Game PVP is a Farce

[Xoralis]

I don't know what the big deal is? I use Blur and Shotty/Vbi Assault or Tac Mag =D

Infectors, couriers, cloakers and boomers annoy the crap out of me but I am not going to QQ or complain about it, i just tailor myself to whats going on. Can easily take out an infector player but the REAL PROBLEM WITH PVP is - EVERYONE is a hero, people don't run as a group so if you run as a group you always do better than a bunch of headless chickens running around.

As for the entire bunny hopping, yeah it also annoys me but rather than QQ about it I have started to do it. I figure my choices are rage and quit or learn and do the same.

Apart from a few things i would like to see tweeked i don't do that badly in PVP so i'm happy. Can't win every match anyway.

[DEFCON ONE]

I don't know what the big deal is? I use Blur and Shotty/Vbi Assault or Tac Mag =D

Infectors, couriers, cloakers and boomers annoy the crap out of me but I am not going to QQ or complain about it, i just tailor myself to whats going on. Can easily take out an infector player but the REAL PROBLEM WITH PVP is - EVERYONE is a hero, people don't run as a group so if you run as a group you always do better than a bunch of headless chickens running around.

As for the entire bunny hopping, yeah it also annoys me but rather than QQ about it I have started to do it. I figure my choices are rage and quit or learn and do the same.

Apart from a few things i would like to see tweeked i don't do that badly in PVP so i'm happy. Can't win every match anyway.

YAY!!! Finally someone who can adapt. Big ups to you. There are things in every game that are annoying or hard to deal with. If everything was easy, there would be no challenge. It's no fun to get 1 shotted by a cloak shotty guy with syphon and dmg rolls...but I don't come on here whinning and crying about it. There are plenty of ways around different weapons. Just have to experiment and practice.

[DEFCON ONE]

u used to use a striaght big boomer all the time. now when i see you, its big boomer and infector and usually with 3 other infector users all in teh back of the observatory with an escape route. i don't mind the weapon if they made the reticule smaller like that of an SMG which would require aim. but a rnage of 48 with no fall off damage, DOT, and spawns bugs taht seek and destroy and fully auto the immunizer is a pretty broken weapon for PvP.

i'm nto gonna complain cause hey its in teh game. its not like you cheat or expliot a glitch so you just have to adjust to what the other team does, but its still an OP weapon anyway you look at it. no unbiased person would say otherwise

I still use my big boomer. People complain just as much about the big boomer as they do the infector. The bottom line, if there is a gun in the game that kills people A LOT, people will whine and cry. There is not really much more to say, but learn to adapt and overcome. I am all for certain weapons to get BUFFs in the game, but as for nerfing weapons (ALL WEAPONS), it hurts and cripples a game. It also drives people away. Buffing weapons will make people happy and will also keep others content.

[DEFCON ONE]

One last thing...I know that more than half of the people on the forums who complain about infectors or detonators or any other gun for that matter, USE IT THEMSELVES...and have the nerve to sit on their computer whinning about it...talk about the biggest hypocrite. Most of these guys who end up using them still can not kill the top level guys. If the gun is "SOOOO OVER POWERED", why then do the top level players not die by their own weapons?

Hmm....let's think about this....could it be they have a better version...yes.
Hmm...could it be they are better skilled than the others....yes.

If it was the gun that was OP, then you would not see the top level players consistently placing high on the leader boards. But as far as Xbox goes (speaking from first hand experience) the top level players still are on top no matter how many people use infectors or big boomers or whatever gun you want to cry about being OP.

[Woodlouse]

those bunny hoppers really irritate me.

[Upinya Slayin]

I still use my big boomer. People complain just as much about the big boomer as they do the infector. The bottom line, if there is a gun in the game that kills people A LOT, people will whine and cry. There is not really much more to say, but learn to adapt and overcome. I am all for certain weapons to get BUFFs in the game, but as for nerfing weapons (ALL WEAPONS), it hurts and cripples a game. It also drives people away. Buffing weapons will make people happy and will also keep others content.

the problem is you can't buff a weapon enough to compensate to make it match a weapon that requires no aim. the biggest issue with the infector is the giant half dollar sized reticle. if they matched it to a smg or lmg siz and made it a crossheair it would be instantly balanced. cause you'd have to aim. nerfing wepaons keeps it fair. sure some noobs might quit cause they lost their easy kill weapon but good players will come back where teh can have fun and you get more quality players. i'd say 99% of games i play its either noobs who suck and get steamrolled or infector campers that drag the game out and they still lose and just make it not fun. very rarely do i come across a group of players, not sticking together, not using infectors, that actually pose a challenge. and the reason is the infectors. its unbalanced

[Upinya Slayin]

One last thing...I know that more than half of the people on the forums who complain about infectors or detonators or any other gun for that matter, USE IT THEMSELVES...and have the nerve to sit on their computer whinning about it...talk about the biggest hypocrite. Most of these guys who end up using them still can not kill the top level guys. If the gun is "SOOOO OVER POWERED", why then do the top level players not die by their own weapons?

Hmm....let's think about this....could it be they have a better version...yes.
Hmm...could it be they are better skilled than the others....yes.

If it was the gun that was OP, then you would not see the top level players consistently placing high on the leader boards. But as far as Xbox goes (speaking from first hand experience) the top level players still are on top no matter how many people use infectors or big boomers or whatever gun you want to cry about being OP.

i choose not to use an immnuizer ever. i used to use it on FY and stopped. i never used it in TDM cause it is no fun. takes no skill. i used to use a big boomer and shotgun (either GF or VOT fragger or heavy scattegun before nerf) then i stopped with the shotgun and went with a BMG, then i dropped the boomer and went SMG, then i dropped cloak and went blur. still do very well in general and have more fun. but its not fun when you leave teh building and 6 people are in the back on the ridge camping with infectors. now instead of being able to enjoy battle i have to retreat into the building heal with the BMG, then go all the way around the map and flank the 6 guys and take as many as i can before the bugs kill me. its just slow and boring

[X64]

Here's my cool suggestion to the devs:

Separate skill and perk tree for PvP (not overlapping with PvE)
Reduced gravity over PVP battlegrounds), jump cooldown like CS 1.5 instead of 1.3
hold shift to sprint (not toggle), stamina depletes and replenishes over time.

[Steppdaddy]

Defending Slaya on this one.

Yeah shotguns are great up close...but lose all effectiveness at about 1/3rd of the immunizers range.

And like an above poster said, the infections completely make the weapons that require aiming (pistols,smgs sorta, lmgs, Ars, and snipers) completely useless.

Oh but the immunizer isn't even the worst one. Canker can half a clip nearly anyone. Even if you kill the person, you better be flexible enough to kiss your sorry dot'ed *** goodbye.

Canker take to long to kill? That's where an outbreaker with a burst mod comes in. Literally obliterates any and everything in like two seconds flat.

Don't defend a gun that has a homing effect while jumping and firing at the hip while rendering the opponents vision.

No other gun can accomplish this.

[X64]

The immunizer is actually weak compared to other infectors, it just has a longer range. It's an alien automatic sniper rifle with 20 rounds. I think it's pretty much ok.