There's a reason WoWs content has gotten ridiculously easy with each expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tharcion
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There's a reason WoWs content has gotten ridiculously easy with each expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tharcion
First things first, EQ wasn't a shooter. That alone tells you that there shouldn't be any comparisions between the two games anymore than there should be a comparision between Defiance's launch and D and D tabletop launch. Two vastly different mmos so it's not a good match. You doing this is not helpful for perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by JxSiN
Throwing the GM thing in there was unnecessary as well because no one cares about what you claim you did 10 years ago with nothing to back it up and even if you could, and it doesn't carry any weight here in this type of game unless you were a dev/coder and can speak to the game's issues. That you had a talk or two with a dev then doesn't mean anything (if you did, or even remember 10 years ago), because a player could just as well had 'insight' since they saw the lack of content to. You know, kind of how we see it here.. right now?
Second, why do I have to 'check how Neilsen's work', lol? Would they show that there is a bigger audience watching that show that we are lead to believe, or that SyFy, which is known for chopping shows, could end it after the second season very easily even if it was doing gangbuster ratings. (Which it isn't). If your rebuttal to a television show that isn't covered much beyond SyFy's own press (not by any major publications, press, media, etc) is that ratings aren't right, then that's a pretty big fail. See when a show is doing good, like Game of Thrones, you don't have to have HBO pushing it.. everyone else does it for you because.. it's a great show. No one pushes Defiance outside of SyFy.
Third, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Universe_Online I suggest you familiarize yourself with DCUO, because I don't think you know enough.
They've had six DLCs since they launched with this announced:That's how a professional organization does DLC: they announce what's coming, they tell you exactly what's IN the packs, and they also tell you what's coming after that because it's already planned out. Trion:"We have DLC 1 coming out and you'll get Casties and daggers! DLC 2 will be.. um.. urr.. ahh.. DLC 3 will be.. well, we'll release it.. urr.. um.. Never mind.. let's talk about DLC 4 and.. wait. Let's not talk about DLC at all in the future. Just wait for it."Quote:
"In late December future DLC packs for 2013 were announced titled Origin Crisis, Halls of Power, and Trials of Trigon. With the later to feature a brutal hellscape of Gotham City.[22]"
Housing lairs, lol? Really? You didn't like them. The players PAYING for the game do and guess what? They stay and PAY! That's the point. That you left because of 'crackhead housing' is again.. not important as you think. You left and the game ended up doing BETTER after you did by going F2P. That just tells me that when they got rid of dinosaurs who wanted nonsense, the game picked up.
Defiance doesn't have housing and the people here don't want it, so it's a false equivalency. But the people here DO want content, and guess what? Trion puts out Sieges, which they actually LIKE, then they pull it away on a string to re-release as 'content' in a future DLC. That's pretty low, even SOE wouldn't do a cheesy thing like that, lol. Why not leave it in? Because they are going to repackage it and push it out again.. the same thing, with different mob models and call it 'content'... like they do with Rift's rifts and you'll clap like a moron. Funny stuff.
If you want to convince yourself that this game is going to do half as well as DCUO will, be my guest. I've seen that happen already in Warhammer Online when the fanbois kept saying "What? Nothing wrong with the game. Ignore the trolls. Mythic knows what it's doing because it made DAOC! This game will kill WoW when they just add/fix.. blah blah blah."
Actually I don't have to argue with you about this. I just have to watch as you run from post to post in this thread defending/rebutting what you can, and then when the new consoles come out with the next gen games and this is F2P and struggling pushing 'deals', smile... because I know that when they do that, people like you will say "F2P is a good move" even though now as the sales have bottomed out you say it isn't.
All true, but the fact still remains... it took almost nine months for their first DLC (Fight for The Light) to launch. And the only good thing that came out of that DLC was the hard light powerset. Everything else included with that DLC was average, at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fancypants
What is the point to know exactly when the dlc will be released?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fancypants
Does it make easier to wait?
You already know that 5 dlc will be released between season one and season tow, with the first one late july. What do you really need more?
Same Shtako, Different MMO. If you have ever played an MMO before, any problems this game has you should be used to dealing with. If not then maybe MMO's aren't for you.
The fact also remains that what people did in those nine months was the events that came out, which you didn't mention.Quote:
Originally Posted by N3gativeCr33p
Also, DCUO isn't like Defiance where you don't need an excuse to do anything... you just shoot crap. Most of the players here don't really care about a story.. only the forum posters. People in game want to run over bugs and ram bosses or jump cars with no real reason to do it.
In DCUO, the game is built on a story. The story is told from a myriad of perspectives on the Hero side and also on the Villain side. There are different roles to play and try out; tank, healer, dps. There are different styles and looks that people roll to go along with those as part of the game.. an Ice tank who looks like Lobo, a mystic healer who looks like Voodoo, a dps who looks like Deadpool.. the entire focus of the game is different than this, and for a lot of the people that's the draw. It's an iconic brand and as such people were happy to reroll.
You don't get such satisfaction here. You want to be a Castie? No. Wait until DLC. You want to be any other race? No... we haven't thought that far down the line yet as to what's possible. This game has no reroll or replay whatsoever as a new player. In fact, there isn't any reason to level up more than one weapon other than you're bored.
You want content? Here's a Siege. Oh wait.. you like that too much. We need to take that away so you don't overexhaust yourself and then want something else.. but don't worry, we'll bring it back again with the next DLC as 'new content'.
Seriously, Defiance has been nothing but one big shell game from the beginning where they keep hiding the pea. DCUO whether you think (again personal taste) was average or not, has put the content out and keeps it coming and they are doing well because of it.
Lack of contents never been a huge problem for me in previous mmos. Sure I've dealt with glitches, server lag, updates that caused more problems then it fixed, and whatever else you can think of. I haven't dealt with lack of content, it's one of the many reasons I play mmos, I love investing my time in a game that has potential and is worth a ****. This is neither of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bar0n_5am3d1
Man, if I gave you a dollar could you go please buy a clue. So let us drop EQ from the equation, since you don't seem to grasp the points I was making. As far as Wikipedia and DCUO, that's exactly where I got my info about the release date on the DLC and the statement about the many technical issues at launch. Glad we share similar sources :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fancypants
The problem here is that you can't put up an intellectual debate. I've destroyed all your "well this game was perfect at launch and had DLCs on the spot unlike Defiance cuz it's garbage."
Yeah, I like this game and I have just as much right to go around on a forum for the game giving my opinion, just like all the people who say stuff negatively.
Speaking of negatively, a quick scroll through your previous posts.... you've been here for at least over a week on these forums, and all you want to do is talk about how bad the game is or how bad the show is or whatever. Does it make you feel good about yourself to bash something constantly? Does it make you feel like a big man cuz you don't like something and therefor everyone who does must be inferior and have to listen to your almighty opinion. I'm going to reuse a phrase I have said before, and you've probably read before, because you seem to jump around just as much as I do on these forums, if I didn't like milk, I wouldn't be hanging around the cow's teet.
And yes, as long as there are people out there who "hate the game but yet can't turn away from the forum" there will be people like me who "like the game and can't turn away from the forum."
BTW, Maybe when Defiance is 2-3 years old, they can say, this year we have X, Y, and Z coming out with this, this, and this. Not even DCUO was able to do that when it came out. It's like comparing the motor skills of a new-born to a teenager. But then again, you probably fail to understand that as well. As far as I'm concerned, Trion said 5 DLCs out before 2nd season. Well, 2nd season is confirmed, so I guess they are on track. That's more than I can say for DCUO when it first came out.
We could go on all day, but in the end, you will keep your opinion, and I will keep mine. Yet, I'm pretty sure we will both still be here on these forums. So, who looks worse, someone constantly on a forum because they like something and are excited about it, or someone constantly on a forum because they don't like something and have to tell everyone?
I disagree with your statement OP due to
1) The game is not dead, there is still a good amount of people on it
2) It isn't August yet, so maybe when it is you can consider re-posting if your prediction is true. And that's a big IF.
I just had to quote this again for the humor. Isn't this exactly what you are doing in the opposite manner?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fancypants