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Haven't played any of the PvP yet, but it is not shocking that a shotgun is more powerful than an AR or LMG. People frequntly run around in CoD with shotguns and get one or two shot kills. Shotguns...

lol I think you are overreacting a bit. We can chat and discuss without getting all crazy. No is saying anything about the game being broke, just discussing a bug (if it is a bug?). Chill out. Calm...

Hopefully they fix it in the patch.

Does anyone else have a problem with crouching and firing? I find that when I crouch behind something, even when my cross-hairs are on the enemy, when I fire, it hits the object I'm crouching behind,...

ah ok, Thank you! It was really pissing me off. A little annoying though that you can't be hit, def a bug.

same problem. I think only one person can do it and then it has to reset?

Ok, fair enough.

Why wasn't the game download just updated to include the patch? Why make me wait again? Especially when the PSN servers are much faster than Defiance's.

No disc, as I already stated. PSN download.

lol, I was too, (as you can see in the taskbar). I don't care how fast your connection is. I never said it was slow.

But soon, Google Fiber will be in Austin, and I will win that battle....

this was a download from PSN.

I never said you had DSL or slow Internet.......

I think you guys are missing the point. I know there will be patches. My complaint is that they are there at launch and they are VERY large files, and defiance has VERY slow servers.

Well we are talking about a patch right after the game came out. Of course every game is going to have a patch at some point. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.

And I do have big boy internet...

Wrong. I got it on launch day. There was no major patch. It had a 1.2MB download. The game has had patches and downloads since, but nothing that took an hour (Defiance has 30 minutes for the first...

Two patches?!?

Helpful? Who was being helpful, the person that told to stop whining or the person that added no value to the conversation by telling me that all games do this (which is not correct)

Bioshock Infinite. Mass Effect 3, Call of Duty Black Ops II, Tomb Raider. Those games either had a) no patch. or b) a patch that was less than 1.2mb and took 30 seconds to install.

No dude, this is totally my first one. You mean most games have a 30 minute patch that you have to download before you can play it for the first time.....

Of course it's not my first game! I think...

Yeah, and if you want to complain about we're going to come on here and make fun of you! ::rolls eyes::

Why is there already a patch for the game? It's really annoying that I have to wait 30 minutes for a patch to download when the game came out 5 days ago. Especially since I had to wait 10 minutes...