it when i was new to the game.
but after all immunizers are nice weapons for pvp, nobody except trion can change that. be happy if you kill guys with it, take it like a man if you get killed by one. flaming does not help or change anything, except your own reputation.
ps: without players like jotheshow, shakk, atom, subx, kawal and zepe the EU pvp would only be scrubfarming. finally give the hacker and immunizer flames a rest and get better.
TRION reviews all the background meta-data gathered while we play before they make a decision. So 1000 members of a certain clan seeking to get you banned because of your elite skills won't work...if the meta-data reveal you've done nothing wrong.
But if you have, it's time to take your punishment like a real player.
TQQdles
Sadly in my experience Trion do Nothing at all about cheats, reason being? I'm ego 4600 and love this game esp pvp, ive never cheated and reported loads who have. And by have I mean I heard them in party chat ( not my friends I was trading ). Trying to perfect their shield glitch with the pyro when that was about, these people stated what they were trying to do and why? To not die and win all matches, time that's cheating pure and simple. Myself and friends have even submitted video footage of said cheats, the response from Trion? Nothing, sadly at least one of these, ahem, players has used so much real money buying lock boxes and boosts Trion prob don't wanna ban him for fear of losing money!
I did name and shame a few cheats on here but sadly Trion warned me about that, I was given the reason that I was breaching their terms and conditions by not helping to create a safe fun environment. I don't really agree as what I've stated is fact backed up with witnesses and video evidence. Which I find slightly bizarre as the cheats are the ones who stop making it fun for other ppl so really Trion come on and protect us from the cheats and ban them!
I've seen you in action now Badhabit, with your character Eyleen, and you're not hacking, that's for sure, but you're definitely abusing the Syphon glitch on your Fragger, because you proc the Syphon every time you hit me.
So go cry somewhere else, because glitch-exploiting is the same as hacking, since you gain unnormal superhuman abilities.
If people report you, that's your own fault, live with it!!
PS: every glitch exploiter (Vodka, Asheera and Diana) denies they're using it, but it's as obvious like hell.
Wait... 0.o
A glitcher actually starts a thread about whether or not they should worry about gettin' railed by Trion's ban-Hammer???? You kids and your online attention issues.
i know for myself that im not abusing any glitch, so ill start to take your flamertalk as a compliment and a proof of my skills (:
Skill? Haha, keep lying to yourself then... Oke, how about this: i'll post all my recorded videos online with you in it, and then let the community decide if you abuse glitches!Quote:
Originally Posted by badhabit
You know what will happen? People will not say you're glitch exploiting, they'll say you're just hacking, because it's that obvious.
We will see how good you are when the Syphon and Shield glitch gets fixed (if it will ever get fixed)!
It's because of people like you that only 50 players are left playing PVP!
post the link in this thread pls, i dont get tired of seeing a flamer getting killed.
and i dont care alot about what flamers like you who always search the fault in other peoples think about me (:
i already got monitored by admins, rly strange that i can still log on to my account, with all my glitch abusing and "hacking"
i talked to atom btw, he really admitted abusing some siphon glitch, he didnt want to tell me how it works, to prevent more people from using it but he told me that its not possible while bunnyhopping. and if you were paying attention so much that you can be so sure that im abusing that glitch, you also may have noticed that im constantly bunnyhopping while running around with a shotgun.
The reason you can still log on to your account is because the lazy admins in this game don't care about kicking people for glitching, that's why all those other glitchers are still running around aswell!Quote:
Originally Posted by badhabit
Ow, and when you know you're being watched it's not that hard to stop exploiting the glitch for a few minutes... ;)
It's no proof at all that you aint glitching and it's even less in your favor to bluff me with posting the video, just let me edit it a little bit and gather some more evidence and i'll be sure to send everybody a link ;)
I really wonder what your logical explaination will be for the Syphon nano effect that procs ALL THE TIME.
PS: just be glad iam not calling you cheater, but techincally that's exactly what you're doing!
im bunnyhopping all the time and using the glitch isnt possible while bunnyhopping. how is that no proof ?
yea, show all the players how the proc CHANCE of nano effects work, sometimes they proc often, sometimes they procc rarely or none at all. have fun gathering all moments at which im having some more luck, and dont forget to cut out all the parts i get 1 or no proc.
cant wait to see your pseudo-evidence (;
and they dont tell you that they are watching you, genius. at some point i could notice the aimbot check, my crosshair went a few times quick to the ground when i aimed at ppl. if i would have used a glitch, they'd know.
I had a prob with a plyr before with the infinite shield. Yes, after getting burned initially by the pvp setu[p shotty/immun I fell into the loop of jusing it. My shotty had fire nano and everytime I would hit Macavelly his shields would recharge almost instantly.
After reading on here it was a perk setup, I had even less respect for Trions beta testing/quality control.
BUT, if peeps keep that setup forever then WTF ya even PVP'g for when ya own almost all the time. Thats boring!
Otherwise, the shotty/immun has gotten boring. I have moved to other setups for freight yard/waterfront. But on Observatory lvl I dont see any other close quarters setup that works as good....without taking advantage of(a.k.a. exploiting) some of those cheap *** perk setups.
I've played games where both my SG and my AR proc like mad and then I have been in games where my guns barely proc at all.
Sometimes i can even swear that it procs more on certain people than on others. Perhaps thats just my imagination or a syphon resistant shield.
One thing I do know tho is that the VOT Fragger proccs more than any gun in the game right now. Always has and probably always will. It also seems like guns have different proccrates by default. Some VOT Fraggers barely proc while some of them proc almost every shot, this is a fact that has been tested out by me and a few mates of mine. We figured this out just after the launch and gathered as many siphon VOT Fraggers we could, some where useless and some was just too imbalanced to hand out to the public.
Shakk
Yeah oke, but still the principle stays the same, it's abusing a glitched gun :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakk
And in his case i haven't had a single encounter with him that he didn't proc the Syphon, so if it was random, it couldn't be all the time ;)
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Originally Posted by Shakk
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Originally Posted by dreamon666
you havent had a encounter with me where i didnt proc siphon on every shot i made ? thats just not true.
if you meant that im proccing siphon atleast one time in a 1n1: im proccing it most of the time after the 2nd or 3rd shot i make, not just if im playing against you, all the time. i dont know how often your nanos procc, but it always was that much for me.
i proc it alot, i proc it that often that i already thought that i might abuse a glitch without knowing it. turned out im not, obviously im just lucky.
and to the principle stays the same, its abusing a glitched gun: what should i do against that ? salvage my siphon fragger and any other fragger i get until i finally find one which really sucks ? complain to trion about that, dont blame me for it.
if you still think im abusing a glitch knowingly then i cant change that, if id make a video to show you that that is not the case, ud say that i stopped using that glitch for the time i recorded that video.
if you know a way that i can proof you that im not a glitcher, tell me and ill do that for you. if you dont, shut up and wait until the fix comes, if im suddenly a noob, then you were right.
Iam just comparing it to my own VOT Fraggers i've had, i've had about 6 VOT Fraggers i've tried out with different nano effects, i can barely make 1 nano effect proc for every two clips (about 16 shells), when iam lucky maybe one per clip (8 shells). And i was exaggerating that it is every shot with your Fragger, but it's at least every 2-4 shells you fire, which is 4 times more than me.
And in my oppinion luck can't have anything to do with it, since luck is completely random and your Syphon procs occur in a pattern.
And iam not saying that you have to salvage your Fragger, but if you're knowingly exploiting it then you should be prepared for the sh*tload of cheater accusations from other players aswell, and can't come crying here that people start reporting you, because it's YOUR CHOICE to use it, so it's also their choice to report you for any suspicious activity.
And willingly or not willingly using it is really not the point here, the point is that people are seeing something that no perk or weapon can generate under normal circumstances, so cheating or not, people saw something that wasn't normal and reporting you is the right thing to do then, although i wouldn't call it hacking, just glitching, nothing more.
PS: i wouldn't be worried to get banned for the reports, because the support staff didn't even respond to my report issue i send about you a week ago, that just shows how lazy the support is here.
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Originally Posted by dreamon666
i did a little pve test and im getting around 6 proccs on 2 mags(20 bullets). tested it with 3 different siphon fraggers. you said you tested it with different nanos, was siphon among them ? if not, maybe siphon has somehow a higher procchance then other nanos. if yes, something has to be wrong with your or my procchance.
edit: since i dont have a vot fragger with a other nano then siphon, i compared a radiance and a siphon techmag pulser. siphon: 3-8 proccs per mag. radiance: 0-2 proccs per mag, mostly 0. it seems to be the siphon nano itself what is messed up.
my problem is, that the cheater accusations come without knowingly abusing it, i reached that point a week ago.
would be nice to hear how often other peoples proc their nano with a siphon vot fragger.
if i really get much more proccs then the rest of the players, the glitch we were talking about maybe just needs to be triggered 1time and you keep it. if that is the case, i might have triggered it somehow and now i have it permanently.
i would never start playing not fair in pvp on purpose, i even stopped playing with infectors because i understood that its taking the fun out of it for other people.
if i or my weapon really is glitched somehow, ill report myself, open a thread and ask trion to check that.
So, now i have a liddle anouncement and some words to share with u guys. I Tried a rdicioulus amount of Weapons, Synergys, and mod combinations of mostly every weapon with every color or perk build. I have a onlie Time per day like 11 hours, yes i know junky but so what. And Blackhabbit, guess what? I never found a freaking immunizer who could two shoot a player in PvP or just a Raider. So if that isnt any glitch/Hack or else U my friend must be in the Matrix and connected to this game. Further is it not a very good evidence to not use any glitch/hack if every glitch/bug/hack user in this game come to aid ur reputation. I admit to be not the best PvP player here more just the middle, but if i cloak/shadow strike shoot u with a sawed off in ur Head and u even lost 25% Shield, wich reloads after 0,5 seconds, dont kills u, i am really curious how that works? And dont mess around with arrogant L2P **** now or ur ,,SKills,, .
And my dearest friend CheatingJoe, i have screens of our conversation where u admit to abuse shield glitch. Apart of this, to call me dammed german **** in French, is not just the behave of a racistic Chimpanze, its although a abuse of the Eula. So, if u (sarcsam mode on) GOD LIKE IMMORTAL ELKITE PVP GODS (sarcsm mode off) where so Kind to play fair and without any glitch or else, maybe , just maybe, u can prove what u can and show us mortal Noobs hiow to play efficent.
´Joetheshow:``We must also accept that in close combat is very strong, if he uses a weapon glitched or not Glitched I do not care, we must always find a way to be stronger than those who kill us, the solution is not to complain but to fight.`
big words young feller, but to fight with any way could sometimes go in a way that forced u to change the game ;P
And the announcement is, my fellers, me and our good friend Fraps will be on ur side every day we see u cheating or glitching or how u called ,,play massiv skilled,, and me personal Joe got atm a huge amount of cheating evidence wich i cut to a best off CheatingJoe atm ;)
Thanks for ur attention
Since I currently play around with nano effects and have a few syphon weapons (only blue) I will look into it. From my memory I would say that my VBI SMG with 1.10 nano effect chance mod, nano effect perk triggers the nano effect once or twice per mag.Quote:
Originally Posted by badhabit
VOT Fragger about once. My bolt-action sniper more often. Tachmag Pulser with burst +3 probably 3 times. But again, never really counted how often it happens. I will count now.
BTW: how often does syphon trigger the shield reg effect? Everytime or only once in a while?