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    Quote Originally Posted by Myria View Post
    These numbers are live+SD, so while they do count some peripheral viewers you are right in that they'll miss a lot. However, I'm not convinced it matters, since the same can be said of any show and I'm fairly certain the various advertisers use their own variation on metrics anyway.

    Not sure if live+7d is available anywhere for cable stuff, I've only seen it for major network shows, but it would be interesting to see what, if any, overall difference it made.
    Most advertisers (if not all) use Neilson's. Neilson's has the monopoly on the market.
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    Also, for your reading enjoyment:

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonDav View Post
    I'm pretty sure not one NBA finals game aired on the same day as Defiance. I don't watch Hockey so I can't comment on which days the NHL finals were played.
    Well you'd be wrong because the final game was on a Monday and the Stanley Cup final as well./smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by treadingwater View Post
    Well you'd be wrong because the final game was on a Monday and the Stanley Cup final as well./smh
    How about doing your freaking research. It's obvious you don't watch the sport, so use the internet to your advantage. The last game was on THURSDAY June 20. You kidding me??? Talk about "smh".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myria View Post
    Of course you can, and should. Ratings are inherently a competition and inherently a zero-sum game.
    No you can't. That is like saying you have five customers. Three of them love Orange Juice and two of them Love Lemonaide and then putting an Orange Juice Stand and Lemonaide stand next to each other and looking at the results and going oh hey that is strange we had 3 choose orange juice.

    Now if you had five people who enjoy orange juice and you have 3 different stands selling orange juice and then you analyze which juice they chose then it has meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonickat View Post
    No you can't. That is like saying you have five customers. Three of them love Orange Juice and two of them Love Lemonaide and then putting an Orange Juice Stand and Lemonaide stand next to each other and looking at the results and going oh hey that is strange we had 3 choose orange juice.
    Honestly I have no clue what point you're trying to make.

    Regardless, ratings are, as I said, inherently zero-sum, that's why the point/share system is constructed as it is. Shows of all types are, should be, and will be compared, because in the end advertisers by and large don't much care about what kind of show it is, they care about whether or not said show brings in the demo they care about in sufficient numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treadingwater View Post
    Yah science fiction programming is dominated by male viewers who love sports. The NBA/Stanley Cup finals were a big part in the drop.
    Made me LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covington View Post
    Made me LOL.
    Kinda true, though.

    I know I didn't watch Defiance that Monday when the Heat vs. Pacers Game 7 was on. DVR'd it, of course.

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    Sadly, with no TV, none the less Pay-TV, I don't get to add to the Defiance ratings. Not that it'd matter since I doubt they'd count Australia into it.

    But thanks for reminding me I need to get the latest ep. I needed to waste some time.

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