Don't be disheartened by the cynical

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Originally Posted by Blondin

Yeah yeah it was more sarcasm, and you're right it's better to show some positivity.

I just can't understand ppl telling that they uninstal Defiance and that they play that game or that game which is thousand better, but they are still here on that forum, nothing to do in their life?

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Couldn't really say, if I had to guess I'd say some level of spite and contempt. It just seems so petty to me, people build these expectations from past experiences with out realizing they are demeaning someone's art form. It is what it is.

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Originally Posted by Nyako

To be honest, you're the first person to post that I actually read as trying to be neutral if that is even possible. You are like the Jedi code states, "There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity." (As written in The Jedi Path by Daniel Wallace). It is actually refreshing to for a change not really need to defend or point out something in a post on here. Thanks :)

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Actually Nyako, you are wrong there.

Terms such as ranting and raving are not neutral, they are negative terms. When used to describe people, they take on an insulting quality and imply that the person does not have a legitimate view, this is reinforced by calling their logic flawed.

The only result that use of such language will generate is to antagonize people who feel they have legitimate issues, whether they are "ranting and raving" or not.

Daniel Wallace, in his quote, has demonstrated a lack of understanding - ignorance just means that someone does not have a certain knowledge at hand, it is neither positive or negative. Knowledge is mainly the awareness or familiarity with a subject, or a persons range of information. The act of not knowing is by definition ignorance. For example, I do not know where San Diego is because I am ignorant of the geographical layout of the US.

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Originally Posted by Haffoc

Actually Nyako, you are wrong there.

Terms such as ranting and raving are not neutral, they are negative terms. When used to describe people, they take on an insulting quality and imply that the person does not have a legitimate view, this is reinforced by calling their logic flawed.

The only result that use of such language will generate is to antagonize people who feel they have legitimate issues, whether they are "ranting and raving" or not.

Daniel Wallace, in his quote, has demonstrated a lack of understanding - ignorance just means that someone does not have a certain knowledge at hand, it is neither positive or negative. Knowledge is mainly the awareness or familiarity with a subject, or a persons range of information. The act of not knowing is by definition ignorance. For example, I do not know where San Diego is because I am ignorant of the geographical layout of the US.

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San Diego is located on the southern tip of California. And how is ignorance (A state of being uninformed) not contrary to knowledge?

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Originally Posted by jbob spittlewop

San Diego is located on the southern tip of California. And how is ignorance (A state of being uninformed) not contrary to knowledge?

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Because we are all ignorants and we all have knowledge.
It`s kind of a half full glass vs an half empty glass...

This game is dying, quit trying guys... if theres 20:1 ppl saying negative stuff then it might be for a reason, nothing happens for nothing.

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Originally Posted by Bordaf

This game is dying, quit trying guys... if theres 20:1 ppl saying negative stuff then it might be for a reason, nothing happens for nothing.

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The general rule is; people come to the forums to complain, to fix a problem, or because they're bored. They don't generally come if they enjoy the game because they're busy playing.

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Originally Posted by jbob spittlewop

The second anyone has something good to say about the game, twenty over zealous pessimists rise to the occasion with the mindset that any positive commentary is a personal attack designed to illegitimize their ranting and raving. Don't let their flawed logic and impatience impact your experience negatively, and don't jump on the nay sayer band wagon.

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Let's see.
1. Game started bad.
2. Took least 2 months to be a half way decent game.
3. By time game became decent we ran out of things to do and asked for some real content like our DLC.
4. Many of us upset to hear it was put off or even planned- hold on trying not to laugh out loud, since the beginning.
5. They added Sieges then took them away which was the ONLY actual content since the release that was actually worth anything to date.

If you are not mad either you just started in June or your a lemming. I see trion and me using you lemmings because how else can I expect to not buy anything at the store and still expect the game servers to be paid for and remain up?

That's right. Lemmings. All of us who realize how badly we been burned thank you for willing setting yourselves on fire and giving us something to enjoy Until the end of July.

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Originally Posted by Elric1

Let's see.
1. Game started bad.
2. Took least 2 months to be a half way decent game.
3. By time game became decent we ran out of things to do and asked for some real content like our DLC.
4. Many of us upset to hear it was put off or even planned- hold on trying not to laugh out loud, since the beginning.
5. They added Sieges then took them away which was the ONLY actual content since the release that was actually worth anything to date.

If you are not mad either you just started in June or your a lemming. I see trion and me using you lemmings because how else can I expect to not buy anything at the store and still expect the game servers to be paid for and remain up?

That's right. Lemmings. All of us who realize how badly we been burned thank you for willing setting yourselves on fire and giving us something to enjoy Until the end of July.

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Rather be a lemming than a...
http://www.calbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/donkey.jpg

Great game, can't wait for DLC.

Defiance is one of the bigger disappointments ever and expectations weren't even that high.

Game is an absolute disaster.