Tired Of Hearing It :(

Its getting boring now. if you really hate the game or have any of the below issues that are really causing you grief the please go play something else until its all sorted.

Dont waste your time on a forum that no one from trion really gives a flying monkey about. They will fix things when they are ready.

Also there is a forum just for bugs complaints, go there instead.

Main story too short/easy
Fix Servers
Nerf Weapons
Stop shot n cloak
Pvp full of infectors or shot n cloaks
Fix boosts
Fix critical errors
Boring episode missions
Too easy episode missions
Not enough episode missions
Too many bugs
nerf infectors
nerf shotguns
nerf saws
Fix tier 4 loot boxes
Store prices too high
Social aspects dont work
Arkfalls glitch
Jackleg Joe too hard
Nim too hard/ too easy
Cars at arkfalls
Cars dont spawn
Loadouts disappear
Perks Disappear
Server lagg
Co ops too easy
No orange drops
Oranges on trade to high
Wheres the promised/not promised DLC.

Now all that said, those of you actually enjoying the game please post on here because i bet theres a lot more of you than the whiners.

I know the bugs are there and yes they can be a pain but its not stopping me logging on everynight and having a blast playing the game.:cool:

Fix boosts???? If people pay money for these and don't get them surely that's a reason to complain? lol Chillouit Chill ;)

Also I do like the game :D I just hate being robbed of my money.

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Originally Posted by Chilmeister

Its getting boring now. if you really hate the game or have any of the below issues that are really causing you grief the please go play something else until its all sorted.

Dont waste your time on a forum that no one from trion really gives a flying monkey about. They will fix things when they are ready.

Also there is a forum just for bugs complaints, go there instead.

Main story too short/easy
Fix Servers
Nerf Weapons
Stop shot n cloak
Pvp full of infectors or shot n cloaks
Fix boosts
Fix critical errors
Boring episode missions
Too easy episode missions
Not enough episode missions
Too many bugs
nerf infectors
nerf shotguns
nerf saws
Fix tier 4 loot boxes
Store prices too high
Social aspects dont work
Arkfalls glitch
Jackleg Joe too hard
Nim too hard/ too easy
Cars at arkfalls
Cars dont spawn
Loadouts disappear
Perks Disappear
Server lagg
Co ops too easy
No orange drops
Oranges on trade to high
Wheres the promised/not promised DLC.

Now all that said, those of you actually enjoying the game please post on here because i bet theres a lot more of you than the whiners.

I know the bugs are there and yes they can be a pain but its not stopping me logging on everynight and having a blast playing the game.:cool:

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What makes you think that the people this post is aimed at even get the concepts of logic and reason? let alone actually respond to them.

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Originally Posted by WarDawgUk

Fix boosts???? If people pay money for these and don't get them surely that's a reason to complain? lol Chillouit Chill ;)

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I agree mate but like i said theres a forum for it, so bugs and issues should be posted there and the other option is dont play until they are fixed or just enjoy the game without buying any of the bits stuff until its sorted.

I myself will be logging on tonight with a bottle of whiskey and a new outfit from the store as i feel i want a new look i may even buy the new look nomad.

All im saying is lets keep general chat for the fun stuff and keep bugs and issues where they may actually get looked at.

And do some work you lazy git lol :)

Lol im guilty of some of those, but let's be for real this thread wont stop it. A lot of us that "whine" about certain aspects still enjoy the game as well. Oh and yeah people know theres a place on the forum for these complaints, but people also know there is a trade portion of the forum, but everyday I see a new thread about trading or selling in the general discussion section lol now be warned people are going to say your "whining" about "whining" and then someone will probably in turn be like, well your "whining" about said "whiner" "whining" about "whining" lol and the cycle continues lol.

So what would you prefer everyone talk about?

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Originally Posted by abakai

What makes you think that the people this post is aimed at even get the concepts of logic and reason? let alone actually respond to them.

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I dont mate, im just tired of seeing it in general chat all the time. Be nice to see some positive stuff.

I have no whiskey and no beer :( I do have outfits that haven't seen the light yet :)

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Originally Posted by Chilmeister

Its getting boring now. if you really hate the game or have any of the below issues that are really causing you grief the please go play something else until its all sorted.

Dont waste your time on a forum that no one from trion really gives a flying monkey about. They will fix things when they are ready.

Also there is a forum just for bugs complaints, go there instead.

Main story too short/easy
Fix Servers
Nerf Weapons
Stop shot n cloak
Pvp full of infectors or shot n cloaks
Fix boosts
Fix critical errors
Boring episode missions
Too easy episode missions
Not enough episode missions
Too many bugs
nerf infectors
nerf shotguns
nerf saws
Fix tier 4 loot boxes
Store prices too high
Social aspects dont work
Arkfalls glitch
Jackleg Joe too hard
Nim too hard/ too easy
Cars at arkfalls
Cars dont spawn
Loadouts disappear
Perks Disappear
Server lagg
Co ops too easy
No orange drops
Oranges on trade to high
Wheres the promised/not promised DLC.

Now all that said, those of you actually enjoying the game please post on here because i bet theres a lot more of you than the whiners.

I know the bugs are there and yes they can be a pain but its not stopping me logging on everynight and having a blast playing the game.:cool:

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You know what's better than a complain thread? Its these type of threads, when a guy (you) tries to tell everyone to stop complaining. Of all the threads about people pleading and begging for some to stop complaining, there's always that idiot who has the audacity to wrote, and I quote

"Dont waste your time on a forum that no one from trion really gives a flying monkey about."

But your doing the exact same thing your asking us to do, wasting your time on the forums, because no one gives a flying monkey about what you say.

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So what would you prefer everyone talk about?

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I personally would like to see more of the things players actually enjoy in the game on here and what they are doing until the DLC comes out.

Me and a few mates spend the evenings just having a laugh blasting through the co ops or seeing how many arkfalls we can do in one go or road trips with plenty of killing.

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Originally Posted by WarDawgUk

I have no whiskey and no beer :( I do have outfits that haven't seen the light yet :)

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See you on there tonight then mate, we can listen to our other mate having a domestic again :)

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Originally Posted by Chilmeister

I dont mate, im just tired of seeing it in general chat all the time. Be nice to see some positive stuff.

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Here you go..:D
I am positive I love this game.
I am positive I have had none of the problems on your list.
I am positive my wife hates the amount of time I play this game.
I am positively looking forward to the DLC and generally I am just positive about this game and the IP. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Daholic

You know what's better than a complain thread? Its these type of threads, when a guy (you) tries to tell everyone to stop complaining. Of all the threads about people pleading and begging for some to stop complaining, there's always that idiot who has the audacity to wrote, and I quote

"Dont waste your time on a forum that no one from trion really gives a flying monkey about."


But your doing the exact same thing your asking us to do, wasting your time on the forums, because no one gives a flying monkey about what you say.

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Read it properly, im not saying dont complaim im saying im tired of it and pointing out the correct forum to do it on. It would just be nice to see some more positive stuff in general chat.

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Originally Posted by abakai

Here you go..:D
I am positive I love this game.
I am positive I have had none of the problems on your list.
I am positive my wife hates the amount of time I play this game.
I am positively looking forward to the DLC and generally I am just positive about this game and the IP. :cool:

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Lol glad to hear it.

I totally get what you're saying Chill, it doesn't look good for visitors to this forum who are considering the game. I love this game and play everyday mostly BUT.....my Xbox Live Gold just expired and I'm skint...Noooooo! LoL

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Originally Posted by Chilmeister

Its getting boring now. if you really hate the game or have any of the below issues that are really causing you grief the please go play something else until its all sorted.

Dont waste your time on a forum that no one from trion really gives a flying monkey about. They will fix things when they are ready.

Also there is a forum just for bugs complaints, go there instead.

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The same logic could also be spun as: If you do not like people complaining about the games issues, leave and come back once the issue is resolved.

Same logic, just spun from a different perspective. After all, if you are not enjoying the game because others are not enjoying it, why are you still here?

I think there will be nothing to read here if they all go to bugs section and I need to put my nerd rage on whiners somewhere - so keep posting those threads.

Well said OP.

I have no sympathy for someone who consistently complains about a situation they continue to put themselves in. <insert> naw bro, Trion put us here <insert> - and you continue to stay.

So people should only post the good, not the bad, because you're tired of hearing the bad and because Trion ignores things either way?

You can't honestly think that would be persuasive to anyone whatsoever, can you? That somewhere out there someone was about to post about how pissed off they are that their clan boost went *poof* yet again, but, hell, now they can't post about it because Chilmeister is sick of seeing those posts?

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Originally Posted by WarDawgUk

Fix boosts???? If people pay money for these and don't get them surely that's a reason to complain? lol Chillouit Chill ;)

Also I do like the game :D I just hate being robbed of my money.

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My experience has been that many of the people posting about boosts are posting about those someone else paid for. If someone in my clan pays for a boost that does not show up for them, then they need to submit a support ticket or use chat or work to get it taken care of.

The resolution can take time though and people need to understand this. If the lost boost was one for yourself alone, then they may have to first see that what you are saying is true. And on the server side it might look as if you did get the boost every time you logged on.

If a clan is large and the person bought a clan boost that sometimes worked and sometimes didn't for some other clan members, but it worked for them at all times, it's impossible for Trion to assess any bits that the purchaser is owed. I know this did happen in my clan for me. When some people were reporting they weren't seeing boosts, I was. And that was for several days. So some people also never experienced the loss of any boost I bought. And I didn't, either. So, what money/bits does Trion owe me and how would they figure that out?

Even if the boost dropped in and out for me (which has happened), it's difficult to quickly assess what bits I'm owed.

And here's another problem. Say my clan has a week of boosts up already that I did not buy and I buy a boost. That boost I bought does not take effect for a week. The boosts others bought stop working FOR ME. I am not owed any money until the boost I paid for should take effect in a week, and if it does not work.

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So people should only post the good, not the bad, because you're tired of hearing the bad and because Trion ignores things either way?

You can't honestly think that would be persuasive to anyone whatsoever, can you? That somewhere out there someone was about to post about how pissed off they are that their clan boost went *poof* yet again, but, hell, now they can't post about it because Chilmeister is sick of seeing those posts?

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Actually reading the OP might make what he said more clear to you ;).

I have bought a crap load of boosts, personal, group, clan, and they always work for me.

I LOVE this game, I will be here until the 5th DLC and beyond. If the server is open, Drixxa will be shooting things on it. Do I complain from time to time - hell yes, but only because I want to see this game be the best that it can be. Trion got so much right with this game. Things are getting better by the week despite the bumps in the road. I wish the DLC was coming sooner, but I can wait (and will, LOL) Plenty of things to do in the mean time.

Haters gonna hate.... whiners gonna whine......
But we will all be playing Defiance and having a grand old time.

I'm the same I buy group and clan loot bonus constantly and it works fine. Not sure about others ad they are harder to track but if 1 is working then....... I actually cant play game without loot bonus now lol as there is a huge difference in script and salvage to be gotten with all those lovely drops.

Though there are some who should just stop trying to convince others they made a bad mistake and should move on (happens on almost every game forum I visit), there are others who actually love game and just want it improved in little areas. That is why I post on here, as well as to find out new things I never knew before.

If Trion ignored these forums, then the bug forums wouldn't get emptied every other day. They watch, they just don't comment.

I agree with the OP. I also think that the majority of complaints (and I stress NOT ALL complaints) are from the younger players. Admit it... us old farts (again, in general) are not the most active in the online world of communication. It's a simple numbers game and WE are losing! If the people that were happy AND posted why they were happy it might look a lot different around here.

Remember, people rarely seek out a way to compliment but eagerly go in search to complain...

I was unaware that someone was forcing you to read the forums. I can see how that would be rough. When they go to the bathroom, call the police.

I will say nothing even tho I feel like I've been shafted
I will say nothing even tho the games main aspects are broken (have been from the start)
I will say nothing even tho trion only fix things that affect there cash flow ( vendor bug/duplicate items )
I will say nothing even tho 5 DLC packs was promised in season 1 of the show

@ Shogo, @ Don

Thank you for proving my last point... The OP NEVER said DON'T. He said there is a place on these forums for it and instead people feel the need to blast their complaints EVERYWHERE. Yes there are Big problems with the game. We know... One only has to search

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Originally Posted by TravelerX1

I have bought a crap load of boosts, personal, group, clan, and they always work for me.

I LOVE this game, I will be here until the 5th DLC and beyond. If the server is open, Drixxa will be shooting things on it. Do I complain from time to time - hell yes, but only because I want to see this game be the best that it can be. Trion got so much right with this game. Things are getting better by the week despite the bumps in the road. I wish the DLC was coming sooner, but I can wait (and will, LOL) Plenty of things to do in the mean time.

Haters gonna hate.... whiners gonna whine......
But we will all be playing Defiance and having a grand old time.

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Yep. I bought a boost that I didn't get (and plenty that I did). One boost did not work. I reported it and within the hour Trion had refunded bits to me.

The problem is people are clogging up the system by reporting problems they don't own. You can only ask for a fix for things you purchased. People don't even understand what that means. If I buy a clan boost that's tacked onto 3weeks of clan boosts already in effect, my boost won't start for 3 weeks. If clan boosts don't work a week from now, I am not owed money. I didn't buy that boost. I'm only owed for what I bought that does not work FOR ME.

I want this game to get better and I know that will happen. I'm not deluded, stupid, or anything else. I'm patient and I try to be constructive when complaining about bugs that crop up-complain and offer a suggestion if I can. If they don't use my idea that doesn't mean they're stupid - I know I'm not always right. And unlike a lot of people here I know I'm not perfect so far be it for me to expect perfection from anyone else.

Too the OP moaning about people moaning is like 2 skinheads fighting over a comb, funny to watch but dumb as a bag of rocks. Everyone has a right to complain and insted of telling them to play another game how about you just stop reading there post, problem solved.

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I will say nothing even tho I feel like I've been shafted
I will say nothing even tho the games main aspects are broken (have been from the start)
I will say nothing even tho trion only fix things that affect there cash flow ( vendor bug/duplicate items )
I will say nothing even tho 5 DLC packs was promised in season 1 of the show

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You have zero credibility when you don't read an OP's post.

Some of your claims that you've made in other threads have proven that lack of credibility. You've made statements that indicate you think Trion invented game glitches and bugs or that they have made promises they did not make.

And your last point is truly funny. If Trion promised anything about DLC it was never that 5 would be released during season 1. That is ridiculous and would be something no company has ever done-release 5 in 3 months. You have obviously never played a video game before in your life. Even if Trion promised 1 DLC in season 1, the period between the first and second season of the show is still season 1.

I am really certain that you are one of those people that had Trion released any DLC by now that didn't meet your high standards, you'd be complaining they didn't take enough time to get it right. And you'd complain that it should have been in the game all along and not DLC. This is the "I want it now" mentality-you can't get it soon enough but when you get it quickly it's never right.

It's also idiotic to say that the main aspects of the game have always been broken. Having played well over 500 hours with the vast majority of that working as intended that is not true for me. If it is for you then well report to Trion those specific things that are not working for you, instead of constantly making blanket statements that the game isn't working. All of your threads have been extremely general about the game not working so I am not even sure what your complaints are.

Even here you are making no sense. You're saying the game doesn't work AND you want 5 DLC packs NOW. I hope to never enter your world of logic.


Trion only fixes things they get money from? Ludicrous. They fixed many things that were affecting gameplay for people-Freightyard, Dam Defense, other glitches. They also did some things to try and address issues that made people mad, and risked making others mad by doing them. But you wanted them to keep other bugs that benefitted you. The problem with the duplication bug was that that could probably have eventually crashed the whole thing since it seemed to be infinite. I bet you would have liked for that to happen.

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@ Shogo, @ Don

Thank you for proving my last point... The OP NEVER said DON'T. He said there is a place on these forums for it and instead people feel the need to blast their complaints EVERYWHERE. Yes there are Big problems with the game. We know... One only has to search

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Thanks for playing, but I'm not a young player. In fact, I have kids that wouldn't count as young players.

You said I didn't read his post, but I think perhaps I read it more carefully than you did. Many of the things he listed aren't bugs and don't belong in the bug report forum. If he had kept his list to things that actually belong in another forum, he might have a point. As it is, he's included a bunch of things that have no other forum, and he's just complaining because people are posting who have a different opinion than he does.

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You have zero credibility when you don't read an OP's post.

Some of your claims that you've made in other threads have proven that lack of credibility. You've made statements that indicate you think Trion invented game glitches and bugs or that they have made promises they did not make.

And your last point is truly funny. If Trion promised anything about DLC it was never that 5 would be released during season 1. That is ridiculous and would be something no company has ever done-release 5 in 3 months. You have obviously never played a video game before in your life. Even if Trion promised 1 DLC in season 1, the period between the first and second season of the show is still season 1.

I am really certain that you are one of those people that had Trion released any DLC by now that didn't meet your high standards, you'd be complaining they didn't take enough time to get it right. And you'd complain that it should have been in the game all along and not DLC. This is the "I want it now" mentality-you can't get it soon enough but when you get it quickly it's never right.

It's also idiotic to say that the main aspects of the game have always been broken. Having played well over 500 hours with the vast majority of that working as intended that is not true for me. If it is for you then well report to Trion those specific things that are not working for you, instead of constantly making blanket statements that the game isn't working. All of your threads have been extremely general about the game not working so I am not even sure what your complaints are.

Even here you are making no sense. You're saying the game doesn't work AND you want 5 DLC packs NOW. I hope to never enter your world of logic.


Trion only fixes things they get money from? Ludicrous. They fixed many things that were affecting gameplay for people-Freightyard, Dam Defense, other glitches. They also did some things to try and address issues that made people mad, and risked making others mad by doing them. But you wanted them to keep other bugs that benefitted you. The problem with the duplication bug was that that could probably have eventually crashed the whole thing since it seemed to be infinite. I bet you would have liked for that to happen.

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You are an out rite tool pure and simple.
Dam defence and freight yard was out of the game 5-6 weeks. DLC was 5 promised with the season pass in season 1 of the show go on prove me wrong you can't coz you no its true. I don't care about other games bugs so because trion didn't invent bugs its ok that this game is full them. Why would I want ****ty duplicate things from that store. People like you will take anything thats why its become the norm for games to be released in this ****ty state. As it is the DLC will break the game no matter when it's released so would Rather have it now than in two months, there's jack **** to do in the game as it is and yes your not the only one who has put hours into the game.

And if you don't want people like me on the forums tell trion to refund the season pass and I will gladly leave

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DLC was 5 promised with the season pass in season 1 of the show go on prove me wrong you can't coz you no its true.

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Here you go: http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...ll=1#post45863

The short answer is that the "Season" in "Season Pass" refers to a season of the game, not a season of the show. I know. It makes no sense. In any case, Trion's official response is that a season is longer than 3 months, but shorter than 12, so they have until April 2 of next year to get out all 5 DLC releases.

I said at the time that using the word "Season" in the name of the DLC multipack was going to cause confusion because the game is tied to a television show with a different definition of season. Someone at Trion should really update the description.

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