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  • 06-26-2013, 02:59 PM
    Golgo28
    A less then positive view of defiance for legitimate reasons.
    Let start off by giving some background info.I played the alpha and beta.I even went and convinced many of my friends to uy the game at launch.I had pre ordered the ultimate edition of the game.One could say I was a fanboy before the game was even released.

    Then the game releases and it had bugs some that were reported in alpha/beta.The servers were beyond laggy and barely up to par.But still I defended the game from naysayers said they were trolls and whatnot.I beat the main story and all the side missions in a week and a half in spite of the server problems.But I still defended the game when people complained the game had little content.

    But as time has gone on I slowly but surely started to agree to with the no content complaints.And even the complaints about bugs.With most of the few episode missions being nothing but go to spot x and collect the data recorder.With bugs from alpha still not being fixed and new bugs popping up with each patch.

    And to top it all off customer service has been declining alot.And the devs haven't made things much better with the copy and paste answers they give players,when they decide to communicate.And I see all the fanboys posting saying"just wait you see they are gonna make the more awesome."Honestly let's be realistic Trion is becoming a company that seems to not give a rat's rear about it's customers.

    The game has little content and what does get added is very bland.The social features of the game are practically non-existent.Most of the post I see on twitter and the games site is trion pushing the overpriced crap on the cash shop.6 to 7 dollars for an outfit is just plain ridiculous,and the boost when they are working are hardly worth it.If the first dlc even comes out this July though I have my doubts.If the little bit of content I have seen released is an indicator,it will probably be mostly data recorder pick up missions.

    Then you have the pvp which so far has been very generic.It is made up of death match and capture and hold.Shadow wars is just the capture and hold pvp but on the over world with more players.But it's not something we haven't seen on other games.And with fewer maps then most shooters.with the third one having to be unavailable for the first 2 months.And then still being buggy.

    Arkfalls lack variety and are still filled with bugs from pre launch.And unfortunately if the bugs get fixed new ones will appear in the patch meant to fix them.And when we the consumer complain we will get our post either removed or the threads locked.In fact after I post this there will be a flood of fanboys flocking to defend the game.To say I don't know what I am talking about.Calling me a troll and doing the typical internet bs saying why my point is invalid or how they can destroy my argument

    The first dlc needs to be great,not just good or ok but great.Cause if it is average or only gives less then ten hours of content the game will be further hurt.The game has been out around 3 months now and I've spent fewer hours on it then offline games like skyrim.But my hope for this game is almost gone,hell even the games makers show almost no energy about the game.The game is unlikely to be growing a bigger player base without some major changes on the developers side of things.
  • 06-26-2013, 03:09 PM
    Blunthound
    I can't agree more, I just posted a thread somewhat like this, this game is a bust, they would have to flood the game with content for me to even consider buying any dlc, and I mean FLOOD!
  • 06-26-2013, 03:09 PM
    Nyako
    I so wholeheartedly agree with pretty much all of it except the DLC part.

    From what we have been told about the DLC... The vehicle and charged weapons are nice, but I don't really see those holding people here in the game either. I'll even add that with the plague sieges, they got so monotonous that people just flat out didn't show up in droves like they had been doing when they were brand new. I'm expecting the same to happen with Volge sieges too. Its to the point even for ark falls, whats the point in going to every ark fall event... what is the point in doing every last single ark fall for any ark fall event that day. There just too numerous to seem special and the more you do any one little thing in any game, the more tiring and boring it gets.

    Thus, I've went from having high hopes on the DLC to really thinking of it as just another patch to try to liven up the game for a few days, then it will be right back to losing interest in people's eyes. I can even see that merchants of Defiance, with the release of the DLC will still tell people not to play this game because of how bad people say it is. And I wholeheartedly agree with that myself.
  • 06-26-2013, 03:10 PM
    krayzgates
    all i can say is ill be disappointed after all the hype about the new race and weaps, and it implodes. i have the season pass yes, but now im a little concerned its not gonna have much content when i could have put my money somewheres else. Im a huge fan of this game, im EGO 3400...close to finishing all my pursuits (94) and i am getting bored with it. It has officially became a grind for me. I dont mind bugs and stuff, i can live with that...but repitition is driving me insane...so i take a break from it, get back on it, still bored. Im sure Trion is doing the best they can to help this game, just hate waiting another month for DLC, and i dont wanna get my hopes up for anything fantastic. Defiance is a wonderful game...just keep me intrigued is all i ask
  • 06-26-2013, 03:14 PM
    physics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golgo28 View Post
    Let start off by giving some background info.I played the alpha and beta.I even went and convinced many of my friends to uy the game at launch.I had pre ordered the ultimate edition of the game.One could say I was a fanboy before the game was even released...

    I'm with you. Months later one can't help but be disappointed. Very little depth and very little challenge. Get a shield with a 3 sec recharge and grasp the concept of cover and your invincible. Ark Falls are a glorified version of duck hunt. Just emptying bullets into a giant sponge with no fear of legitimate recourse.
    I defended this game for so long but driving to ark falls only to watch a crystal disappear and stunt the entire event this late in the game is unacceptable.
    Something about this game i like so much i wanna keep believing but i have reached the tipping point.
  • 06-26-2013, 03:16 PM
    Nyako
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    Originally Posted by krayzgates View Post
    all i can say is ill be disappointed after all the hype about the new race and weaps, and it implodes. i have the season pass yes, but now im a little concerned its not gonna have much content when i could have put my money somewheres else. Im a huge fan of this game, im EGO 3400...close to finishing all my pursuits (94) and i am getting bored with it. It has officially became a grind for me. I dont mind bugs and stuff, i can live with that...but repitition is driving me insane...so i take a break from it, get back on it, still bored. Im sure Trion is doing the best they can to help this game, just hate waiting another month for DLC, and i dont wanna get my hopes up for anything fantastic. Defiance is a wonderful game...just keep me intrigued is all i ask

    Do like I did, right it off as a learning experience that you won't ever repeat again with buying a DLC season pass. I know I won't do it again, thank you TRION. That was real smart of you guys.

    The thing is too... with such a huge delay in DLC 1 coming out too, for the little bit of content it suppose to add. I'm sorry but I'll be bored with that in a week or less. And it took TRION what is it now... almost 1 and a half months and still no DLC to come up with that little amount of DLC they proposed? Come on, if I can honestly tell you right now that I'll be bored in just 1 week or less with that amount of content, you guys need to add a LOT more.
  • 06-26-2013, 03:25 PM
    mbergeron
    I think they missed a big opportunity with the removal of the sieges and that was to keep the game mode in, but with a different enemy. They could have had it like each place where the plague sieges took place the plague enemies are replaced by enemies that normally occupy that area . Raiders at kenn farm, 99ers at bolinas, hellbugs at diablo, and either mutants or dark matter at the china town location. This would have kept the game mode fresh and may have helped to keep people interested until the dlc was released.

    When the dlc is released the questions won't be about what is new or awesome on the dlc, but instead people will be asking what has the dlc done to break the game and how long are we going to have to wait for it to get fixed and running properly.
  • 06-26-2013, 03:26 PM
    Golgo28
    What's funny is I used to think the gamers that said"I'll never waste my money on a collector's edition or what have you cause I've been ripped off before,"were overexagerating.But after putting down 150 bucks on this game at launch and being left feeling I didn't get my monies worth.I understand their view points now.This game has left a bad taste in my mouth for any sort of colector's edition or ultimate edition.Worse yet this was my first time buying something other then the standard edition of a game.
  • 06-26-2013, 03:42 PM
    Nyako
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    Originally Posted by Golgo28 View Post
    What's funny is I used to think the gamers that said"I'll never waste my money on a collector's edition or what have you cause I've been ripped off before,"were overexagerating.But after putting down 150 bucks on this game at launch and being left feeling I didn't get my monies worth.I understand their view points now.This game has left a bad taste in my mouth for any sort of colector's edition or ultimate edition.Worse yet this was my first time buying something other then the standard edition of a game.

    I did that with AION, brought Collectors edition of it right at launch of AION to the general public. I left AION the first time about two weeks later. Buggy and laggy for me at the time... And by then I was to the point of PVP areas where people from the opposite side would teleport to our area and just slaughter people. And everyone knew that SMs at the time were limited at their very low levels... So was no point in dealing with the PVP and leveling to be a force in PVP.

    Eventually, I brought TERA. I didn't buy the collector's version, not even sure it had one. I enjoyed it extensively, but even it had issues too...

    SWTOR I enjoy, still play it even, and never brought its CE version. Hate that I don't have the CE code though, would like to see what that vendor has. Probably not worth the money and effort though.

    Then with this game, Defiance, If I had gotten the GameStop exclusive Ultimate Collectors edition thing for $150 USD. I would be way more pissed at the way this game is right now than I am having only gotten the season pass and the digital deluxe. With just that though, I'm pissed off and feel cheated out of a lot of money.
  • 06-26-2013, 04:44 PM
    noladude
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